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DRILLING FOR THE TRUTH

Residents attend screenings for education, fun

June 20, 2013

Wednesday night, the anti-gas film “Gasland II” screened in front of an audience of 625 people. “FrackNation,” a pro-gas film which showed simultaneously, only had 17 people in attendance....

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Rottyboyy

Aug-19-13 10:29 AM

Williamsport, in the late ninetheenth century, was built upon regional forest wealth. The Susquehanna River and its clear tributaries became important conduits for the early lumber industry. Recovery from that early assault on the environment was not quick or easy.

Now, the region is faced with an economic force that is quite possibly more volatile and far reaching than the deforestation of the 1800's. Fracking, in search of natural gas reserves, may seriously compromise both our forest and our water resources, and the very character of this region.

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Despite declines in population and economic activity over the past half century, Williamsport and the surrounding area have benefited greatly from the enduring natural beauty of the region. Will we have the insight and character to protect this priceless legacy?

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Brew4U

Jun-23-13 3:04 PM

Frack off Fracknation !

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BornHere

Jun-21-13 8:47 PM

CitizenSane, thank you for this information.

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CitizenSane

Jun-21-13 7:37 PM

"RDA is a grassroots group of dedicated citizens who have formed an alliance and welcome members with the widest possible concerns, interests and ideologies. RDA membership includes parents and grandparents, students, business people, hunters, fishermen, farmers, hikers, teachers, truckers, those who have leased their land to a gas company, and those who refused. RDA is an education and advocacy coalition. We seek to educate ourselves and the public about deep shale gas drilling and all of its ramifications. Through outreach programs, events, public forums, and our weekly e-letter, we strive to balance the conversation with authenticity. RDA advocates for federal, state and local regulations needed to protect our economy, environment, health, safety and quality of life."

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CitizenSane

Jun-21-13 7:37 PM

It should also be noted that John Shoemaker is now the managing editor for the Sullivan Review which has consistently praised the gas industry, while never once mentioning any of the many law suits, complaints, DEP violations, EPA violations, spills, leaks, accidents, documented contaminations, etc., while taking huge amounts of money from the industry for full page ads in the past when the industry, in particular Chesapeake and Chief Oil and Gas, were busy soliciting landowners in NEPA to sign leases. John Shoemaker is also the president of the National Association of Royalty Owners - PA. So, it's not like he does not have a personal vested financial interest in promoting gas drilling. In contrast, Josh Fox's "Gasland 2" free screening is being funded by the Responsible Drilling Alliance (RDA) of Williamsport.

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CitizenSane

Jun-21-13 7:34 PM

The O&G industry will stoop to anything. Logic and common sense dictates that if they were not afraid of the turning public opinion and the power of the people to stop this in PA with more than 75% of Pennsylvanians (republicans and democrats) favoring a moratorium, they would not be wasting their time, spending the money, or chasing Josh Fox around the country... and McAleer would actually agree to debate Fox publicly, which he won't. It is also important to note that this particular screening of McAleer's "Fracknation" is being funded and promoted by Greevy & Associates who "specialize in oil and gas law and estate planning" and are on retainer from the O&G industry, while Les Greevy and associate John Shoemaker are soliciting leaseholders to have them "manage and invest their royalty payments". That's why it's always important to follow the money and look behind the curtain to see who's spending it, and who's getting it.

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rick424

Jun-21-13 3:36 PM

How is it obvious Texas? To watch a paid commercial for the industry is educational? I won't watch either. I read blogs of real people that are having problems and there is no one to help them so their only recourse is the internet. That is until they are shut down. As I said before, they are sacrificial lambs.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-21-13 3:25 PM

"Residents attend screenings for education, fun" --Subtitle of Article

It is obvious the people that attended the Gasland 2 movie for education didn't receive their monies worth; I guess they had fun.

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Saints84

Jun-21-13 1:49 PM

You're welcome MisMac. I do not welcome arguments, I WELCOME debates, so please anyone that thinks what I stated earlier is not true, please inguire :) Have a great weekend all!

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MisMac

Jun-21-13 1:32 PM

And don't forget the old adage: Those who control the media, control the masses. Luckily, social media is reversing that quickly.

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MisMac

Jun-21-13 1:29 PM

Saints84, thank you for your insightful post and for this quote "There are two problems for our species' survival - nuclear war and environmental catastrophe - and we're hurtling towards them. Knowingly." It is truly telling.

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MisMac

Jun-21-13 1:27 PM

Correction...Do not listen to their rhetoric.

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Saints84

Jun-21-13 1:23 PM

the editor "needs."

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MisMac

Jun-21-13 1:23 PM

GysgtUSMC, don't be so sure that they are not going away. The more people educate themselves, the more pressure will be applied to stop this insanity. don't not listen to their rhetoric. This industry is her to frack the gas from under our feet and ship it to Asia, as well as, turn millionaire CEO's into billionaires. And they are going to wreck this place in ways that none of us can even imagine.

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Saints84

Jun-21-13 1:23 PM

(cont'd) corporate structure, corrupt politicians, and the list ("show") must go on. We ARE destroying our environment, and our future generations' chances, but all these states and leaders of these states seem to care about, is the $$. If this country and others around the world, continue to standby and let this happen, then we are all guilty and a product of our own demise. Please think about it, that's all I ask. In the words of Noam Chomsky, "There are two problems for our species' survival - nuclear war and environmental catastrophe - and we're hurtling towards them. Knowingly."

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Saints84

Jun-21-13 1:17 PM

The Sun Gazette is trying to do as much neutral reporting on this as possible. I understand, the editor news to get some "refresher" courses on proper editing and media bias, but I do think they realize most of the area is against this drilling of our beloved hometown/surrounding rural areas. Also, all of you people should be cognizant that history does in fact repeat itself. Please research the following industries: lumber, coal, waste management, among many others. The abovementioned industries have all affected the environment in positive and negative ways, obviously more of the latter though. The natural gas and oil industry is not much different from these, EXCEPT that some of the many negative ways we will affect the environment and human population are these cancer causing agents that ARE a part of the fracking process. Also, these huge corporate giants are exempt, that's right, exempt from the Clean Air and Water Act. Why is that, you ask? Lobbyists, corporate struct

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gavinf56

Jun-21-13 12:28 PM

"Gas prices alone would exceed $10.00 per gallon if we removed the subsidies for this industry."- Judgeandjury

Source please.

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rick424

Jun-21-13 10:39 AM

Bobbie, you said they funded Josh Fox, I can't disagree with what you said but you said Josh Fox....I am still waiting.

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Judgeandjury

Jun-21-13 9:32 AM

I keep reading and I keep becoming more stunned at the stupidity. Erik, do you know the difference between the old style fracking and the new? Probably not, you seem to wallow happily in your self imposed ignorance. Fracking of vertical wells is similar to horizontal wells in very few ways, and believe it or not we all know this. And there are plenty of instances of contamination. Pavillion, WY and Dimock, PA for instance. Simply because the NG Industry has pumped enough money into our regulatory bodies to have them reverse their findings does not change the facts. It is just the crimes they commit. And your willingness to follow the industry around like a puppy and repeat their lies and deceptions only makes you look like a fool, you do look like a fool you know. How do you look at your children and grandchildren in the eyes knowing that you are complicit in the destruction of their world? Is the money so important to you that you will sacrifice their future?

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Judgeandjury

Jun-21-13 9:25 AM

Gosh Erik, you accuse me of lying? Just because you say something and try to manipulate facts does not change things. The fossil fuel industry is the most subsidized industry in the world. Gas prices alone would exceed $10.00 per gallon if we removed the subsidies for this industry. Now, do you truly believe that they could compete with sustainable sources without these monies being pumped in to their industry? Tell me about it. You seem to be especially annoyed with these particular truths. Are you sensitive to reality? And you state that per kilowatt hour the sustainable energy sources receive more subsidies, but let's look at the total. How much is achieved by this subsidization compared to the fossil fuel industry. What to we get in the long run? In the fossil fuel industry we get short term resources that destroy our planet, with sustainable fuels we get infrastructure that can be used indefinitely. Care to figure out which is the wise investment? Parasite!

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rick424

Jun-21-13 7:09 AM

Still no link bobbie, I guess you just made it up. Figures

Interested in why TARGETOFFORCEDPOOLING chose that name,

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CitizenSane

Jun-21-13 1:26 AM

This debate is ridiculous. No one is addressing, or even mentioning the other consequences and impacts of this industrial operation. i.e. radioactive waste, fresh water consumption v water use, the 161 cases of contamination by the DEP, the erosion of our property rights and zoning rights. Those are the real issues and impacts of this industry, and I, along with many others, say it's not worth it.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-20-13 10:23 PM

A lot of hype on the postings today but most are aimed at comparing the head count of the two movies. Who actually went to the movie and what things did you learn about those nasty gas companies?

The only one that I have sympathy for is pinecr since he has to live with the traffic and noise. I wish that I had a solution for him.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-20-13 10:16 PM

"Pressure increases on the average .43 psi for ever foot of depth into the earth with would make the pressure at 5000 feet at over 2000psi. How do you think the gas gets to the surface w/o artificial lift."---TARGETOFFORCEDPOOLING

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The gas at 2000 psi does not migrate through the thousands of feet of rock that overlays it. It has been there for millions of years. The same rock layers prevent frack fluid from migrating up into the fresh water zones. The gas flows up the well that was drilled. The well provided a conduit for the gas to flow to the surface while ensuring the fresh water is protected.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-20-13 10:08 PM

"Whether it be in Pa or Texas. So what is the answer?"---GysgtUSMC

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The answer is to follow the rules and regulations that have been established by the state for oil and gas business. They were written to protect our water, air and people. These rules, best practices, and technologies have been adopted from other states and have improved tremendously through the years.

I remember reading well files and records of wells that were drilled in the 40's and the cementing and completion practices were poor as compared to the modern day practices. Some of those wells were subsequently squeezed with additional cement multiple times to repair them and prevent migration of fluids behind pipe. People learned to improve these previously poor practices and the practices now days are far superior.

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