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The problem

July 4, 2013

Many letter writers and commentators take a hard right or hard left position, but in the end the problem with voting at all is the winner is always a politician....

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mikekerstetter

Jul-04-13 5:01 AM

True, Phil.

"America's current moral decline is directly linked to the fact that we have elected, appointed, and hired too many leaders who have no character"- From the book '12 Ordinary Men'.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-04-13 5:55 AM

You'de think somewhere in this country you could find one or two honorable, non-coruptable people to lead this country out of this mess. Good letter Mr. Underwood.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-04-13 6:22 AM

That's I strongly believe in term limits. Since the American people are not doing a very good job in the election process with getting these career politicians out of office, I think an 8 year term limit would help cycle through new blood and new ideas.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-04-13 6:52 AM

"What makes more sense is to vote for best candidate, regardless of their political party."

Francine, I totally agree and as an independent I wish Pa and, I believe 18 other states, would change their law of closed primaries. In Pa alone you are locking out over 1 million tax paying voters because they choose not to be affiliated with either party. Much is said about voter ID law and how it will preclude the poor, but no one seems to mention the fact that millions of independents across the country are not allowed to vote in primaries in 19 states. We have only have left to vote for the candidates that the republicans and democrats have chosen. And I'm sorry, but just in the last two elections, Obama/McCain and Obama/Romney isn't much to choose from. With more and more people becoming disgusted with both parties, the primaries should be open to all nationwide.

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USABorn

Jul-04-13 7:18 AM

GysgtUSMC - You don't have to completely lose your vote in the primary. It isn't fair, and it takes a little effort, but the answer is to change your registration. When you decide who you are going to vote for in the most important office of your concern, register for that party. After the election, re-register for the general election as an "I."

Start a campaign to get PA to change that part of the election law.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-04-13 7:39 AM

USA I used to do that but I shouldn't have to keep changing my registration or be forced to register with a certain party just to vote in a primary. The number of independents keeps growing.

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CMReeder

Jul-04-13 7:45 AM

Who do you think is going to be in a political contest?

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JerryfromRI

Jul-04-13 7:47 AM

Hey Phil, if electing the people to represent us in government troubles you so, perhaps you'd care to offer an alternative.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-04-13 7:51 AM

We already have terms limits, it's called don't vote to reelect the guy.

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Ritty77

Jul-04-13 7:52 AM

Good letter, Phil. I would note that Senator Ted Cruz might be an exception, at least so far.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-04-13 8:05 AM

Politicians who make careers out of "serving" are the problem....from both political parties.

Term limits sound good, but what stops the staff of a politician from being the "elected one" while the politician serves as chief of staff?

The money and power are addicting.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-04-13 8:07 AM

LOL, we've got an exception people. They're all no good until the guy you like comes around.

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CMReeder

Jul-04-13 8:31 AM

Ted Cruz is an exception. No he is not.

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JohnZook

Jul-04-13 8:41 AM

Cruz, Lee, Rand Paul, Assa; There are a few that are "doing the People's business" but far too few. And, it takes big bucks and connections to mount a campaign. Besides, it 's all about the money.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-04-13 8:47 AM

Looks like we've got a bunch of exceptions now. Toomey didn't make the cut?

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-04-13 8:58 AM

This isn't going to go over well, but I think these huge campaign contibutions from buis. and rich individuals should be banned.When they contibute millions they expect favors.With TV and the internet they don't need to travel all over and spend millions.Buy a couple of hours of TV time to state thier positions, make all thier info available on line, maybe do a mailing.Limit contributions to $X per person or buisiness.No more favors.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-04-13 9:08 AM

I agree Tgrammie... I think the figure being quoted is 1.7 billion spent between Romney and Obama. Campaign Finance Reform is definitely in order.

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CMReeder

Jul-04-13 9:16 AM

They are all in politics just because they are Tea party favs does not exclude them. They are like it or not politicians. They are busy securing a retention of their seat at the table in politics.

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philunderwood

Jul-04-13 9:18 AM

The primaries are intended for the parties to select their nominee, so non-members shouldn’t be allowed to vote for them. The opposition parties could also vote for the other party’s candidate they believed would be easier to beat. Until there’s a viable third party candidate, the best bet is to register in the party closest to your ideology and work to bring it closer to that ideology in actuality.

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Ritty77

Jul-04-13 9:27 AM

I disagree with putting a price tag on political free speech. Let the voters decide who wastes his or her money.

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philunderwood

Jul-04-13 9:28 AM

During the early years of our country, people served as an obligation, not as a career. When Capitalism became crony capitalism professional politicians and their supporters emerged. Ways around any laws passed to try and control political contributions are in place before the laws are even passed. If you don’t like the present system, don’t work to pass ever more foolish laws to try and control it; work to reduce the size of government and to change the system itself.

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philunderwood

Jul-04-13 9:40 AM

Let’s declare independence from our government today.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-04-13 9:56 AM

Oh so now some of you are OK with telling others how they can spend their money in support of candidates.

Please tell us more about how you would protect our freedom.

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MrShaman

Jul-04-13 10:08 AM

"...but in the end the problem with voting at all is the winner is always a politician." - Phil Underwood

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Gee....lemme write-that-one, down!!

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MrShaman

Jul-04-13 10:12 AM

"True, Phil.

"America's current moral decline is directly linked to the fact that we have elected, appointed, and hired too many leaders who have no character"- From the book '12 Ordinary Men'." - mikekerstetter

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AGREED!!!

From:

National ID Series - The Worried Shrimp

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