Sign In | Create an Account | Welcome, . My Account | Logout | Subscribe | Submit News | Newspaper contacts | All Access E-Edition | Home RSS
 
 
 

It takes both

June 7, 2013

Montgomery students can play games on their iPads but they can't have a Track and Field Day....

« Back to Article

 
 
sort: oldest | newest

Comments

(61)

rmiller

Jun-08-13 11:02 PM

Mike,

"I turned 51 this year and I remember all that but, what is a 'slide rule'? Never heard of one of those. "

Too funny, you're a babe in the woods...now I know why you don't know what a slide rule is, too young! :)

1 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

rmiller

Jun-08-13 11:00 PM

"Yeah...I'll bet they don't even know how to saddle-up a horse, to GET to school, EITHER!!!"

Your flippancy is old, John. Your comment speaks directly to your progressive mindset. The LTR writer made a good point. I say, turn off the iPod's!

3 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

USABorn

Jun-08-13 9:50 AM

and CEATO. I loved Dr. Werner Von Braun (in the next office). Met major military people and some military members of royalty from all over the world.

Had an opportunity to MEET, shake hands with, and speak to Presidents Eisenhower, Johnson and Kennedy and served on a welcoming committee for Lady Bird.

I have 3 children who all went to college, work and pay taxes, and live in 3 states. My daughter alone employs 35 people.

And now Francine, what makes you so d--- great that you can look down your nose at people from this area? MANY who have gone on to great jobs providing benefits for the many.

Just because I chose to return "home" to finish my life where I began it, doesn't make me....."why you and the others still live there" (like ignorant bumpkins Francine)?

6 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

USABorn

Jun-08-13 9:37 AM

Francine - 10:18 AM

"No USABorn, they represent why the Williamsport area will always be the Williamsport area, backward, and why you and the others still live there"

Francine: First of all I do not live IN WMSPT, but NEAR it in H'ville.

I have lived in several states and worked for the U.S.Army, NATO, CINTO

4 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

USABorn

Jun-08-13 9:37 AM

Francine - 10:18 AM

"No USABorn, they represent why the Williamsport area will always be the Williamsport area, backward, and why you and the others still live there"

Francine: First of all I do not live IN WMSPT, but NEAR it in H'ville.

I have lived in several states and worked for the U.S.Army, NATO, CINTO

5 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

MrShaman

Jun-08-13 6:14 AM

"LOL, remember typing class before they had elec. typewriters? Kids these days can't do math in thier head, many don't know thier mult. table, can't read a ruler or an analog clock, don't know how many days each month has, if they even know all the months.All basic stuff we HAD to learn." - Tgrammiex4

*

Yeah...I'll bet they don't even know how to saddle-up a horse, to GET to school, EITHER!!!

0 Agrees | 7 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

MrShaman

Jun-08-13 6:07 AM

"I turned 51 this year and I remember all that but, what is a 'slide rule'? Never heard of one of those." - mikekerstetter

*

Whew!! You're only 51...and, don't know how to use Google??!!!!

1 Agrees | 8 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

GoBB62

Jun-07-13 6:38 PM

"It's pathetic that one person could have this much anger and self righteousness. I will spare you "war stories" because the likes of you could never understand the sacrifice it takes..." - GysgtUSMC

*

"I MEANT the GENERIC-version of "war stories"; i.e. when people get to belaboring everyone with stories about "hard-times" in their Life!! Yes....carrying-on about "having to train these tech wavy kids coming into the Corps " qualifies." - sham

See:

Sham's got an excuse for everything.

8 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-07-13 6:24 PM

"such negativity. texas blames teachers,"---Radioactive

++

??Huh?? Like where did you get that?

Through various times in my children's attendance at school over the last 25+ years they had days where there was no instruction but school was in session so they could get the government subsidy/payment. The school district did that and the teachers just did as they were told since the curriculum had been completed.

5 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Tgrammiex4

Jun-07-13 6:20 PM

LOL, remember typing class before they had elec. typewriters? Kids these days can't do math in thier head, many don't know thier mult. table, can't read a ruler or an analog clock, don't know how many days each month has, if they even know all the months.All basic stuff we HAD to learn. I can't help my grands with thier math either, it seems so convoluted the way they do it now.

4 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

philunderwood

Jun-07-13 6:18 PM

Mike, my kids are older than you and when they were being taught what was then called “new math” I thought they were finally being taught how math actually works. Back in my days math, for the most part, was strictly taught by rote. You had to learn how to do it, but not why. I do think that teachers and parents weren’t able to understand new math and consequently it was poorly taught. I have no idea how math is taught today.

A slide rule was what we used to do math before we had calculators and computers. About 20 years ago I came across my old slide rule and couldn’t remember how to use it.

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

mikekerstetter

Jun-07-13 6:16 PM

Todd, it must have been Little Red. I never had him for a teacher. Yep, that math is the same thing that I couldn't help my boy with. It's foreign to me.

3 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Tgrammiex4

Jun-07-13 6:12 PM

Slide rules were used for calculus

1 Agrees | 1 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

twinder

Jun-07-13 6:01 PM

Geez Mike, I remember being shown, and using slide rules by Mr. Sherman. To Phil, I can hardly help my kids with math anymore. I tried to help them with long division and multiplication a few years ago and when I put pencil to paper, the kids looked at me as if I were playing a joke on them. They are taught something called "Ladders" or "Lattice" maybe to figure simple math problems. I couldn't get the answer their way and they couldn't understand how I was getting my answers doing it the long way. The calculator showed us the answer was correct. But it couldn't explain either way of getting the answer.

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

mikekerstetter

Jun-07-13 5:58 PM

philunderwood-"I do however; believe that a thorough understanding of how math works should also be taught."

Phil, I'm decent at math but I'll tell you something, I can't do math this new way they are teaching it in school. I could help my daughter when she was learning but they switched in the 3 years between her and our son and I was lost. I can't even explain to you how they were doing it.

3 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

twinder

Jun-07-13 5:56 PM

CitizenQ, this was the first, or trial, year for the Ipads at MAHS. I fully support them. If you have people involved at MAHS then you should also know that all of them were returned on Thursday. I'm quite certain that the district's IT personnel will be going through them to see the extent of activity with each and looking for things that were forbidden. Every parent and student had to sign papers when they received the Ipads. It is my hope that if there are objectionable items found on the Ipads, then the district will take the appropriate actions on those students. As for kids sneaking games during class times...they are only hurting themselves, and learning a valuable lesson for their future. If they shirk their responsibilities, they will only be behind their peers at graduation time.

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

mikekerstetter

Jun-07-13 5:55 PM

Tgrammiex4-"Remember the days when PE was required daily and if you got caught with a calculator you got in trouble? Does anyone use slide rules anymore? Remember when school food was actually made from scratch and it was good? Principals had paddles and if you got in trouble your parents knew before you got home and you got it worse there.Amazing we all lived."

I turned 51 this year and I remember all that but, what is a 'slide rule'? Never heard of one of those.

3 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

philunderwood

Jun-07-13 5:20 PM

As one who used a lot of math during the development of calculators and computers, I’ve come to the conclusion that both are great and should be taught and used in school. I do however; believe that a thorough understanding of how math works should also be taught. I’d like to hear what some of our younger educators have to say about that.

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Tgrammiex4

Jun-07-13 5:01 PM

Remember the days when PE was required daily and if you got caught with a calculator you got in trouble? Does anyone use slide rules anymore? Remember when school food was actually made from scratch and it was good? Principals had paddles and if you got in trouble your parents knew before you got home and you got it worse there.Amazing we all lived.

5 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

CitizenQ

Jun-07-13 4:27 PM

Todd, I have friends with kids and also have great-grandchildren in MAHS and I have seen the benefits of the ipads and am all for them. But I do believe they need better monitoring and I don't believe they should be playing games during class time as I've been told by the children themselves that they sneak and do. And you are probably correct that FB is blocked during the day. The postings and pictures I've seen (posted during class time) may be from their personal phones (which used to be banned during class but now seem to be allowed). I know that the ipads have been used to take and post some suggestive and questionable pictures (probably after school) as I have seen the ipad as part of the picture when taken in the mirror. Again, they are an excellent idea for school work and research, etc. But there should be some rules applied and some monitoring by parents at home. And I stand by the fact that these kids need to exercise their bodies as well as their minds.

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Tgrammiex4

Jun-07-13 2:26 PM

enoughalready, yup, it fits,LOL

2 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

USABorn

Jun-07-13 1:51 PM

MrShaman - 12:40 PM

"(Sorry. I can't recall if that was a recent FAUX Noise, or Porky Limbaugh, talking-point.)"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

5 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

MrShaman

Jun-07-13 1:47 PM

"The Ipads have been a tremendous success at MAHS and they are expanding them to younger students which will increase the cost savings to the district from numerous textbooks, papers supplies, etc." - twinder

*

...And, the long-term benefits can NEVER be overstated!!!!!

*

See:

Redefining Medicine With Apps and iPads

0 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

twinder

Jun-07-13 1:32 PM

As far as using the Ipads to play games on them... so what? Are you going to lie to us and say that you NEVER played any games in school? We played table hockey with three coins and football with a triangle shaped piece of folded paper at lunch and in study halls. If the students have free time, why can't they play a game on the Ipad?

1 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

philunderwood

Jun-07-13 1:32 PM

I wasn’t the kid that was picked first by any means, as sports weren’t my strong point. I never thought that was unfair, I simply adjusted by focusing on what I was good at. Trying to keep me from a damaged self-esteem would’ve done me more harm than good.

10 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Showing 25 of 61 comments Show More Comments
 
 

Post a Comment

You must first login before you can comment.

*Your email address:
*Password:
Remember my email address.
or
 
 

 

I am looking for:
in:
News, Blogs & Events Web