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Regs are the dregs

June 30, 2013

On June 10, the Federal Drug Administration dropped all regulations on the books requiring pharmaceutical companies to disclose the contents of prescription and over-the counter drugs....

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-02-13 5:54 AM

Rutty, you are correct,

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Ritty77

Jul-02-13 3:21 AM

Thanks, Texas. I just meant that less holes (wells) need to be drilled into the ground to extract a comparable amount of gas.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-01-13 7:50 PM

Cont>>>

The shallowest vertical portion of the well is drilled through the fresh water zone. Then steel pipe (casing) is cemented into place and acts as protection so the fresh water is not contaminated with the fluids inside the well. Some might consider this an intrusion.

The frack (gelled water and sand) or other common methods like matrix acidizing or acid fracing do not "grow" into or "intrude" into the fresh water zones.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-01-13 7:49 PM

"doesn't fracking require much less aquifer intrusion that traditional methods?"--Ritty77

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Ritty, I am not quite sure what you are asking so I will provide several answers/comments that may or may not answer it.

When you say aquifer, I assume you mean the fresh water zones. There are also salt water or geothermal aquifers.

Fracking is a traditional method of helping stimulate the producing formation so it it will produce more oil or gas. Approx 70% of the wells are fracked in the US.

Coupling the frack with a well that is drilled vertical and then turned into the horizontal (ie horizontal drilling) in the Marcellus shale is the technology that has made it economical.

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Ritty77

Jul-01-13 4:18 PM

"Nevertheless, industry sponsored studies have convincingly shown there is no scientific evidence that fracking causes serious damage to the environment."

This is written as sarcasm, but isn't it true? Haven't most non-industry types certified this process as acceptable?

They've been fracking for decades. What do the data show? Mostly safe, or mostly not.

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To Erik and toTexas, doesn't fracking require much less aquifer intrusion that traditional methods?

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CarlHiller

Jul-01-13 6:02 AM

Mike I do agree with this, "there is no way they can predict how their medication will react with 24 other medications." I have tried to get my dad to get a 3rd opinion but he, like many of the elderly trust there doctors more than they should today. My Dad's problems all started from 3 years ago when a different doctor prescribed a cholesterol med, due to slightly elevated cholesterol, that caused his blood pressure to go up requiring a blood pressure drug, which nearly destroyed his kidney function. Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers. Is it the Doctors fault or is it the FDA and the drug companies? I believe it to be a combination of doctor, FDA/Drug cos., lawyers and the government being overly involved in an area that they should have minimal involvement.

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CarlHiller

Jul-01-13 5:46 AM

Hi Mike - Sorry, I did not get a chance to post yesterday, it wasn't a very good day. Do I believe the FDA won't require drug companies to list side-effects,I don't know of any reg that states this, I personally wouldn't put it past them, I do not trust anything our government and bureaucrats do today. They already do not require serious testing of any drug like 30 years ago. If it passes the rat test - it will be approved. My dad sees 2 doctors one who specializes in kidney functions and one who is basically his family physician. The current team of Doctors have stated that every current problem stems from this new drug which his doctor should have never prescribed, and should have never doubled his dosage after 3 days of use, due to previous kidney probs from another drug. As far as the the 25 meds go, he has to take them with him everytime he goes to the kidney doctor. According to both Doctors they are in agreement that every drug is a requirement to keep his body functioning.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-30-13 7:41 PM

"You mean like the Clean Water Act?" --CHayes

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There have been instances where tanks, pipelines, pumps, etc have failed and discharges have made it into surface waters. In addition, some less than scrupulous people have discharged drilling/fracking fluids that have also run off into streams.

Appropriate jurisdictional agencies (federal or state) would levy fines and/or prison sentencing, where appropriate.

These are exceptions and are not common occurrences.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-30-13 7:25 PM

"contains the water that we as a species require to survive?" --CHayes

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Several things around this thought.

There are increased attempts to use alternate sources of water for fracking.

Frac flow-back water is recycled where possible.

When a methane gas molecule is burned to make heat, two molecules of water vapor are generated so you form more water.

When the fresh surface water (ie. creeks and rivers) finally make it to the ocean, they become non-drinkable ocean water. So if it is not used, it still becomes non-potable.

The water that eventually makes it to the ocean evaporates, turns into rain, and does the cycle again.

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eriklatranyi

Jun-30-13 5:42 PM

CHayes said:

"...fracking involves pumping millions of gallons of water, and a secret laundry list of chemicals at extremely high pressure into the ground that contains the water that we as a species require to survive?"

Now, class. Show me where the frack fluid contacts the aquifer?

How does that happen inside a metal pipe that is encased in concrete?

If you are suggesting that frack fluid migrates against gravity 4000 feet into the aquifer, then you need to return to elementary school.

In fact, if such cracks existed, the aquifer would drain down into the wellbore at 5000 feet.

But that has not happened.

Neither has frack fluid contamination of an aquifer due to hyrdraulic fracturing.

But those little facts means nothing to the hysteria you can create by making people think the industry pumps chemicals straight into the wells of unsuspecting residents.

PS: Frack fluid contains water, proppant, a lubricant and an algaecide.

If those chemicals were so h

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rmiller

Jun-30-13 5:32 PM

Alsever,

"How about regulating the junk sold in Health Food stores? Ever read the content of Heavy metals in their unregulated poisons? "

People who use homeopathic/alternative food/medicinal therapies do so at their own choice. When we purchase any food/drug from/over the counter, stamped with approval from the FDA, we at least believe it to be safe.

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rmiller

Jun-30-13 5:29 PM

STR, should be LTR...duhh..

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rmiller

Jun-30-13 5:28 PM

Remember the song, "Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places," well....

The present admin. is putting regs in all the wrong places.

How about this? Before one can become a president of this country they at least should be competent enough that no teleprompter is needed to assist in communicating effectively?)

How about persons submitting a welfare application, also submitting to an immediate drug test followed by random (not routine) drug testing while receiving aid from the govt?

This STR is suggesting arbitrary removal of regulations that protect us (which is what govt. is suggesting) and proposing more regulations on companies that produce something.

I'm surmising that most persons do not want the govt. to not oversee areas of protective services (I think that's part of their function, correct? Have we lowered the requirements on a civil service test to that of a first grader? I don't even think that politicians are required to pass a civil service test.

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Alsever

Jun-30-13 4:48 PM

How about regulating the junk sold in Health Food stores? Ever read the content of Heavy metals in their unregulated poisons?

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CHayes

Jun-30-13 2:24 PM

" There are various state and federal agencies that utilize a range of different industry specifications, standards, codes, laws and self-developed rules to regulate the oil and gas industry."

You mean like the Clean Water Act? That must be a tough one to get around, as fracking involves pumping millions of gallons of water, and a secret laundry list of chemicals at extremely high pressure into the ground that contains the water that we as a species require to survive?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-30-13 2:11 PM

There are various state and federal agencies that utilize a range of different industry specifications, standards, codes, laws and self-developed rules to regulate the oil and gas industry.

Off the top of my head, some of those agencies are: Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Occupational Safety Health Administration (OSHA), Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection (DEP), Pennsylvania Public Utility Commission (PUC), Army Corps of Engineers (ACOE), US Coast Guard (USCG), Department of Transportation (DOT), Bureau of Land Management (BLM), Mineral Management Service (MMS), Department of Energy (DOE), Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC), and Security and Exchange Commission (SEC).

It is not as if the O&G industry is self-regulated. Might I add that it is probably a competitive advantage for the O&G companies that can navigate these mine fields of regulations and permits.

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GysgtUSMC

Jun-30-13 10:10 AM

Hey does anyone know of a good place in town that has a Sunday brunch buffet?

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DavidBross

Jun-30-13 8:28 AM

I was also fooled by the first paragraph. Then I saw I.M. Trustworthy and realized it was satire. I think Tim did a good job. Satire is a difficult style to use and Tim has tried it before. This is his best effort, in my opinion.

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nobud74

Jun-30-13 8:10 AM

I agree Mike. 25 meds is over the top. The problem with our better living through pharmaceuticals model is that there are always side effects to everything we ingest. So, the doc gives you another to counter the other and pretty soon you are a walking pharmacy. Seek out a doc that tries other measures instead of just writing scripts. (Dr. Ciccarelli is awesome about that and specializes in elder patients--he was the doc for a family member who I took there for appointments.) But, let's get to the real reason most docs prescribe too much--could it be they are overworked, are sued too much and have been bombarded by requests from patients for this or that drug? Why do you think they advertise all of it all over the place?

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gavinf56

Jun-30-13 7:59 AM

I. M. Trustworthy is also the business man in the 3 Stooges skits, and this letter closely resembles those skits.

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mikekerstetter

Jun-30-13 7:50 AM

Carl, I wish your father well. But really? 25 different medications per day? I don't care how much testing a pharmaceutical company or FDA does on it's drugs there is no way they can predict how their medication will react with 24 other medications.

Just curious, how many different Dr's does your father see to get all those different medications? If it's just one, I'd say it's time for a new Dr.

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spike2

Jun-30-13 7:47 AM

This is not on all drugs. Statins (cholesterol drugs) will have the liver damage warning removed in side effects. Carl - hope your father makes a full recovery. I agree that testing of statins is insufficient. I do agree in this instance that the "Corporate world ruling the government all in the name of profit". Why is everyone suddenly on cholesterol meds? Does anyone else question the need for a medication when many your friends, family and co-workers are also receiving the same class of drug? There is something very wrong when commercials on media tell us to ask our Dr.'s for meds?

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GysgtUSMC

Jun-30-13 7:38 AM

Mr. Shaman, I agree, I guess he was trying to be cute but it just makes those that are serious about this issue look bad.

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CMReeder

Jun-30-13 7:36 AM

Very good satirical letter about deregulation of the federal government. The name I.M.Trustworthy was a dead give away.

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MrShaman

Jun-30-13 7:23 AM

Seriously?

I. M. Trustworthy???????

How do you expect to be taken, seriously, thru such a sophomoric-tactic?

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