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July 3, 2013

A letter was written about a child denied graduation rites because they were home school....

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USABorn

Jul-03-13 3:21 AM

Reeder is an expert on every possible subject under the sun, or so HE thinks. The vast majority of SG readers are well aware of his liberal ranting. If I had $1 from everyone who read his letters, I probably couldn't afford dinner at a nice restaurant.

Most people check the letter writer's name before reading the letter. Seeing his name means, "move on, nothing here."

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Don521

Jul-03-13 4:59 AM

If the school did not educate the student, giving the student a diploma from the school would be ridiculous. Have the parents make one on their computer.

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Premier

Jul-03-13 5:43 AM

Well for the first time I read one of Chuck's LTE and didn't feel the need to hit the "giggle" button.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-03-13 6:03 AM

I don't mind listening to the opinions of parents out there regarding this matter and the home schooling choice, but Mr. Reeder really should leave it to the subject matter experts that have actually raised or are raising children.

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VinceKnauff

Jul-03-13 6:06 AM

My hands are cramping up as I type this, because for the first time in memory I actually agree with Chuck here.

Choices have consequences. The school system did not teach your child. Why should they graduate your child? That's the thought I had when I read that story a couple weeks ago.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-03-13 6:12 AM

In most graduation ceremonies that I have attended, one of the school officials will state that the students have completed the academic requirements. The official can only make that oath if the students were in their school system and have the records to prove it.

Extracurricular activities have no bearing; it is all about academics.

Reeder has it right, albeit with some irritating attacks.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-03-13 6:21 AM

On rare occasion I do agree with Mr. Reeder. This is one of them.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-03-13 6:32 AM

I meant no disrespect to Mr. Reeder, but if I recall when the original letter came out from this young man's grandmother, he had very strong feelings about this matter and parents who choose to home school. Unless you've raised children or are raising children, I don't think you have the qualifications to offer advice or opinion. Remember you conservatives out there, Chuck said he is glad he decided not to have kids because you folks screwed up this country. LoL

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MrShaman

Jul-03-13 6:38 AM

"In most graduation ceremonies that I have attended, one of the school officials will state that the students have completed the academic requirements. The official can only make that oath if the students were in their school system and have the records to prove it.

Extracurricular activities have no bearing; it is all about academics." - ToTEXASfromPA

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Agreed. (OUCH!!!!!)

I was thinking the same. If the school isn't a local-rep (for evaluating completion of required-activities/studies), that would verify a legitimate Graduation...who would be?

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-03-13 6:42 AM

Personally I was more concerned about the graduation parties than I was the actual graduation lol

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BornHere

Jul-03-13 6:59 AM

Thank you Mr. Reeder, I like your letter.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-03-13 7:33 AM

First, if a child is home-schooled, they must meet and pass certain state tests and standards.

So, it is not correct to say the child has not earned a diploma from the "system".

But I do not believe the local district has an obligation to accept home-schooled children into their graduation ceremonies.

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SteelerFan

Jul-03-13 8:20 AM

OK Chuck, several conservatives agree with you here. I say it wouldn't hurt you to occassionally agree with a poster of a different political view.

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farmer

Jul-03-13 8:30 AM

"It is not the school you should be disappointed with but your grandchild's parents."

I may be missing the tone of this letter, but it sounds like Mr. Reeder (and many of those commenting) feel the parents were somehow doing something terribly wrong, possibly evil, by choosing to home school their children. After all the years of people voicing concern about how public schools are failing, and all we do is throw more money at the problem, you can still criticize a home schooler? (I do not know Mr. Reeder's view on this matter) There are many reasons parents may choose this difficult, challenging and time consuming form of education. Higher academic standards,perceived or not, religious beliefs, or for special needs children, to name a few. I have several friends who fill all those categories. As far as meeting the schools standards, per capita, home schoolers score higher on the SAT's then public schooled children.

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farmer

Jul-03-13 8:40 AM

It almost sounds like Mr. Reeder feels the school district would be put out some how if this student were to participate in graduation. Would they need to rent a few more chairs? Run off another diploma? Might they need one more balloon? Keep in mind, parents who choose to home school don't get any break on their school property taxes. These students are children. They may not go to the same classes with our children, but they have still grown up with them and are friends with them, let them have this experience with them. I'll pay for the extra balloon.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-03-13 8:47 AM

Farmer, that was exactly my point regarding my comment about Mr. Reeder. If you go back and read the original letter entitled "Denied" in early June and read some of his comments, such as "Don't want thier children indoctrinated but it is the parents who home schooling who are doing the indoctrination." It is obvious that he more against home schooling. And my only response to that is if you don't have kids, how can you comment or judge others?

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SteelerFan

Jul-03-13 9:01 AM

I'm generally not in favor of home schooling but understand that in some cases, home schooling is in the child's best interest. For the 'normal' student, public school is the best place to be as the student is introduced to people from all walks and beliefs in life, which IMHO, makes them a better person and citizen.

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FormerEastEnder

Jul-03-13 9:02 AM

I agree with Mr. Reeder's letter. There are consequences for actions, both good and bad. The child probably received a better education at home, but did not earn the right to walk down the aisle of a school he did not attened to earn that education (setting extra ciricular aside). I see no obligation in a school that has to offer a diploma to a student that did not attend, but then I am not an expert but only seeing it for what was presented. Condequences = actions.

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FormerEastEnder

Jul-03-13 9:03 AM

curricular*.. coffee hasn't hit yet

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FormerEastEnder

Jul-03-13 9:04 AM

condequences*... sheesh.. ANOTHER CUP, PLEASE !!

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FormerEastEnder

Jul-03-13 9:05 AM

consequences**.. i give up

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DavidBross

Jul-03-13 9:07 AM

When it comes to home-schooled students participating in the activities of the district in which they live, I think that they should be allowed to participate in whatever activities that are appropriate for their age/grade level. However, there should be no additional cost burden placed on the district. For example, if a home-schooled student wishes to attend a class in the mid-day, their parents are responsible for their transportation, not the district because the district already offers transportation to and from school. Having said that, I think that, unless you fear for the safety of your child, you do your child a significant disservice by not sending them to school (public or private). Kids need to see people who are not like them and learn how to deal with folks they may not particularly like.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-03-13 9:27 AM

It was always my understanding that Graduation Ceremonies were for the Student Body, et al those who attended classes at that school. I have nothing against homeschooling but I feel if you make that choice you should not expect your child to graduate with a school they didn't attend.I understand all the paperwork for homeschooling goes thru the local school district. Maybe the district should offer a ceremony at thier location for graduating homeschoolers. They really need to come up with a policy on this.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-03-13 9:43 AM

I think we need more information regarding this situation before we pass judgment. According to the original letter, this young man attended afternoon classes and wrestled and played football. Now I would think for that to happen he would have to be registered at that school. So it sounds like he got his required credits through home schooling and afternoon public school. When I went to school they had a Vo-Tech program at WACC. The students spent just as much time there as they did at school and as long as they had the credits they were able to graduate. I'm not quite sure, but I think some may be letting their attitude about home schooling, judge this specific incident because in my opinion if he was a registered and attended afternoon classes, then he is part of the student body. And I'm pretty sure just to represent the school in sports he has to be registered.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-03-13 10:09 AM

And just to be clear I did not home school my kids and I wouldn't recommend my kids to home school my grandkids. Some of my best years were in high school. But I do not judge those who do and I clearly see some of the reasons they do.

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