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Pool horseplay requires security presence in Loyalsock Township

July 10, 2013

At their Tuesday evening meeting, Loyalsock Township Parks and Recreation Director Shannon Lukowsky asked the supervisors to hire a security guard for the community pool, because a number of......

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djzlucky

Jul-11-13 9:44 AM

"Surely a suspicious person should be reported to police. That doesn't mean you can shoot them."

Amen, Jerry! All Zimmerman needed to do was sit in his car and wait for the police to arrive. Instead his "Dark Knight" complex kicked in and an innocent young man is dead.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-11-13 8:52 AM

Eric,

Surely a suspicious person should be reported to police. That doesn't mean you can shoot them.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-11-13 8:48 AM

Jerry:

Are you aware that Martin's school found jewelry and burlary tools in his backpack?

Are you aware that several homes in this neighborhood have been the victim of thefts for several months?

Are you aware that the result of these thefts is what led to a community watch being organized?

So, when someone who does not live in the neighborhood is skulking about in the rain, looking into windows, rather than heading straight back to his home, it is suspicious?

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 8:08 PM

So not only do you find that I am not in command of the facts, but that the conclusions I have made based on the facts as I have presented them are faulty as well? Well, my oh my, I must be a fellow of a very special intellect indeed.

Please Josh, tell us of which virtues your community hero have made the greatest impression of you.

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joshb729

Jul-10-13 6:49 PM

If your hygiene is as bad as your logical thinking and reading comprehension ability, then yes, you probably need a bath.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 6:25 PM

Josh, aren't you going to insult my presumed bad hygiene as well?

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joshb729

Jul-10-13 6:22 PM

A person who doesn't know the facts would take that position Jerry. Go back to Rhode Island, and do the world a favor: Don't breed.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 6:19 PM

Josh -

I take it as a great compliment that you believe that I am everything that George Zimmerman is not.

Thank you.

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joshb729

Jul-10-13 6:08 PM

Jerry, You are an idiot who is completely void of the facts of the case. You're embarassing yourself right now by repeating media-driven falsehoods. Watch the case moron. Zimmerman didn't get in anybody's face. He was watching Scumbag from a distance while Scumbag was peering into windows, Scumbag didn't like it, and attacked Zimmerman.

George Zimmerman is a courageous community hero. Everything you aren't.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 6:06 PM

Eric, aren't you the guy that faulted the public at large for being being too sheepish for not charging shooters are mass killings?

Because now you say while walking down our own streets while being followed and harassed by armed people only a few of feet away that we are expected to avoid confrontation.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 5:53 PM

"First, it was Martin who got in Zimmerman's face, not vice versa.

Second, Zimmerman was on doing the right thing.....calling the police and waiting for them to arrive."

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The boy got into Zimmerman's face? While he sat his car? Ohhhhh..... that is news.

Aren't you also "forgetting" to recount how Zimmerman ignored the police instruction to not follow the kid?

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"You have an obligation to prevent a confrontation."

Where in the law does it say this? And, I believe I am correct when I state that following and verbally harassing a person meets the legal definition of confrontation.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-10-13 5:40 PM

Jerry said:

"Following me in your car, then getting out of your car and into my face is not the same, Eric, as "looking at" someone."

First, it was Martin who got in Zimmerman's face, not vice versa.

Second, Zimmerman was on doing the right thing.....calling the police and waiting for them to arrive.

Martin made no attempt to call for help. In fact, the testimony is he kept talking to his mentally challenged girlfriend.

Then Jerry said:

"I have the right to defend myself, as I walk down the street minding my own business."

Absolutely! But not just because someone is following you or even screaming at you.

You have an obligation to prevent a confrontation.

Once physical violence begins, you have a right to defend yourself.

That is exactly what Zimmerman did.

Martin started physical violence and found himself in a situation where a stupid, dope-smoking, thief goes up agaist an armed citizen.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 5:34 PM

So, my daughter is walking down the street and some guy is following her in his car for a while and then he gets out of his car and into my daughter's face...

Eric, what is it you teach YOUR daughter to do in this situation? Politely ask the stalker for an explanation? Run as fast as she can?

I taught MY daughter to scream FIRE and then to make sure the stalker is never able to reproduce.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 5:20 PM

"Why would you blindside and attack another human who did nothing more than look at you?"

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Following me in your car, then getting out of your car and into my face is not the same, Eric, as "looking at" someone.

I have the right to defend myself, as I walk down the street minding my own business.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-10-13 5:18 PM

Zimmerman Case:

If you want your blood to boil, go to the Judicial Watch website and you will see the article how the Department of Justice paid millions in tax dollars to organize the protests against Zimmerman before he was charged with anything.

If there is one loss of life following the Zimmerman acquittal, the blood is on Obama's hands.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-10-13 5:16 PM

Jerry said:

"If someone follows me in his car and then confronts me while I'm walking down the street minding my own business, I'm not going to wait for him to throw the first punch. "

Really?

Under what pretense?

Show me how your life or property is in danger?

What did you do to alert authorities?

Why did you keep talking to your mentally challenged girlfriend?

Why would you blindside and attack another human who did nothing more than look at you?

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Billtown101

Jul-10-13 5:01 PM

Had "Father Dearest" Gabe given more consideration to the needs of his East End community, instead of playing the race card and refusing to budge on things like summer activities and "Funded" transportation for low income families, throwing a typical Gabe temper-tantrum, and siding with the Loyalsock 'snooty-snoots' when they adamantly made it clear- THEY did not WANT undesirables in THEIR Pool... Welp, 'Daddy', here's Another fine mess you've gotten yourself into!

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 4:41 PM

"How do you break the cycle? Do what George Zimmerman did."

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You mean murder an innocent boy walking down the street?

If someone follows me in his car and then confronts me while I'm walking down the street minding my own business, I'm not going to wait for him to throw the first punch.

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LeisureSuitLarry

Jul-10-13 4:33 PM

Ha Ha, good one Jerry. Thankfully Little Philly has no jurisdiction over Loyalsock Township. If Cappelli had his wish several years ago though then maybe, but Loyalsock is still Loyalsock and not Williamsport East. Unfortunately the suburbs have suffered the brunt of the influx over the years as well - they all can't live in Littly Philly after all.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-10-13 4:32 PM

Sad. Alot of communities don't HAVE pools or the funds to maintain and keep them open.There's always a handful of people (and these weren't kids)that have to cause trouble and think only of themselves. It shouldn't be dangerous to take your kids to the pool. They should have been arrested and charged with endangering.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-10-13 4:18 PM

Horseplay at the pool?

Better hope Gabe doesn't find out. Wouldn't want to lose the diving boards for two weeks to teach the community a lesson.

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biobabycj

Jul-10-13 4:15 PM

i always ask the same question when young people are involved. where are the parents. however, no one is perfect and not all peoples kids turn out to be dear godly children that dont dress like thugs and hoochies. girls that wear skin tight dresses up to their hoochie coos in public events... they just look bad, like the parents have let them do that. just like kids that act out, the parents get the rap for the kid knowing how and thinking its okay to fight... dress, act. talk.. it all comes back on wheres the parents.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-10-13 1:26 PM

The failure is that a sentence of guilty no longer punishes and no longer makes the perp want to change his/her ways.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-10-13 1:24 PM

How do you break the cycle?

Do what George Zimmerman did.

Trayvon will not create more Trayvons now.

Let the court system handle it?

Yeah, send Trayvon to jail so he can join a gang, prove himself by murdering someone, then create a life of crime while collecting benefits from taxpayers and breeding children with multiple mothers.

This is what happens today when they run through our court system.

It doesn't matter if the perp is black, white or purple, we have criminals of all colors, genders and sexual orientations.

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joshb729

Jul-10-13 11:43 AM

If Zimmerman wasn't carrying, he would have been pummeled to death by a street thug. There is no law against watching suspicious characters in your neighborhood. Zimmerman should be applauded for having the courage to stand up for his neighbors, something so few of us have. The rest of us just turn a blind eye and look the other way when this crap is going on.

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