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Board prepares to vote on closing elementary

June 11, 2013

JERSEY SHORE — As the Jersey Shore Area School Board prepares to vote in less than a week on whether or not Nippenose Valley Elementary School will close, the administration again presented the......

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jeff33

Jun-17-13 1:56 PM

The Amish are waiting!

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SalladasburgDad

Jun-16-13 12:20 AM

Billtown61---I have no bow and arrow in your game

Do you know what that means? I pay taxes and work a lot of overtime. My children are grown, all products of a great JSASD education, are upstanding citizens, have advanced to their potential, and make Dad and Mom proud everyday.

Yes, I point my fingers in the shape of a steeple no less than 10 times a day and have watched blame, read blame, hear blame daily and quite frankly am tired of it. This filth has brought good people in my community to act of fools. Facts are facts and that is reality.

Interesting that you assign blame to me first and then yourself. Are you reading something more into my posts or have you a guilty conscience?

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andy33

Jun-15-13 9:39 PM

BILLTOWN.....I'm not up for a Dr. Phil moment when serious issues need addressed..I GATHER YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IDENTIFYING A PROBLEM...POINTING A FINGER AND PLACING BLAME...NO WONDER KIDS DON'T WANT TO OWN THEIR BEHAVIOR and even some adults !!!!!

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Billtown61

Jun-15-13 8:11 PM

You, for one and me, too. I know it's difficult, but instead of continually pointing fingers and looking to assess blame, maybe we need to look inward as well.

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SalladasburgDad

Jun-15-13 4:39 PM

Politics is dirty and so are personal agendas-- that my dear lady is why the educational system in America is a complete dysfunctional mess. Pile on the garbage to stink up, cloud over, and divert the attention-- "common sense", "Christians", "defaming", "judgemental", "bullying", "liars" and "charter schools" do these apply?

Why isn't education top priority in the JSASD? Again, who isn't doing their job

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Billtown61

Jun-15-13 10:09 AM

Reading all of these judgmental, inflammatory, defaming comments, it is very apparent where the real dysfunction is. Anybody here care about what the plan is to improve student learning? I know working TOGETHER to address that isn't nearly as sexy as throwing stones, but last time I checked, that's the fundamental purpose of school. Perhaps if we spent half as much time making sure ALL of our students are learning as we do with this other garbage, we might just better serve our kids.

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andy33

Jun-15-13 8:22 AM

Seems like this district is a 'round robin' of hidden secrets...DUI's...teachers, administrators and Super alike! Hush...hush...Wonder why this behavior is tolerated...such a hot potato...

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andy33

Jun-15-13 8:17 AM

Barking...I heard the same thing about J.L...let's just wait to see if that happens. True...the Super is a joke..he NEEDS to GO!!!!!...If he did his job...Bierly WOULD already be gone..no district would ever tolerate the interference of a UNION leader in the management of a district...let alone interfering in the election of board members. Wonder what she has on him? Wonder why the valley kids got their way after the 'infamous valley drinking party'? This man is a disgrace to the position!!!!!...Let's see if this board shows him the door!

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andy33

Jun-14-13 4:10 PM

Hey there Barking...seems like you might have some valuable info..care to share it?

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ValleyDad987

Jun-14-13 11:41 AM

Likewise Laughin.... Andy.....the saga continues...

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LaughIn

Jun-14-13 9:35 AM

Nice to see you are an active participant ValleyDad. Good luck with your train wreck

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andy33

Jun-14-13 9:25 AM

ValleyDad987...wait for the next installment...

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ValleyDad987

Jun-14-13 8:37 AM

Some of you act as though all of the parents whose children attend Nippenose are part of the "evil conspiracy"...According to a few people who post here, your "theory" is a segment of the base is calling the shots for the school? That is just absurd! It is clearly evident that the train to stop a school closure has wrecked. It is probably a good thing that some new faces will be sitting behind the table come January. Hopefully it will bring some closure to an ugly time for our district. Some of your comments are just plain ridiculous! Everything that needs done will be completed by year end. PERIOD.

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andy33

Jun-14-13 3:19 AM

Time reveals all....wondering what theatrics are in the planning stages for the next board meeting! I hear some people will really stop at nothing to intimidate board members prior to the vote to close Nip.....Time reveals ALL....

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Luey22

Jun-13-13 10:59 PM

Why did the Nippenose Valley not support Harry Brungard their dedicated and compliant representative? ("You people think you have all the answers.") Why don't you listen to your representative? Was he to transparent?

I find little transparency in false political advertisements that are signed "The Concerned Citizens Group, paid for by Merrill Sweitzer." (not many know your relationships, jobs, how you prey) I rather enjoy apparent political ads for David Hines with the same exact words that randomly come out of Bert Francis and Raye Bierly's mouths at meetings. And the best recorded transparency took place at the school closure hearing when the "concerned citizens" all took their turns reading prepared statements. I would believe that a military officer defending his troop would be able to think fast on his feet and lead without delay? As for Adrienne Stahl, it is painfully clear she is a bully and user. You people are so obvious (victims supporting

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SalladasburgDad

Jun-13-13 9:34 PM

I am glad I checked back, nice to meet you ValleyDad-

Once things become very transparent in the next few weeks, there might be some Indians who may wish to turn their backs on the Chiefs. When you are told to use any means necessary (with complete disregard for innocent victims) to accomplish a goal, some Indians might like to check the law more carefully. Clear examples of malice are traceable on internet forums, e-mails, videos and such.

As for the union President- who comprised your questions on behalf of the teachers presented to the board in January? I am glad that you made note of that on a public forum with Helms. ValleyDad is right, maybe all union members should be consulted. Good teachers and all students should not be brought into this Andy33.

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LaughIn

Jun-13-13 8:50 PM

ValleyDad987, March 14, 2013 school closure hearing will answer your questions. However, I watched the June 10, 2013 meeting from home and that review was much more informative. The Administration Building seems more of a benefit, I wonder why the chief called for a sale? What programs will be cut? I must have missed that part. Anyways, I was paid well for 40+ years to educate and studied human behavior as a benefit; unfortunately the students are not the Governments priority or that of the chief.

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ValleyDad987

Jun-13-13 1:55 PM

Not fully understanding your post LaughIn. Father time will ultimately be the judge whether consolidation is the proper path to take. I am not convinced this is the most viable solution. I do believe that if the Board sat down with the union (as a whole and not the chiefs), there could have been some concessions made to continue programs as well as keep schools open.

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LaughIn

Jun-13-13 12:43 PM

Salladasburg and Valley Dads obviously learned that respect is a two way street. Everyone should be concerned about the children's education and dismiss the apparent "pi××ing" showdown from a select few. Some women didn't meet the 'Board of Education' consistently enough as children. For officers of the court and employees of the district to start an all out WAR and turn that 'Board of Education' into villains is sheer nonsense. When all else fails, lie. I do NOT want my Grandchildren to learn this from adults who should already know the difference between right and wrong.

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ValleyDad987

Jun-13-13 8:52 AM

"Yes...send all those littl' darlings from the Valley to Sugar Valley Charter...let them deal with Steinbacher & Stahl and all the other zealous parents" Andy.....not zealous, rather concerned.

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ValleyDad987

Jun-13-13 8:47 AM

You people think you have all the answers. I take offense when you drag the students into the discussion. Now one can sway me that it is better for young children to ride on a bus for twelve miles to go to school. I guess I am selfish that I want to keep Nippenose open, but when my children came home from school the last day and cried that was their last day there, it bothers me. As far as opening a charter school, that is just nonsense talk. The lady who is sending out the flyers has NO CLUE what is involved. You need a place to house children, you need to hire educators-that takes a lot of money. In the end, it only hurts the district at large aka...the taxpayers. I will guarantee you this is bull!

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SalladasburgDad

Jun-11-13 9:32 PM

"Parents need to stop playing this pi**ing match and get real"--Ladydawg4

I not only agree with this sentence, but, would hope that in the future community members in the JS area would stop stereotyping each other by place of residence. I doubt I will live long enough to see that day, but, there is always wishful thinking.

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andy33

Jun-11-13 9:02 PM

Ladydawg...stupid...ALL these questions have ALREADY been answered. You must be another one suffering from a recent illness going through the valley...confused, can't remember...I forgot....STAHL HAS THAT TOO.....

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ladydawg4

Jun-11-13 8:50 PM

I was one of the lucky ones to grow up in the Valley and attend Nippenose. Unfortunately, I don't think there is any question that Nippenose will be closing. The parents of "Valley" kids need to face reality and start asking questions regarding their students move to JSE. Before they decide the fate of Nippenose, I believe the school board needs to answer some serious questions... How will you transport all the students to JSE? I'd hope they wouldn't put a kindergartner on a bus with a senior. What about teacher:student ratio? How will they protect students while construction is going on? Will they update the older JSE before moving new students in? Parents need to stop playing this p***ing match and get real.

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iaxudis

Jun-11-13 8:23 PM

Interesting reading about another attempt by Mr. Francis to "misunderstand" and then misrepresent the debt of the school. I spoke to someone who was at the meeting monday night and the irony is that after asking a string of questions about the debt, and being told that the topic was being presented in the agenda, Mr. Francis left BEFORE the debt presentation. Was he really that interested in hearing the answers to his questions about debt? I guess not!

Regarding Ms. Lorson's comments. Does she REALLY expect the school board to willingly help her and her 133 friends to open a charter school in the soon to be former Nippenose school? It is rather simple to place restrictive use covenants on the building. The existing charter school option is in Sugar Valley, which ranks in the bottom of all PA schools, 1191 of 1606 elementary, 642 of 676 high schools and 819 of 848 middle schools. Maybe your precious children will benefit from a small rural school that you all claim to suppo

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