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So children are the future?

July 11, 2013

I don't really see a how humanity can survive if reason never has it's day. So I'm assuming this is close to the end not that of the rapture but that of succumbing to the ignorant that believe in i....

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-11-13 4:55 AM

Thats the great thing about living in this country.We all have the choice to believe in whatever we choose- or not. I understand that God doesn't work for you, that is your choice. I don't agree with you but I will not call you ignorant because of your choice.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-11-13 5:04 AM

I respect your choice not to believe, but just because there are those that do, it doesn't make them ignorant. And was it really necessary to throw children in the mix?

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wwhickok

Jul-11-13 6:13 AM

First of all, let's talk about the title of the article because when I read the title I didn't expect what I read in the letter.

Are our children our future? Thank you Captain Obvious, that's how things have always worked and Good Parenting and Strong Education are really the 2 most important factors to developing a good mannered, hard working adult.

As for the whole religious ridicule I took away from the article.. Really?

Listen, I get into heated discussions at times with people about relgion and all that but at the end of the day, I don't care what someone else believes, it's their life, their children, they can believe whatever they want. This is a Free Country, if you have a problem with that don't let the door hit you in the backside on the way out. (free is a very relative term)

I also take some offense to what sounded like the suggestion that if children believe in God they're ignorant.

I'm raising my son to be a good person with good manners, and to

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wwhickok

Jul-11-13 6:15 AM

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understand the meaning of respect. While I have not actively participated in any form of religion for quite some time, a large portion of my family is very faithful. When my son is old enough to understand, he will be introduced to all of it. From there, it is his choice as to whether he follows God or not, it won't make me love him less and it won't make me think less of him.

The fact that you think less of people because they DO believe in something.

It's better to believe in something and/or someone than nothing and no one at all. I'd rather be them than you.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-11-13 6:20 AM

You testify of that you do not know.

"Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God..." --1 Corinthians 6:19

"except that the Holy Spirit solemnly testifies to me..." --Acts 20:23

"And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; ..." --Hebrews 10:15

The Holy Spirit comes to live in believers of Christ and communicates and fellowships with them. You would not expect the Holy Spirit to be in the non-Christian, nor to hear him. He doesn't push his way into people's life; he waits to be invited.

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CMReeder

Jul-11-13 6:44 AM

It is obvious that you all do care what someone else believes.

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MrShaman

Jul-11-13 6:45 AM

"I respect your choice not to believe, but just because there are those that do, it doesn't make them ignorant. And was it really necessary to throw children in the mix?" - GysgtUSMC

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Exactly. With their more-mature attitudes about such things as marriage-equality, "the children" quite-obviously have no patience for fantastical-allusions, like those of End Times.

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CMReeder

Jul-11-13 6:46 AM

So how do you think children are the future if you believe the end is near?

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MrShaman

Jul-11-13 6:53 AM

"While I have not actively participated in any form of religion for quite some time, a large portion of my family is very faithful. When my son is old enough to understand, he will be introduced to all of it." - wwhickok

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When your son is "enough to understand" (i.e. capable of digesting/evaluating all available data), it's gonna be too-late to convince him fairy-tales are (actually) true, anyhow.

You should be commended for your scheduling-efforts!!

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Josh84

Jul-11-13 7:11 AM

MrShaman Jul-11-13 6:53 AM******"When your son is "enough to understand" (i.e. capable of digesting/evaluating all available data), it's gonna be too-late to convince him fairy-tales are (actually) true, anyhow."

i.e. Big Bang Theory

SEE:

"Big Bang Theory Busted By 33 Top Scientists"

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wwhickok

Jul-11-13 7:35 AM

Sham, do yourself a favor and tread carefully when speaking about my son or the way I raise him.

It's going to be too late? First of all, in YOUR opinion they are fairy tales and you're entitled to your opinion.

Furthermore, do you have kids? I hope so, because I really hope you're not offering up an opinion on what a child would or would not understand without actual knowledge of the complexity of raising and teaching a child.

When I say "old enough to understand" I'm simply meaning when he fully grasps complex concepts. I don't know of many 1 year olds that do that. Just sayin'.

@ Reeder, do I care what other people think? Sure, I do care, as in interested. Do I care as in, to call someone ignorant because they believe in religion? No. Not at all.

Big difference there.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-11-13 7:41 AM

"Furthermore, do you have kids? I hope so, because I really hope you're not offering up an opinion on what a child would or would not understand without actual knowledge of the complexity of raising and teaching a child."

Careful wwhickok, I got chastised on here when I made a similar comment.

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spike2

Jul-11-13 8:01 AM

Josh can you cite article re: Big Band somehow. I know M.I.T and Stanford are still committed to this project as well as all the foreign scientists. I f these are not the top 30 scientists in this field i would like to know who are and their credentials. regarding the rest of the letter, I agree with whickok and Gysgt. I never believed my kids were required to believe anything I believe or disbelieve. They have proven capable to decide for themselves.

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wwhickok

Jul-11-13 8:28 AM

Oh I'm not scared, he can chastise me all he wants. Unless you're educated in Education of children or have one, you can't really speak factually on the complexity of raising a child. Don't be confused, I'm not talking about issues that deal with child abuse or worse, I'm simply talking about smartly raising a child and educating them.

If Sham takes exception to the fact I don't want him influencing and/or raising my kids, that's his problem. I'll raise my son the way I feel best and my wife feels best. It's up to us to provide positive influence. Just because I am not as faithful as I once was, doesn't mean I should deny him the opportunity to follow that path if he chooses, but Religion is a complex issue. You can't explain it to a small child who is still learning to understand much simpler discussion. Get a clue Sham.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-11-13 8:41 AM

Liberals see themselves as the only ones who care about children.

If it were not for liberals, conservatives would put their children in coal mines and labor camps.

But while liberals talk so highly of our children, they have no concern that they are spending our children into poverty.

Today's gov't programs benefit people today. The children, who are being asked to pay for this party, see no benefit from today's spending.

In fact, we are consigning them to a lower standard of living because the children will be obligated to spend even more in the future, resulting in less money for themselves.

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enigma

Jul-11-13 9:07 AM

"I don't really see a how humanity can survive if reason never has it's day."

Isn't it ironic that after making this statement, he uses absolutely no reason in the letter, only blind hatred for those he disagrees with. The saddest part is that he will never understand that he is the problem.

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wwhickok

Jul-11-13 9:25 AM

In hoping that you mean what I believe you to mean, I agree with you enigma (Haven't seen you post in awhile), I believe individuals who aren't willing to accept that others don't necessarily share your beliefs and allowing that to be okay, are the problem.

I think there's too much of the whole "you must believe in this" or "you shouldn't believe in that". Everyone should be free to believe what they want or don't want to.

We as individuals don't have to share those beliefs, but imo, we should respect them, at least respect that others have them.

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CMReeder

Jul-11-13 9:33 AM

Yeah Erik you really care about kids.

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CMReeder

Jul-11-13 9:34 AM

So Wes how do children have a future if one thinks that mankinds end is near?

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wwhickok

Jul-11-13 9:37 AM

Well, I for one, don't think the end is near, that doesn't make your question invalid, you'd have to ask the author of this letter.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-11-13 9:53 AM

Isn't it ironic that after making this statement, he uses absolutely no reason in the letter, only blind hatred for those he disagrees with. The saddest part is that he will never understand that he is the problem.

Enigma I'm starting to think Sham wrote this letter.

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WKnapp

Jul-11-13 11:14 AM

Jos 24:15 "And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."

Words of Joshua, son of Nun. No force, no coercion, no threats, just personal choice. None of us knows when our life will end, any more than we know when life in general will end, or by what means for either. I'm not into trying to force anybody to believe what I believe, but I do find it necessary to inform others of what I know to be true. If they believe me, fine. If not, that's OK, too. It becomes their problem, I did my duty.

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WKnapp

Jul-11-13 11:16 AM

"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace – but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

The words of Patrick Henry. Kind of similar to Joshua's words, don't you think?

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CMReeder

Jul-11-13 12:18 PM

"Well, I for one, don't think the end is near, that doesn't make your question invalid, you'd have to ask the author of this letter."

Well you said he was ignorant for even suggesting it.

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CMReeder

Jul-11-13 12:23 PM

"Enigma I'm starting to think Sham wrote this letter."

Actually it is Daniel S. Yoxtheimer. Unless of course you know that Yoxtheimer posts here as MrShaman. But then you have people who are convince it is John Hilfirty. Maybe John is writing and sending letters as Daniel.

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