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Thankful to vets

June 27, 2013

A few weeks ago, my family went to Washington, D.C. We visited the Capital building and got to sit in the gallery and watch the Senate discussing a bil....

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MrShaman

Jun-30-13 8:05 AM

"You SHAM are not fit to talk about ANYONE in the U.S. military, with the exception of Nidal Malik Hasan, who appears to have an opinion of our military similar to yours.

You are disgusting, and your comments have passed the point of drivel and are now identifiable as extremist propaganda.

You are PITIFUL beyond words!!!!" - USABorn

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I guess you forgot to say "Gawd Bless JOHN WAYNE!!" (...America's favorite Chickenhawk.)

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USABorn

Jun-28-13 11:36 PM

MrShaman - 10:47 AM

"DOWN to my level. You're addressing someone who (actually) REMEMBERS the years (during 'Nam), when the average educational-level (in The Corps) was 3rd Grade!!"

I too lived thru the Nam years. My 2 Marine brothers and my Army brother were ALL high school grads who had started college, but left to ENLIST. All are Nam vets....the Army brother 2 tours. Two got purple hearts, and Army brother was given an award for bravery when he brought his men out under fire.

You SHAM are not fit to talk about ANYONE in the U.S. military, with the exception of Nidal Malik Hasan, who appears to have an opinion of our military similar to yours.

You are disgusting, and your comments have passed the point of drivel and are now identifiable as extremist propaganda.

You are PITIFUL beyond words!!!!

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USABorn

Jun-28-13 11:07 PM

MrShaman - Jun-27-13 7:17 AM

"Major General Smedley D. Butler"

During his 34-year career as a Marine, he participated in military actions in the Philippines, China, in Central America and the Caribbean during the Banana Wars, and France in World War I.

By the end of his career, he had received 16 medals, five for heroism. He is one of 19 men to twice receive the Medal of Honor, one of three to be awarded both the Marine Corps Brevet Medal and the Medal of Honor, and the only marine to be awarded the Brevet Medal and two Medals of Honor, all for separate actions.

Read the rest of his sad tale, Smedley's history at wikepedia.

"Allegations of the Business Plot," was quite interesting. And Libs talk about CONSERVATIVE conspiracies?

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rmiller

Jun-28-13 8:02 PM

To those of you who took a special moment in time and projected your usual spew, I hope and pray that not one more soldier dies for your rights on your behalf, literally.

This letter, written by a young person, who still has pride in this country hasn't been demonized by political correctness and or the political filth on 1600 Pa Ave. His letter, regardless of what your political poison is, should be commended.

Benjamin, what a wonderful, insightful letter from a truly patriotic citizen of these United States. Your family should be proud!

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CMReeder

Jun-28-13 1:29 PM

There is a difference in being critical of the President and being disrespectful. There are not one and the same.

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BornHere

Jun-28-13 1:01 PM

My goodness Wes your making me feel old, you were probably 3 years old when I first met you and your sister. Like I said I use to live around you. You and your sister use to wait for me when I would be out walking my dog, my dog's name was Skippy and you would call him Kissy, you were so adorable!!

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wwhickok

Jun-28-13 10:52 AM

Also, this is just my opinion and I'm not lobbying for or against him, but a President is not necessarily representative of a solider.

Just because we have Obama as our President, doesn't mean every soldier in the military chose him as their leader. They follow the President because it's their duty, not necessarily their personal choice or belief. So for someone to criticize a president, it's NOT, imo, the same thing as criticizing the men and women who defend our country.

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wwhickok

Jun-28-13 10:49 AM

First of all, BornHere, my hats off to you, I don't really remember you but you mentioned in a previous comment to another letter some time ago, you knew me. That's not really here nor there, I just wanted to say to you and everyone else thank you.

I'm not sure, being completely honest, I have the mental & internal strength to defend our country in the way that so many of you have. I have no doubt I have that ability to defend my family, but defending a country in war, that takes a lot of courage. I know, without a doubt if it weren't for all of you, I wouldn't have the many luxuries that I enjoy all the time. Thank you, I do, like so many others, greatly appreciate it.

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 7:14 PM

Sham- I apologize for every cross word I've ever said about you. I pray someday you can find some happiness in this world. I ask everyone, even if you're not a believer, to say a prayer for our friend Sham. Hopefully he will understand how God loves him." - JohnZook

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I've got no use for phantoms. If that's what you "need", to get thru the day...some entity that's already "planned" your Life...knock yourself out. I prefer to be more proactive at determining my own Life...without the "benefit" of blaming events/outcomes on someone/something else.

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 7:06 PM

Geeze, I guess Shaman couldn't stand the accurate facts being posted...." - Tgrammiex4

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Seeing-as-how I'm the only person who'd posted any facts, to support my position, I'm "standing" just fine.

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JohnZook

Jun-27-13 4:59 PM

Sham- I apologize for every cross word I've ever said about you. I pray someday you can find some happiness in this world. I ask everyone, even if you're not a believer, to say a prayer for our friend Sham. Hopefully he will understand how God loves him.

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GoBB62

Jun-27-13 2:19 PM

".if you're some kind o' John Wayne/ReRon Reagan fan."

Keep typing sham. Bonzo has the lead on you on the maturity and IQ levels, and pulling away with each post you put up.

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Tgrammiex4

Jun-27-13 12:20 PM

Geeze, I guess Shaman couldn't stand the accurate facts being posted....

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philunderwood

Jun-27-13 11:52 AM

Regardless of what we believe about recent wars, we should offer as much support and respect as we can to our service men and women and their families. That’s especially true for our wounded warriors and their families.

The letter was great.

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BornHere

Jun-27-13 10:59 AM

As a wife of a Vietnam Veteran I would like to thank you Benjamin for your letter, you touched my heart.

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 10:58 AM

Shaman: DOWN to my level. You're addressing someone who (actually) REMEMBERS the years (during 'Nam), when the average educational-level (in The Corps) was 3rd Grade!!

And you wonder why I have no respect for this man." - GysgtUSMC

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You're experiencing a bi-polar episode????????

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 10:54 AM

GysgtUSMC - I in no way insinuated that there should be no military, what I insinuated was that today's usage versus constitutional usage are not one and the same. No where does it state that the military should ever be used offensively to counter some supposed threat. That is not what defense is. Defense -a : capability of resisting attack. Attacking others is not defense." - CarlHiller

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Hmmmmmm....makes ya' wonder how The DICK & Dumbya (Constitutionally) defended preemptive-striking....well, besides-the-fact Daddy's Lil' Dumbya had ALWAYS done what he damned-well-pleased, all throughout his life.

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GysgtUSMC

Jun-27-13 10:53 AM

Shaman: DOWN to my level. You're addressing someone who (actually) REMEMBERS the years (during 'Nam), when the average educational-level (in The Corps) was 3rd Grade!!

And you wonder why I have no respect for this man.

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 10:47 AM

"Mr. Reeder, I respect myself and others that have earned that respect. Am I qualified to teach what respect is? I'll defer that question to the hundreds of Marines I have trained. I apologies again for using this young man's letter and getting defensive with Shaman. I have learned that it does no good and I don't want to be drawn down to his level." - GysgtUSMC

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DOWN to my level. You're addressing someone who (actually) REMEMBERS the years (during 'Nam), when the average educational-level (in The Corps) was 3rd Grade!!

BTW...that's a-p-o-l-o-g-i-z-e.

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CarlHiller

Jun-27-13 10:43 AM

GysgtUSMC - Respectfully I have to disagree with the assertion "if all young men and women had your attitude we wouldn't have a military." I would hope that maybe you would take the time to read the Constitution. Article 1 Section 8: begins: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common 'Defence' and general Welfare of the United States; While every branch is constitutional, modern usage is most likely not. I in no way insinuated that there should be no military, what I insinuated was that today's usage versus constitutional usage are not one and the same. No where does it state that the military should ever be used offensively to counter some supposed threat. That is not what defense is. Defense -a : capability of resisting attack. Attacking others is not defense.

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 10:41 AM

GysgtUSMC, I don't think you are qualified to instruct someone else about respect.

Mr. Shaman if you truly want to educate others about Vietnam write a letter do not use a 14 year olds letter on his trip to DC and how it made him feel to vent your opinions about Vietnam. I too have strong feelings against that war. In my opinion this is NOT the letter to express that." - CMReeder

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When GysgtUSMC feels obligated to dispense with the whole pro-military/"defending our Constitution"-screed, I feel the same obligation to remind (others') how...when we SCREW-UP...we don't mess-around...but, get a LOT o' unsuspecting Americans killed, ANYhow!!!

Hey....it's "the time o' the season" (i.e. The 4th)...and, hardly Christmas-fare...

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GysgtUSMC

Jun-27-13 10:39 AM

Mr. Reeder, I respect myself and others that have earned that respect. Am I qualified to teach what respect is? I'll defer that question to the hundreds of Marines I have trained. I apologies again for using this young man's letter and getting defensive with Shaman. I have learned that it does no good and I don't want to be drawn down to his level.

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 10:32 AM

"I'm not threatening you at all Mr. Shaman. I would love to sit down with you and teach you about respect, honor, courage and commitment. I could bring my son with me who is currently serving and is third generation Marine. And maybe I'll bring my son-in-law who is a Marine Drill Instructor at Parris Island. You see I part of a family of Marines that love this country and we are all honored to have served. Excuse me if I get a little offensive when I hear some people make remarks they no nothing about." - GysgtUSMC

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I'm sure you meant "KNOW nothing about"...and, I hardly need any "instructions" from people who "only" follow-orders!!!

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See:

Winter Soldier 1972 (Full) - (YouTube)

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CMReeder

Jun-27-13 10:26 AM

GysgtUSMC, I don't think you are qualified to instruct someone else about respect.

Mr. Shaman if you truly want to educate others about Vietnam write a letter do not use a 14 year olds letter on his trip to DC and how it made him feel to vent your opinions about Vietnam. I too have strong feelings against that war. In my opinion this is NOT the letter to express that.

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MrShaman

Jun-27-13 10:12 AM

"You know it is disheartening to see a wonderful letter from a 14 year old being turn into a grudge match." - CMReeder

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The second-half of Benjamin's letter was (primarily) referencing 'Nam. Shortly, after, GysgtUSMC starts doing his little "dance" about "protecting our rights under the Constitution" and how "many of our young men and women have died defending it".

Maybe it's a generational-thing, but 'Nam was NEVER about any of that!!! That War was PRIMARILY about this Country being EXTORTED into defending France's "divine right" to maintain their colonization of Vietnam!!!! We S-C-R-E-W-E-D the Vietnamese, after they'd AIDED us...against Japan's (attempted) efforts to overrun/control SE Asia!!!

To suggest Benjamin doesn't NEED to hear that (entire) History is ABSURD!!!

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