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Rattlesnakes, overgrown brush concern former Rider Park ranger

July 1, 2013

Since former Rider Park ranger Ron Beach left that voluntary position last summer, he has been thinking quite a bit about how the 867-acre park and its 15 miles of trails are being maintained....

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DRxBMW

Jul-01-13 8:09 AM

Ha,rattle snakes are everywhere Ron.

Should Pa close the rails to trails to MTB bikers also ? Plethora of snakes in that region.

Spray the hiking trails to eliminate poison ivy next on the list ?

A WILD environment has dangers lurking, be aware.It's NOT an amusement park !

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Fast22

Jul-01-13 9:30 AM

Very dumb comment DRxBMW. My guess is you have never been to Rider Park in which case you have no idea what this man is referring to. I was riding my MTB (that is a MounTain Bike) there Saturday and noticed how the grass trails out in the fields are not being maintained. Anyone who hikes or bikes these areas appreciates the grass being cut. Nothing worse than encountering rattlers when you can't see them. On the rail trail where bikers (not MTB) ride you can see the snakes and easily avoid them.

We who frequent Rider Park really appreciate the work these volunteers have done and will sorely miss their efforts. Rider truly is a natural gem in our county.

PS: In addition to your dumb comments your grammar and punctuation is a mess.

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aretesancus

Jul-01-13 10:14 AM

A little harsh, Fast22, don't you think?

I got a sense from this story that there is more under the surface than uncut grass; sounded like some sour grapes veiled as concern for the dangers hikers and bikers encounter in any of Pennsylvania's wilds.

I ride a MTB at Rider Park. I ride at Rothrock. I ride in and out of state. And I ride Rail-Trail, too. I've encountered snakes (both copperheads and rattle snakes) at all locations.

I think the point DRxBMW is making is that each of these places pose an inherent risk to encounter a variety of creatures. Sounds like the uncut grass at Rider Park makes for better rattle snake encounters. Ride (or hike) with caution.

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Fast22

Jul-01-13 10:29 AM

aretesancus, no I do not think what I said is harsh. Otherwise I would not have commented. The other commenter made the statement "close the rails to trails". I re-read the article and see nothing about closing trails. I agree that there are dangers in the wilds. Just don't understand the others ramblings.

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Fast22

Jul-01-13 10:29 AM

aretesancus, no I do not think what I said is harsh. Otherwise I would not have commented. The other commenter made the statement "close the rails to trails". I re-read the article and see nothing about closing trails. I agree that there are dangers in the wilds. Just don't understand the others ramblings.

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LLinda

Jul-01-13 10:35 AM

I have been walking this park for almost 20 years and have NEVER seen a rattlesnake. Why are you trying to scare people? Snakes are more afraid of us than we are of them and they almost always take off before we even know they were there. I have seen bear scat, but again, never a bear. They act the same as snakes, and are seldom seen. As for dogs being bitten -- I say that may teach the owners that the leash rule (which I saw 3 out of 3 groups ignoring last walk) is for the dogs own good as well as a law. I am also of the opinion that the trails have been better maintained in the last few years. Better mowed and less muddy. And, I like to see the fields long and natural, blowing in the wind. If I want everything all groomed instead of natural, I will go to a city park.

p.s. comments on peoples grammar and punctuation are not in the grain of polite discourse.

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DRxBMW

Jul-01-13 1:11 PM

Apparently,Fast22 desires a "bike path" in Rider instead of single track.

"better mowed less muddy" can you say poser ?

Pedal with me to the water company land track sometime. It's the real deal for MTB,read NO wimps.

ooh Dorothy,lions,tigers and bears are lurking in that nasty brush.

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Fast22

Jul-01-13 1:42 PM

LOL DRxBMW you must be a wimp thinking the Water Authority is the "real deal" for MTB. You are obviously not a real mountain biker. Next time I ride the wimpy WMWA I'll look for the kid with the training wheels and pink streamers and give you a shout.

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aretesancus

Jul-01-13 2:02 PM

How did this turn into a couple of MTBers comparing the size of their seat posts. Kinda embarrassing for the rest of us.

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Fast22

Jul-01-13 2:07 PM

I agree.

Thank you Mr. Beach and the other volunteers who have in the past and will in the future take care of Rider Park.

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rmiller

Jul-01-13 3:03 PM

If I want... " If I want everything all groomed instead of natural, I will go to a city park."

Clearly this gentleman is giving wise advice. Snakes, particularly rattle snakes do not run from anything/person that comes upon it, either at a safe distance or not. The snake doesn't care about distance, just territory. I love natural beauty that God gave us (to have dominion over the animals). And, selfish me, I love to walk through parks that are maintained. Take Niagara Falls for instance. Should there not be safety precautions around the natural beauty? I snickered at the "she gave birth to baby rattlesnakes" and thought, I'm guessing this comment comes from a pro-choice person. Generally, people who humanize animals hold them in equal, if not higher standing than a tiny baby in the womb.

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rmiller

Jul-01-13 3:06 PM

Fast22,

I agree with your post - one bite from a rattle snake and it might jar a person's thought processes. Oh, and having three personal encounters with bears, they don't just run away. Bears are highly unpredictable animals.

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localhero

Jul-01-13 3:57 PM

I've never seen a rattle snake at Rider Park, but I always just assumed they were there. It's Pennsylvania and it's the forest. Same goes for bears. I don't need a front page article to know there are dangerous creatures in the forest. I always find the trails very passable and well marked. Keep your dogs on the leash and be aware of your surroundings.

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