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June 12, 2013

Last week, Montoursville graduated and my grandson was not allowed to walk with his class because he is homeschooled....

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Tedeaux

Jun-12-13 4:50 AM

Be glad Nancy that your grandkids don't have to go through life telling people that they were the product of the poor public education system that we have today!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-12-13 6:21 AM

Nancy, like you we are all proud of the achievement of your grandson and wish him the best in life and the future aspirations that he pursues.

Dear God, I ask that you pour out abundant blessings on this young man and use him in mighty ways to honor and glorify you.

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MrShaman

Jun-12-13 6:57 AM

"Be glad Nancy that your grandkids don't have to go through life telling people that they were the product of the poor public education system that we have today!" - Tedeaux

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...Where, more-often-than-not, competitive-$port$ are Priority 1.

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CMReeder

Jun-12-13 7:05 AM

I have had with the people who home school.

All they want to do is pick and chose what parts of public school system they want their child exposed to.

Your home schooled child did not participate with children who are public educated. You took them out of the system. If I had it my way your child would not be allowed to particpate in the extracurricular activities of school.

If you want your child out of the public school system then fine with me. Your child then stay sout of all aaspects of public education system and that includes all of the extracurricular activities.

You can do it better than the public school system then fine throw your own graduation.

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CMReeder

Jun-12-13 7:27 AM

Schools do have special needs programs.

I'm sorry I am not being mean. You opted your child out of the school system. The school does not owe your child a dipolma and a graduation. Participating in school sports only does not give your child a school graduation. Your child did not work with his/her peers, he/she worked alone and apart from them.

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rick424

Jun-12-13 7:43 AM

Two of my three children were home schooled. I did not expect anything from the district nor should you.

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slickthedryfly

Jun-12-13 7:56 AM

Only snobs homeschol there kids, they afraid there little johnny or Susie will git picked on.I gradueated from Jersey Shoe, and I do fine.

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andy33

Jun-12-13 8:04 AM

Oh good grief people...get a grip! If you pay taxes, have a child in the district you are entitled to participate in school activities. Homeschooling is just an option that some parents opt to use to educate their child. I have found home-schooled children to be above average...so what's the big deal!!!!

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Dannygirl

Jun-12-13 8:04 AM

Your grandson did not recieve an high school diploma from Montoursville so why should he walk with the sutdents who did recieve a diploma from Montoursville. This was a Montoursville High School graduation that celebrated the graduation of Montoursville High School students. I would see the need for him to walk with the Montoursville graduation class if he recieved a diploma from Montoursville but how can the school district allow him to walk with a class and get a diploma from a school he did not actually graduate from. It would be the same as taking online college classes from an out of state university and then expecting the local university to allow you to walk with their graduating class. Whatever educational entity issued his High School Diploma is the one responsible for the graduation not the school that he did not in fact acutally graduate from.

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CHayes

Jun-12-13 8:27 AM

"The school should be ashamed to deny him the right to walk with the class and his friends. Seems to me like the school discriminates against homeschooled kids."

The kid didn't graduate from the school. He's not getting a diploma from there. Why should he be allowed to participate in graduation ceremonies?

If you wanted the kid to be able to go to graduation, prom, etc. maybe you should have sent him to school, instead of trying to DIY his education. Unless you hold a Bachelors, Masters, or PhD in education, math, biology, physics, chemistry, English, computer science, and history, you aren't really qualified IMO to teach a child what he needs to know. Montoursville High School is one of the best schools in the entire state, and by making the choices you've made, you've educationally thrown your child under the bus. He will be paying the price for the choices you've made for his entire life.

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CHayes

Jun-12-13 8:29 AM

I have an idea. Maybe the letter writer should have a graduation ceremony at her house, and she can make diplomas for all the 2013 MHS grads, and have another ceremony there.

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DavidBross

Jun-12-13 8:32 AM

Two thoughts: First, unless there is some legal prohibition, the district should have allowed the boy in question to walk at graduation. Second, the author makes a big deal about the importance of the graduation ceremony. I hope she realizes that such ceremonies only exist because most kids go to public school?

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nobud74

Jun-12-13 8:44 AM

Only snobs homeschol there kids, they afraid there little johnny or Susie will git picked on.I gradueated from Jersey Shoe, and I do fine. --slick

Yes, we can tell you excelled in school.

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nobud74

Jun-12-13 8:47 AM

I agree, radioactive, there is likely more to the story.

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rmiller

Jun-12-13 8:49 AM

My son is now 24, not that far away from "ceremonial graduation." He didn't "walk" the aisle, He was home schooled the last six years of school. He seems to be unaffected emotionally, not having "walked."

I do understand the frustration of this grandparent, however. For those of us who did graduate and "walk" we do have the memory...some of us further removed from the ceremony than others. Where this LTR becomes problematic for me is the projection of "acts of murder sprees" seemingly being justified because one couldn't walk graduation. I don't know for certain, but I would speculate that the young people who have committed such atrocities did so for a host of other reasons, the least being denied a graduation walk.

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rmiller

Jun-12-13 8:56 AM

Danny,

You are unaware that home schooled children still have "rights" within the district they live, specifically the school district? To assume that this student had no rights to a Montoursville diploma is based on mis-information. He played for the school in sports activities as well as attended certain classes in the school. Your assumption and assertion he has no rights is speculation.

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CHayes

Jun-12-13 8:59 AM

"First, unless there is some legal prohibition, the district should have allowed the boy in question to walk at graduation."

I disagree. What possible justification would there be for that? He didn't attend school there. I'm sure there are kids that go to MHS that have friends that go to WHS. Should they also be allowed to participate in the graduation ceremonies at WHS?

If they think MHS is such a terrible place that they would deny their child the educational opportunities offered to students there, why would they even want their child to participate in their ceremonies.

It strikes me that someone doesn't want to take responsibility for the choices they made.

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CHayes

Jun-12-13 9:01 AM

"To assume that this student had no rights to a Montoursville diploma is based on mis-information."

BS Relene. Talk about a handout. Why does someone have a right to a diploma from a school they didn't attend? That's ridiculous.

Take responsibility for your own bad choices.

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rmiller

Jun-12-13 9:03 AM

slick,

Hello...are you coming back to add to the host of liberal commentary?

I chose not to send my child to public education, once public INDOCTIRNATION began. Real education became secondary to entertainment and teacher philosophy, depending on the teacher. As for possible abuse? Perhaps you would address your comment to the parents in this country that have had a child physically and emotionally abused by "bullying" in the public school system?

For those of you who are quick to condemn, I have to wonder if this was a homosexual/racial/religious/or otherwise host of discriminated "groups" of people, would your commentary be the same?

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CHayes

Jun-12-13 9:04 AM

"He seems to be unaffected emotionally"

And what exactly are your qualifications to make a statement like that? You are the most emotionally unstable person that posts here.

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express or last night? Now you're a psychologist?

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enigma

Jun-12-13 9:04 AM

Why would a child graduate from a school they didn't go to? Better question, why would you want them to? The school was not good enough to educate your grandson, why is it suddenly good enough to graduate from? Graduation is for the awarding of diplomas and he is not getting a diploma from that school. Don't get me wrong, I agree that public schools aren't worth sending your children to, but I also don't believe that they need to honor your rather strange wish to have it appear that they did. By writing this letter, you've set the homeschooling movement back in the minds of many readers.

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rmiller

Jun-12-13 9:06 AM

Chuck,

As Francine has rightly asserted, you are making commentary that is borderline cruel and thoughtless. Your have no children and cannot add discourse to this particular conversation that has clear conviction, one way or the other.

Hayes, as per usual...you only see "rights" relegated to those groups I mentioned in my last post.

Grow up, both you and John!

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rmiller

Jun-12-13 9:11 AM

Enigma,

I have always respected your posts and will continue to do so, because your commentary is generally spot on. :)

In this respect, what is being dismissed is his willingness to offer his sports' desires and abilities to the school in question. I am not a sports enthusiast, but his diligence and willingness to participate in this school's achievements are relevant. Perhaps it is simply about the curriculum that most parents choose to withdraw their children from exposure?

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CHayes

Jun-12-13 9:15 AM

"Why would a child graduate from a school they didn't go to? Better question, why would you want them to?"

Bingo Enigma. The answer to your second question is that the very same people that feel they're qualified to provide a primary education to their children, don't have enough foresight to think about the end result.

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Tgrammiex4

Jun-12-13 9:28 AM

Does the school have a written policy on this? Surely this isn't the 1st time this has happened.What about cyberschool students? Aren't they linked to the school district? Do they get a graduation? Back in the 70's I DID put in my time at pub. school, Made Honor Roll, wasn't allowed at graduation. I was married & preg. School policy, i didn't question it. Picked up my diploma the following week.

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