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The Hitler obsession

June 6, 2013

Why is our culture so obsessed with Hitler? The liberals called Bush Hitler every other day, and now the conservatives have taken a cue from them and call Obama Hitler....

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Tedeaux

Jun-06-13 4:09 AM

"Those who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana, 1963.

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 6:37 AM

"Why is our culture so obsessed with Hitler? The liberals called Bush Hitler every other day, and now the conservatives have taken a cue from them and call Obama Hitler. To make things worse, people are even seeing Hitler in JC Penney teapots. Nothing good can come from bringing up Hitler all the time." - Michael Shulski

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"conservatives" surely have put significant-effort into resurrecting the (related) concepts of "producers of all wealth" (i.e. Master Race?) & "useless parasites" (i.e. the Working Class).

See:

War on the Weak - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

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Premier

Jun-06-13 7:07 AM

Psst... Sham, most conservitives are the ...........working class.

Don't tell anyone okay. Wink,wink.

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CMReeder

Jun-06-13 7:16 AM

The right has no imagination.

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Josh84

Jun-06-13 7:25 AM

MrShaman Jun-06-13 6:37 AM****"War on the Weak - Newsweek and The Daily Beast"

This must be the "Axis of Ignorance" you always speak of.

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CHayes

Jun-06-13 7:48 AM

"The liberals called Bush Hitler every other day"

I don't recall that happening. That may mean I have selective memory, as it's a big country, and it could have happened a couple times, but the fact nobody can ever provide examples of it implies the integrity of my memory.

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gavinf56

Jun-06-13 7:50 AM

Chris, just Google Bush=Hitler. You should get more than enough examples to help refresh your memory.

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gavinf56

Jun-06-13 7:54 AM

Even that tax exempt organization Move On dot Org ran an ad comparing Bush to Hitler in 2004.

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CHayes

Jun-06-13 8:21 AM

"Chris, just Google Bush=Hitler. You should get more than enough examples to help refresh your memory."

I just did, and found a couple of examples to be sure, but most of what comes up relates to the criticism that President Bush's grandfather was a banker that helped fund Hitler. I don't really think that's the same thing. You may disagree.

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CMReeder

Jun-06-13 8:42 AM

See Chris, 'you did it we can too' mentality that explains their rationale for doing something. They are "proud" that they do it better than the left. The comparison to Hitler was not limited to Bush and Obama. Of course this is lost on the right.

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 8:42 AM

"Psst... Sham, most conservitives are the ...........working class.

Don't tell anyone okay. Wink,wink." - Premier

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I guess you're safe, now. Ayn Rand is still dead.

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 8:46 AM

"The right has no imagination." - CMReeder

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Heyyyyyyyy...it's a "brave, new World"!!

See:

Gordon Gekko - "I create nothing, I own." (YouTube)

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spike2

Jun-06-13 9:00 AM

I believe the same situation occurred with Napoleon and others. How many remember hearing so and so "has a Napoleon complex?

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 9:09 AM

MrShaman Jun-06-13 6:37 AM****"War on the Weak - Newsweek and The Daily Beast"

This must be the "Axis of Ignorance" you always speak of." - Josh84

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Have some (local) Elementary school-kid show you how to copy-and-paste...especially if you're some big Paul Ryan fan. The article is about his "baptism" into Final Solutions.

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 9:16 AM

"The liberals called Bush Hitler every other day" - Michael Shulski

"I don't recall that happening." - CHayes

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Things don't (normally) HAVE-to-have -happened, to make the headlines at the "Axis".

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See:

NewsHounds

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 9:19 AM

"Even that tax exempt organization Move On dot Org ran an ad comparing Bush to Hitler in 2004." - gavinf56

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...And...lemme guess...once you have access to a computer, you'll be able to find it...right??

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gavinf56

Jun-06-13 9:23 AM

You Tube it Skippy. I am pretty confident you can handle that.

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 9:26 AM

"Chris, just Google Bush=Hitler. You should get more than enough examples to help refresh your memory." - gavinf56

I just did, and found a couple of examples to be sure, but most of what comes up relates to the criticism that President Bush's grandfather was a banker that helped fund Hitler." - CHayes

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Ah, yes...the Bu$h Clan's "famous"-hits!!!

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See:

Bush Family Values Photo Album

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MrShaman

Jun-06-13 9:35 AM

"I believe the same situation occurred with Napoleon and others. How many remember hearing so and so "has a Napoleon complex?" - spike2

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Yeah....I remember that....from 2003. The BIG difference, is...Napoleon was no Chickenhawk.

See:

National ID Series - The Worried Shrimp

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enigma

Jun-06-13 9:55 AM

It is not a Hitler obsession. It is just that Hitler is the standard for evil government leader. The comparisons are overused, but any leader will have something in common with Hitler so it's just too easy to pass up. Rather than debating the merits of policy, just invoke the Hitler legacy. Now the teapot thing, might come from an obsession. That was just stupid.

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JohnZook

Jun-06-13 10:49 AM

First we have to get through the Wiemar Republic, (out of control inflation) then I'd rather think "1984" is the better comparison. Just look at the headline on Drudge.

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eriklatranyi

Jun-06-13 11:02 AM

Now President Obama has been caught with massive amounts of information on US Citizens it demanded from Verizon Wireless.

Bush never went this far.

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CMReeder

Jun-06-13 11:36 AM

The right is okay with comparing people to Hitler.

Moving on!

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spike2

Jun-06-13 12:16 PM

Erik - the Patriot Act which was actually an attempt to weed out non-patriots was the beginning of intrusion in private lives. My guess is certain numbers are targeted. These numbers would lead to other numbers. If you are not a suspect or are not calling any questionable folks your number probably sweeps right through a computer program. This is an issue as cyberspace, cell phones, etc. have great potential for terrorists and recruiting. Life was simple in the days of wall phones and mail. Unfortunately those days are gone. The question is how much personal material are we willing to have accessed in the interest of security. Let's all through out some ideas. Applying to a court for a wiretap is too long of a procedure given availability and access of the tech items that are now commonplace.

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CHayes

Jun-06-13 1:37 PM

"Now President Obama has been caught with massive amounts of information on US Citizens it demanded from Verizon Wireless.

Bush never went this far."

That's ridiculous erik. First, President Obama didn't ask for this data, the FBI did. Second, the request was granted by court order via a judge that was a Reagan appointee. Last, this isn't warrantless wiretapping like what happened under president Bush. The court order is for metadata on calls, NOT call contant.

Still terrible, but not even in the same ballpark as what President Bush did.

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