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Following God’s statutes

July 9, 2013

Our forefathers came to this continent in search of religious freedom also not be ruled by any other nation. Despite all the blood that has been shed, Revolution Wars, Indian Wars, Civil Wars....

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gavinf56

Jul-09-13 5:19 AM

Really?

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-09-13 5:41 AM

My thoughts exactly Gavin. A couple of the letters today bring that same response.

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Ritty77

Jul-09-13 5:56 AM

Yeah, not a good letter day.

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Brwnhornet59

Jul-09-13 6:00 AM

Religious freedom had nothing to do with why our forefathers founded this Nation. They sought freedom from a tyrannical government plain and simple. Religion has nothing to do with our constitution either. You have the right to believe whatever you choose, simply do not thrust your views on others...

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gavinf56

Jul-09-13 6:06 AM

You know Gunney, I tend to lean toward the right and vote Republican (although I have voted Independent/3rd Party and for the now extinct Blue Dog Democrat), but the first 3 letters today are just a downright embarrassment for the right.

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MrShaman

Jul-09-13 6:14 AM

"Beware, God is watching." - Clarence McHenry

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...'Cause he's (quite) obviously more-competent, at starting Wars, than The DICK; Cheney...without the benefit of cherry-picked intel.

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MrShaman

Jul-09-13 6:17 AM

"...the first 3 letters today are just a downright embarrassment for the right." - gavinf56

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Wait'll Rick Perry takes his George Jr. routine on-the-road!!!!!!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-09-13 6:20 AM

"Our forefathers came to this continent in search of religious freedom also not be ruled by any other nation."

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Initially many were seeking ways to make money through trade and settling land.

Later some of the religious groups in Europe wanted to escape the state-sponsored church and practice their faith more consistent with biblical teachings, as grew out of the reformation.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-09-13 6:22 AM

If this nation was founded by the atheists of today, there would be no religious freedom.

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CMReeder

Jul-09-13 6:23 AM

"....but the first 3 letters today are just a downright embarrassment for the right."

You have not been paying attention to what has been coming out the mouths of GOP representatives in politics and the right wing media.

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CMReeder

Jul-09-13 6:25 AM

"If this nation was founded by the atheists of today, there would be no religious freedom."

The right wing embarrassment is not limited to the letters.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-09-13 6:34 AM

Gavin I totally agree. It reminds of an unnamed person that spouts off on here that is a total embarrassment to the left. Yet they never seem to call him out for his rhetoric. And some wonder why people are abandoning both parties.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-09-13 6:45 AM

Mr. Reeder: You have not been paying attention to what has been coming out the mouths of GOP representatives in politics and the right wing media."

"The right wing embarrassment is not limited to the letters."

Mr. Reeder, I'm sure you have to agree that both the left and right have extreme partisans in their politicians, the media and on this very board. Does anyone here actually approve or get enjoyment out of how divided this nation has become? It really seems like a lot do and the politicians and the media seem to want to keep it that way. Personally it disgusts me. As someone who served this nation proudly, I am sickened at how divided we are.

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CMReeder

Jul-09-13 7:18 AM

"I am sickened at how divided we are."

Yet you feed it. You are not as 'neutral' as you profess.

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nobud74

Jul-09-13 7:31 AM

I find it interesting that so often the very ones who think they tout freedom would have a theocratic based govt. What about the freedom of all the others? Before you spout off about the founding of America and how it was all about religious freedom, do some homework and think for yourself and understand that we have religious freedom. Not freedom from religion, but freedom of religion and a freedom from a govt sponsored or sanctioned religion. Those few words--of, from and sanctioned--make all the difference in the argument.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-09-13 7:41 AM

I never claimed to be neutral Mr. Reeder. I share a number of similar political views with both Republicans and Democrats. I am a registered Independent that got tired of partisan politics. And there are 24 million of us out there and that number is increasing rapidly.

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CMReeder

Jul-09-13 7:59 AM

"Not freedom from religion, but freedom of religion and a freedom from a govt sponsored or sanctioned religion."

Not freedom from to freedom of back to freedom from.

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CMReeder

Jul-09-13 8:05 AM

What makes you think anyone else truly likes the partisan bickering? You going independent has you sidelined nothing more. I stay with one party because I do and want to vote in the primaries. Independents in this state can not. While going independent is a noble gesture you cut yourself off from the process.

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garder54

Jul-09-13 8:13 AM

I'm sure God was pleased when the Japanese were vaporized by one of our "great generals". What is God's opinion on nuclear holocaust?

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-09-13 8:33 AM

Mr. Reeder this is off topic and I apologize to other readers but do you feel that's right that Independents are excluded from voting in primaries in this state? Many are up in arms about voter ID precluding some from voting but what about the 1 million independents in Pa that are locked out of the primaries. We have to keep changing our registration just to be able to vote. The number of independents is growing and elections are often won or loss with our vote.

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wwhickok

Jul-09-13 8:46 AM

Like it or not, we live in a world where we have to live within governed societies. We have to 'live by the rules' of a governed society. It is by those taxes, regulations, and leaders that are 'permitted or not permitted' to do certain things.

Government is watching and no matter what your religion is, in the real world, the Government can make your life a living h*ll or full of greatness, usually the former. Because on Earth it is about power. Here, in real life, we are forced to answer to Government, which often leaves us with more questions.

That's not to say God doesn't matter, it's to say we don't "get what we want" from God. We get things if Government wants us to have them. Like it or not, there is a lot of truth to that.

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spike2

Jul-09-13 9:01 AM

No Erik, atheists do not care at all what others believe(except when a disagreement is started). Christians are bent on conversion.

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SteelerFan

Jul-09-13 9:22 AM

'I'm sure God was pleased when the Japanese were vaporized by one of our "great generals". What is God's opinion on nuclear holocaust?'

Man is given free will. Choosing to drop the 2 bombs on Japan actually saved hundreds of thousands of lives by emiminating a full air, land and sea assault of the Japanese mainland.

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CMReeder

Jul-09-13 11:11 AM

GysgtUSMC, I have voiced many times that independents should be voting in the primaries. I have voiced many times that the primary process needs to be updated. Yes I don't like the Voter ID laws they are discriminatory and badly implemented. It just another way to keep people from voting. Like the independents in the primaries.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-09-13 11:21 AM

I was just asking your stand on the issue Mr. Reeder, thanks. As far as voter ID law, won't the REAL ID Act make this all moot if it is implemented? From what I understood the law was passed in 2005 but implementation has been delayed because states are fighting it and this administration doesn't like it. I could be mistaken.

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