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Poor brainstorm

June 16, 2013

Well, the "Powers That Be" had this brainstorm of closing our post office processing facility and move things to Harrisburg....

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rick424

Jun-16-13 12:50 AM

This is what happens when you cut things. I guess you have to adapt.

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richardson

Jun-16-13 2:25 AM

My opinion is that the contents of a letter remains private. Such privacy is enforced by the Postal Inspection Service. Such privacy is unique. With a government intent on spying on its citizens paper mail serves only to frustrate these efforts. I suggest that the government, itself, is destroying the USPS so that we can only communicate electronically so they can listen.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 6:12 AM

I think complaints would better be directed to our representatives in Washington, where the cuts originated.

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Tedeaux

Jun-16-13 6:45 AM

Personally, I couldn't care less about timing of deliveries made by the US POSTAL SERVICE. If its that important, call Fedex or UPS. The private sector working class folks pay an arm and a leg in Federal taxes because of how inefficient departments like the postal servicd have become. Postage is the highest it has ever been because

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CMReeder

Jun-16-13 6:59 AM

This has been going on for years and Chris is correct it is our elected representatives who did this. Of course it should be noted this is what conservatives wanted all along for us.

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JerryfromRI

Jun-16-13 7:56 AM

I'd be fine with mail delivery twice per week.

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BillTriumph

Jun-16-13 8:37 AM

The Post Office runs the Post Office not "our elected officials". The Post Office burns $250mil DAILY in operating expenses. Where our "elected officials" would come into play here would be to bail out the Post Office with billions in taxpayer funding. Blame email, texting, social media, UPS, FedEx, on-line bill paying, and generous USPS benefits for the problem.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-16-13 8:51 AM

"It's darn near impossible for the government to screen physical mail to any meaningful extent."--Francine

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Ask the ricin lady, Shannon Richardson.

"A high-tech computer system that captures images of “every mail piece that is processed” by the United State Postal Service was critical in helping federal agents track the Texas woman arrested today for allegedly sending ricin-tainted letters to President Barack Obama and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg."

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eriklatranyi

Jun-16-13 8:52 AM

Yes, the post office must adapt to the realities of the day.

A business would adapt or go bankrupt.

Unfortunately, the Post Office cannot go bankrupt, as it is supported with taxpayer monies.

That is why it is imperative that the Post Office adapt as quickly as possible to the presence of e-mail, IM, etc.

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spike2

Jun-16-13 9:15 AM

Williamsport is not safe to deliver mail? I guess that would depend on where you live. A few areas may be "unsafe" but I think it's highly unlikely the mailman will be a target.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 11:58 AM

" Blame email, texting, social media, UPS, FedEx, on-line bill paying, and generous USPS benefits for the problem"

I noticed Bill you didn't mention that the Post Office is in the middle of pre paying SEVENTY FIVE YEARS of employee benefits as required by Congress, or the fact that if they weren't required to pre pay benefits for employees that literally aren't even born yet, that they would be in the black.

Hey, I wonder if Fed Ex and UPS are prepaying a 100 year's in benefits, because their services are considerably more expensive, and less reliable.

UPS once left a $1700 computer sitting on my front porch in the middle of town. The package was signature confirmation. Well, at least they didn't toss my box over a fence.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 12:01 PM

It's funny to see the people that act like they sleep under US Constitution bedding at night, attack one of the few federal agencies explicitly authorized by said Constitution.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 12:03 PM

And in case they're not familiar, you know, the US Constitution? It's all those words wrapped around the Second Amendment.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 12:08 PM

" Unfortunately, the Post Office cannot go bankrupt, as it is supported with taxpayer monies."

That is a blatantly false statement. The USPS has not been the recipient of tax dollars since the 80's. If anything, the govt is the recipient of USPS largess in the form of franking privileges.

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BillTriumph

Jun-16-13 12:31 PM

Junk mail sustains the USPS system. It is the ONLY revenue source that is growing. 80% of Post Offices are losing money based upon cost to revenue. The red herring of the Congress mandated "prepaid" retiree health benefits has some bearing ...but USPS suspended payment because they didn't have the cash anyway. In fact they lost $5Bil. on declining revenue alone. Does anyone believe that the $11Bil. default (so far) to the USPS employee future health benefits won't be "bailed out" by US taxpayers?

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 1:13 PM

" Does anyone believe that the $11Bil. default (so far) to the USPS employee future health benefits won't be "bailed out" by US taxpayers?"

Why would the govt need to step in and pay health benefits for workers that aren't born yet?

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enigma

Jun-16-13 1:18 PM

Someone should tell Sandy that the closing of the Williamsport facility has nothing to do with local mail delivery. Who knows why her postman was working so late, but it had nothing to do with what she is blaming it on.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 1:22 PM

" The red herring of the Congress mandated "prepaid" retiree health benefits has some bearing ...but USPS suspended payment because they didn't have the cash anyway. In fact they lost $5Bil."

And how much was the prepayment the were required to make last year? Why it was $5.5 BILLION Bill. Imagine that. Imagine having a business Bill, that unlike ANY other business in the US, is required to pay BILLIONS every year for healthcare for employees that aren't even born yet. How long would such a business stay in the black?

The "financial crisis" the USPS is in, is an entirely manufactured one. Manufactured just like the frequent claim that the USPS is funded by taxpayer money.

I'd like to ask Bill, are you employed by UPS or Fed Ex, or a tertiary company that supports them? If so, that might be something you want to disclose.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 1:25 PM

" Someone should tell Sandy that the closing of the Williamsport facility has nothing to do with local mail delivery."

Wrong. The facility that was closed was used to sort mail. Now the sorting is done at a third location, and the pre sorted mail is shipped in. So it does in fact effect local delivery.

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CaveFelem

Jun-16-13 2:15 PM

"Neither snow, nor rain, nor heat, nor gloom of night, stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds."

I'm sure it's inconvenient to have to work late on some days, but if the mail didn't get to the carriers until later in the day, did they have to put in more hours? It seems to me they'd still work the same amount of time, just later in the day.

Chayes is right. Closing our local facility has affected local mail timing. I send and receive Netflix DVD's. That hasn't changed, as they go back and forth to/from Harrisburg. What has changed is the timing and delivery of local mail. I belong to a club that has a monthly newsletter. Newsletters were mailed on a Friday, and some members didn't receive them until the following Thursday, and we're talking local zips less than 10 miles from the origin zip.

We will just have to adapt to the new normal.

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BillTriumph

Jun-16-13 2:20 PM

In 2012, USPS posted a $15.8Bil. loss not a $5Bil. loss. About $11Bil. of the loss was the default on payment of the future health benefits. I said USPS reported that $5Bil. of the loss was attributable to the decline in revenue.

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CHayes

Jun-16-13 2:24 PM

" I belong to a club that has a monthly newsletter. Newsletters were mailed on a Friday, and some members didn't receive them until the following Thursday, and we're talking local zips less than 10 miles from the origin zip."

And I just received a first class parcel yesterday that was shipped Fri afternoon from the Allentown area. I've also received first class parcels from NJ the next day. Usually takes 3-4 days for me to get a first class package from CA. So as you can see, the situation you describe is a little difficult to imagine.

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ScienceIsKing

Jun-16-13 2:40 PM

I'm guessing because everyone is doing everything online these days? Postal mail is a thing of the past and quite frankly, I forgot how to mail something. Today we have online bill payments, papers, and smartphone apps to get information. Wake up and stop complaining, this is our future!

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BillTriumph

Jun-16-13 3:19 PM

I think we owe it to our Postal Workers to do everything in our power to sustain this service no matter the cost. I for one have a strong conviction to want my mailbox filled with junk mail advertising, and since USPS discounts this bulk mail service I want desperately to have our Congress assure me that my taxes go towards continuing this well placed and productive subsidy. $25Mil. losses per day is such a small price to pay for all the offset benefits, and besides the USPS is only forced to lose money because our Congress is unfairly forcing them to despite the great job they are doing holding the line on costs.

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GysgtUSMC

Jun-16-13 3:31 PM

Regardless of how the post office has lost so much revenue, the fact of the matter is, it is another agency controlled by congress that is not self sustaining and losing billions. Congress instituted the requirement to pre-fund decades of benefits and eventually this blister is going to come to a head and someone is going to have to pay for it. It makes a person wonder how this same government is going to run healthcare for all of us when it can't even deliver mail without losing billions.

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