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Residents want relief from unbearable odors

June 12, 2013

A group of Nippenose Township residents made it clear Tuesday night that they want relief from what they said are unbearable odors and unliveable conditions while animal waste is being spread in......

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Tedeaux

Jun-12-13 4:41 AM

I live in a similiar area where manure is used to fertilize the corn, wheat and soy bean fields and without going into too much detail, I can agree with these poor people in Loganton, the smell is horrid during the spring. But I also see that farmers have to dispose of by-products created in the process of growing the food that we all eat and enjoy. A two million gallon animal waste storage tank does sound excessive though. I make my living in the oil industry so I can empathize with the plight of these farmers. There aren't many folks that will stand up for these farmers until supper time and they sit down to a great meal of steak

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eriklatranyi

Jun-12-13 6:26 AM

Who was there first, the farm or the residents?

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MrShaman

Jun-12-13 6:28 AM

I "smell" a BU$INE$$ OPPORTUNITY!!!!!

See:

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MoonLighter

Jun-12-13 6:32 AM

These farms were here LONG before your houses .. This is part of country living .. if you don't like it you can always go back to your city living breathing your smog and pollution ... I will take "fresh country air" over that anyday!!!!

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Dannygirl

Jun-12-13 7:46 AM

If you don't like it leave. The farmers are doing a job most people in America refuse to do and they make very little off doing it. I have nothing but the most respect possible for our local farmers. I grew up in the country and have always found it very fustrating for city or town folk to move out to the country and expect it to be like the city/town they came from. No one is keeping you from making a living doing your job but then you want to try to prevent the farmers from doing his job. You wouldn't last 1 week doing the job of this farmer. You all need to stop whining about him doing his job and if you don't like the smell leave. That smell is the smell of good old country air and if you want food to eat it is a small price to pay. He is doing nothing wrong and DEP has approved it.

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paulsaotome

Jun-12-13 8:34 AM

As the great learned teacher Mr. Kimble said in Kindergarten Cop: "Stop whining!"

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Premier

Jun-12-13 8:44 AM

Hey people, I live about 500 yards from this farm. I'll invite any of you to come and inhale some of the most horrific stench you have ever experienced. I've worked on farms and this goes beyond what any resident should have to endure. This IS NOT A NORMAL FARMING OPERATION. This is not a normal farm smell. What they are spreading is waste bi-product from a slaughterhouse.

It's all about money and ruining the quality of life here in the township.

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Premier

Jun-12-13 8:49 AM

I'll go you one better, go to the farm, go down wind of the tank then come back here and post your pro farm comment as I know none of you know what this smells like.

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pinecr

Jun-12-13 9:07 AM

Premier, I totally agree with you...this is not manure being spread on the fields and manure never ruined water wells of the people living around the farm fields. And as for most of you who commented but have no idea what you are talking about, most of the comments in the newspaper came from people who have lived in this area for years and years, not people who moved in from the city, so lets get your facts straight or don't comment.

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MrShaman

Jun-12-13 9:46 AM

"It's all about money and ruining the quality of life here in the township." - Premier

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Despite what your (favorite) Clerics tell you....EVERYTHING is temporary....even the "smells" of Spring.

Gut it out.

Who knows? The way the title is thrown-around, you just MIGHT get an upgrade to "hero"-status, for your (present) "sacrifice" o' quality-of-Life!!

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LaughIn

Jun-12-13 9:57 AM

You are correct in your assessment Premier! There certainly is a big difference between slaughterhouse waste and manure. The unidentified man was county zoning officer David Hines.

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dagger23

Jun-12-13 1:05 PM

I like the comments "What was here first; the farm or the houses". Nothing wrong with farming, Im all for it, but this isnt right. I worked for 4 months in Antes Fort and the stench is unbearable. So before you make fun of the people who live there; take a short detour off of 44 and smell it for yourself. Guarantee you'll never want to move there.

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MrShaman

Jun-12-13 4:39 PM

"I worked for 4 months in Antes Fort and the stench is unbearable. So before you make fun of the people who live there; take a short detour off of 44 and smell it for yourself. Guarantee you'll never want to move there." - dagger23

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So....what's the (estimated) body-count, before the stench dissipates, this year?

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Premier

Jun-12-13 4:53 PM

Moonlighter: "I will take "fresh country air" over that anyday!!!!"

If I had a way to bottle some of this "fresh county air" I'd give you some to use as an air freshener at home. It would be a great way to keep those pesky in-laws away during the holidays.

We'll call it Summertime slaughterhouse Musk.

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jethrosmama

Jun-12-13 5:14 PM

This is part of the article in the newspaper today, if this were pipeliners you can bet the operation would be shut down. This IS NOT MANURE!!!!The Sun-Gazette subsequently sought records from DEP through a Right to Know request on April 10. Information such as the number of investigations, results of investigations and information on fines, warnings or corrective actions issued.

DEP invoked its right to review the request longer than the standard five business days - taking a full month - citing legal reasons and additional time necessary to provide the information.

The information provided shows there have been additional citizen complaints since late January. From the provided documents, complaints were on file as early as Oct. 20, 2011.

DEP documents also show that Solid Waste Management Act violations concerning "improper management of food processing waste" were recorded for both Bowes and Nicholas Meat

This is a biological byproduct from slaughtering cattle!

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jethrosmama

Jun-12-13 5:16 PM

That investigation revealed that the animal waste from farmlands collected in a drainage area and pipe under Nippenose Road and that the spreading took place within 100 feet of a stream. The investigation also showed that the waste was spread on fields that were not included in any nutrient management plan, which neither Bowes or Nicholas Meat Packing said they were aware.

The inspection report notes that waste was spread "without a permit since best management practices were not followed."

Several complaints were reported to DEP on April 27, according to the Right to Know documents, including one person who said he was having respiratory issues and having trouble breathing because of the stench. Another person reported that her well water was contaminated with surfactants and coliform bacteria from the spreading. Do the family members still think this is funny?

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Billtown101

Jun-12-13 8:06 PM

want relief, Move out of the country!! geesh.

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eriklatranyi

Jun-12-13 8:50 PM

Sorry. If the farm was there firs, the residents have no case.

I doubt the smell lasts for more than 24 hours.

This sounds like complaining for no purpose.

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billybob

Jun-12-13 8:58 PM

This is not blood and guts like they say. It is watered down manure and a little blood. Consider the alternatives if they spread liquid pig manure every day it will smell way worse and that is essentially unregulated. The wells in that area are historically contaminated by their own septic systems. If you don't like the country smell you may move.

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Premier

Jun-12-13 9:19 PM

Erik you do not live here, you do not have to smell this, your comment means NOTHING!

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Premier

Jun-12-13 9:26 PM

Billybob, you also don't know what you talking about. THIS IS NO PIG MANURE AND IT IS NOT COW MANURE WITH A "LITTLE BLOOD".

To say what you have Billybob means that you are related to or work for Bowes and your being paid for you comment.

THIS IS WASTE FROM A SLAUGHTERHOUSE!!!

When Snook's pig farm spread their manure in the township on the hottest day in the summer you heard not a word from the residents as this was a farm smell and part of country living.

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Premier

Jun-12-13 9:33 PM

Again before commenting on this you must come to the area affected and get a whiff of this gross smell, until then you have no idea what your talking about!!!!

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Premier

Jun-12-13 9:47 PM

Erik, do you have a copy of the township ordinance? Have you read it? There is a line that talks about "normal farm operations".

This is not that or even close to it, they tried spreading this in Sugar Valley where it originates but was shut down. I've done exclusive internet research on this process and have found them doing this nowhere else in the country. Stuff from a slaughterhouse that is not sent to a rendering plant are sent to wastewater treatment plants not spread on fields.

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billybob

Jun-13-13 7:47 AM

Premier for your information I can see this operation from the house I've lived in for 40+ years and I dislike Mr. Bowes for several reasons. However what you say is all lies the smell is not bad and better than any manure.

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dagger23

Jun-13-13 8:30 AM

Its pretty bad when the "Gut Wagon" passes you going the other way and you can smell it!

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