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2 films pit gas pros, cons on same night, in same town, block

June 16, 2013

It’s hard to imagine a time when the line between area pro- and anti-gas drilling folks will be drawn clearer than next Wednesday, when the films “Gasland Part II” and “Fracknation” will be shown at......

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stupdppl

Jun-16-13 6:42 AM

I can not wait to watch these films, they are interesting! Everyone should watch..

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Garben78

Jun-16-13 7:51 AM

Drill baby drill

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-16-13 7:56 AM

Francine,

I have not hit either the agree nor disagree button. In fact since I have not viewed the movie Fracknation yet, I won't even respond agree/disagree to whether it is a commercial for big oil. BTW, have you seen it? Is it accurate or not?

This I will say. I have met people at the church I grew up at in Pennsdale that have personally told me that they saw the presence of gas in fresh water when they were a kid growing up; yes they could light it on fire. This was somewhere out in the country, out in the hills way past Hughesville; I wish I would have gotten them to show me on a map. This was decades before the gas companies came to the area and started drilling. There are numerous other natural occurrences of gas in water.

The gas in water with Cabot at Dimock and Shell in Tioga were both repaired. Unknown circumstances contributed. There was unknown shallow gas in the one case and years old undocumented wells that provided a path in the other.

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eriklatranyi

Jun-16-13 8:37 AM

Francine, you should be less concerned with your "Agree" and "Disagree" than with the substance of the argument.

The anti-drilling side has engaged in lies in an effort to create hysteria.

If they had actual facts on their side, such tactics would be unnecessary.

Now, the anti-drilling crowd holds little credibility with the general public.

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BornHere

Jun-16-13 8:45 AM

Cabot has reached verbal agreements with 32 of the 36 Dimock households while continuing to negotiate with the remaining families.

Terms of the deals were sparse because residents and the company were bound to a clause that prevents them from discussing details. The families are awaiting their checks. Interesting.

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spike2

Jun-16-13 9:04 AM

Will be at Community Arts. Hope some of you are also attending. Genetti is an interesting choice since nearly fully occupied by gas workers. Think they will be mandated to attend?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-16-13 9:12 AM

"I will say this as an employer: I wish all of my employees had showed the same blind public loyalty"--Francine

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You are mistaken when you say blind public loyalty. I have usually backed any opinion with facts or other pertinent information. I have shown good and bad.

If as an employer, you want employees to have blind loyalty then you need to rethink what this shows about you as an owner or your business. I would hope that your employees use their brains and have high moral integrity.

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TheMoe

Jun-16-13 9:18 AM

Money wins!!!!!!!!

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BillTriumph

Jun-16-13 10:23 AM

Indeed. The Thinkpol and Minitrue over at Genetti will doubtless spike the viewing audience with Fracknation 'bellyfeel'ers' under the watchful eye of MSC (Marcellus Shale Coalition). *Warning: this is fictional irony*

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BornHere

Jun-16-13 10:47 AM

To the person who disagreed with me the information I posted can be found at, "Shale Gas Review August 16, 2012".

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eriklatranyi

Jun-16-13 12:33 PM

Francine said:

"...Gas exploration here is pretty much stopped?"

Which demonstrates your ignorance of the industry.

Oil and gas are commodities that are traded worldwide. When the price goes down, production slows. When prices rise, production increases.

Currently, as the price of NG is near $4, you can expect activity to increase.

Once the LNG terminals in Philadelphia and Baltimore are on-line, you can expect activity to increase.

Maybe you should study supply and demand?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-16-13 12:39 PM

"Where did I say I wanted blind loyalty?" --Francine 9:23AM

"I will say this as an employer: I wish all of my employees had showed the same blind public loyalty....." --Francine 8:44AM

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Maybe there is a slight difference in meaning between "wanted blind loyalty" and "showed the same blind loyalty" but they sound very similar to me. If you meant something different, maybe you can explain it. Actually you don't need to since all of this is getting off the topic at hand.

I hope that you enjoy whichever movie you elect to see. Maybe you can be like a jury and actually listen to evidence from both sides.

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steph570

Jun-16-13 2:50 PM

Now I know what hotel never to stay at when I come home to visit.

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Brew4U

Jun-16-13 3:54 PM

While Fox will be attending the Responsible Drilling Alliance's screening of "Gasland II" at 7 p.m. at the Community Arts Center, 220 W. Fourth St., next door, in the Genetti Hotel Grand Ballroom, "Fracknation," a response to "Gasland," will be presented by the Pennsylvania Chapter of the National Association of Royalty Owners.$$$Barons...How many of you that have posted and to all people who attend either presentation. Has anyone been to any of the surrounding mountain tops in a 50 mile radius of Williamsport? I have and if what I've seen on Bodine Mt. Road & Bull Run Road isn't a chopped up industrial gravel wasteland with grasses that never grew there before. I'm sure you could land any sized helicopter you want up there now. Take a ride and go see what's going on...You tell me.? KEEP IT WILD !!!

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gavinf56

Jun-16-13 7:05 PM

I will say, I find the NIMBY negative knee jerk reaction to anything even remotely positive to be incredibly humorous. Thanks for the chuckles.

Oh, and for the record, I do not work for the gas companies nor do I personally profit from them in any way. I just have a practical sense of our energy needs.

Now, go ahead and disagree away, I could use a few laughs tonight.

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BornHere

Jun-16-13 7:22 PM

Bobbie, thank you for your wonderful compliments, and you have a nice day!

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rick424

Jun-16-13 8:35 PM

Hey Gavin. I thought your parents profited or will profit from the industry. Or some relation not sure if it was you but I thought you said they would be drilling wells near the lycoming mall. I will have to find that post, wasn't too long ago. Finally got fast Internet. Drama fever in HD, awesome.

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gavinf56

Jun-16-13 8:57 PM

Yes, they are drilling on the hill behind my Dad's house with 2 other wells scheduled within 5 miles, but I am not sure if he will profit or not. His money is his. I have told him and my step mother to "spend it all and enjoy their lives". They don't owe us a kids anything.

Yea, Drama Fever streams much better with faster internet. DSL doesn't quite cut it.

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gavinf56

Jun-16-13 9:00 PM

"I have told him and my step mother to "spend it all and enjoy their lives". They don't owe us a kids anything."

...and with that comment I meant his retirement savings, not anything he may get from the gas wells.

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gavinf56

Jun-16-13 9:09 PM

..and I guess I should clarify even further by stating that they do not own any of the land where the wells are being drilled either.

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Judgeandjury

Jun-17-13 6:09 AM

Bobbie2, I wonder about you. Are you just a complete fool, or are you part of the parasitic and profiteering gas industry? I originally thought the first, but now I am not sure. And you have the nerve to criticize two of the most intelligent and forward looking people in the country in Josh Fox and Wendy Lee? Wow, that is some ego. How do you manage with it? I guess with all that room left over from where your intelligence should be it fits just fine. I want to address your concern or lack of ability to accept reality, like that the industry covering up all the damage they do with money and non-disclosures. Whether you want to admit it or not, it is crystal clear they do damage and they deny it by paying people for their silence. Is this a fact that you dispute?

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wwhickok

Jun-17-13 6:46 AM

Here's the only thing I have to say on this topic; If you think that gas drilling is 100% safe and not at all harmful to the environment you're really naive.

If you believe that it's not harmful to the economy, perhaps you should check the Williamsport, PA rent prices.

It's Cons, right now, significantly outweigh the Pros.

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BornHere

Jun-17-13 8:28 AM

The article that I quoted can also be found in the Times Tribune August 15, 2012. "Cabot, Dimock families near settlement on gas drilling contamination".

I was not twisting anything, this information is out there for all to see, it's if you choose to see it.

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Wardcitizen

Jun-17-13 9:23 AM

Just because they are not drilling on your land doesn't mean that you haven't signed a lease with the gas companies. They can drill horizontally for two miles.

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gavinf56

Jun-17-13 9:28 AM

Yes they can, thus resulting in the up tick in carbon based fuel exploration in the US.

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