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Hero or no hero

July 5, 2013

Some in the country call Edward Snowden a hero because of his leaking classified information. Was he? Let us look at some facts. He was a technical assistant for the NSA, (National Security Agenc....

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-05-13 1:50 PM

"If the government is so powerful they would have shut Snowden down."

That was a decision left to the Obama Administration. Obviously he must feel that this man isn't a threat to national security or surely he would have taken swift action. Or would he? It's not like we don't have methods of extracting him. Yea I know, he's trying to avoid an international incident. But in the mean time this joker is hopping around the world making an ass out of U.S. intelligence. Yes, many feel what he revealed regarding the NSA was information the American people needed to know. But the bottom line is what he did is criminal.

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CMReeder

Jul-05-13 12:38 PM

I never said the government was untouchable however others think the government is powerful and can control every aspect of our lives.

If the government is so powerful they would have shut Snowden down.

True patriots face and confront the govenment not run from it.

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JohnZook

Jul-05-13 11:32 AM

Well Wes- Bradley Manning was a plant so George Bush could pass secrets to the Illuminati.

See: "Helter Skelter"- the Beatles- YouTube

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wwhickok

Jul-05-13 11:12 AM

The same way you do on every other topic Sham. You just throw a bunch of words together.

But in reality, logic is your only real answer. Well...not yours so much as it is ours.

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MrShaman

Jul-05-13 10:38 AM

"Had Edward Snowden stayed in the United States and fought the wrongs he felt the government had done, then I would be the first to call him a hero."

Had he stayed he'd be dead by now!" - CarlHiller

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Not KNOWING exactly what data he'd (supposedly) "compromised", how can you make that (sophomoric) "evaluation"?

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wwhickok

Jul-05-13 10:37 AM

To further explain my last comment, Reeder I don't disagree with everything you say, but you really seem to believe that our government is inpenetrable. I'd offer up Snowden and others who have done similar things, as evidence that they are far from untouchable.

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wwhickok

Jul-05-13 10:33 AM

CM I think you're the one with your head in your backside. First of all, do I believe other governments are mining data? I guarantee it.

That's the sort of thing that keeps governments in power. As far Snowden and your arguement that he "would be dead", that's not entirely accurate. History shows that there are some that have found their way 'through the cracks' undetected, until it's too late for the government to prevent it. See that's the thing about governments, they get so obsessed with power, so determined to do one thing, that just occassionally, something out of their view, comes back and bites them in the arse.

Reeder, you're a lot like Sham in that, I hear you 'talk' alot but not very much common sense or simple logic is ever provided.

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MrShaman

Jul-05-13 10:33 AM

"Had Edward Snowden stayed in the United States and fought the wrongs he felt the government had done, then I would be the first to call him a hero." - Ida Temple

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...The same way you describe Bradley Manning, presently, right?

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CMReeder

Jul-05-13 9:09 AM

If you think other governments are not mining data think again you twit.

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CMReeder

Jul-05-13 9:07 AM

Talk about naive!

Get your head out your ass! If they wanted him dead he would be dead. If they want him silenced they would have silenced him. He is neither hero nor traitor. If the government is as powerful as you think, Snowden would have never been able to utter one word against it.

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wwhickok

Jul-05-13 8:47 AM

Reeder you're one of the most naive individuals on these boards, second to only Sham.

Do you really think everything you see in the movies is fiction? Do you really believe it's impossible for someone to escape the grasp of the U.S. NEWSFLASH!!! The U.S. is burning bridges with foreign Countries faster than the citizens of this country can build them. It's about power and the balance of power and The U.S. willing sacrificed millions of lives over the centuries to keep that power, however, I believe other countries are finally getting sick of it.

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CMReeder

Jul-05-13 7:08 AM

If they wanted him dead Carl he would be dead by now. He ran and is looking to enemies of the state to harbor him.

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CarlHiller

Jul-05-13 5:58 AM

"Had Edward Snowden stayed in the United States and fought the wrongs he felt the government had done, then I would be the first to call him a hero." Had he stayed he'd be dead by now! He did what any thinking patriot would do, search out a place that would not unilaterally turn him back to the US so he can continue his fight against a corrupt and illegitimate government.

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wwhickok

Jul-05-13 5:57 AM

He is not a hero, but do you think that he would still be alive and/or free had he stayed here and tried to, as you put it, "fight the wrongs" or uncover them? He's not a hero but I also do not think what he did makes him a bad person. Nor do I think he's trying to destroy the United States. He simply pointed out that our 1st Amendment Rights, our basic Freedoms, they don't truly exist in the way we have believed them to. This country is about control, don't let yourself believe for one moment you are the one in control.

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