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Energy park expansion on the way

Supervisors promised open channels of communication

July 11, 2013

PENNSDALE — Muncy Township supervisors held a face-to-face meeting with Lycoming County commissioners and a county planner Wednesday to work out bugs that have arisen in the lines of communication....

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pinecr

Jul-11-13 10:46 AM

so sad for our area

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 1:09 PM

Yea, Jobs. They are a terrible thing for our area. Much better to have everyone on welfare and food stamps instead of working, right?

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 1:24 PM

I'm sorry you feel you were negatively affected by the gas industry, but I know dozens of families that were positively affected and I'm sure there are thousands of others who also reaped the benefit. Whether you want to admit it or not, there are alot of people in this area much better off than they were before these companies got here. This area had become practically void of good paying work. Maybe you want to live in a world with no energy to power your furnace in the winter or AC in the summer, would that make your life better?

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 1:26 PM

Continued from below...

It'd be great if we can magically snap our fingers and have energy out of thin air but it needs to come from somewhere. It's pretty selfish to say "I want my gas and oil to make my life easier but I don't want to see how it's produced."

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CitizenX

Jul-11-13 1:34 PM

JoshB, I don't think it's so much ""I want my gas and oil to make my life easier but I don't want to see how it's produced." as it is the old "not in my backyard syndrome". I'm sure none of the people who whine about the gas industry is doing without air-conditioning, or tv, or heat or anything else that causes all of us to be such energy gluttons. Oh, they all want all the engegy they need, they just want "somebody else" to have any inconvenience it might cause for them to have that energy.

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rick424

Jul-11-13 5:55 PM

"I'm sure none of the people who whine about the gas industry is doing without air-conditioning, or tv, or heat or anything else that causes all of us to be such energy gluttons"

Talk about an old argument

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 5:58 PM

rick424, old but as relevant as the day it was first used. Anyone who uses a computer, tv, air conditioning, oil furnace, and DRIVES A CAR, who criticizes the energy companies are nothing but phony hypocrites. You can disagree all you like but that's the truth. You want energy, you crave energy, you NEED energy to get through your lives but you want it brought up out of someone elses backyard? Phony Baloney Hypocrites.

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rick424

Jul-11-13 6:34 PM

joshb we were led to believe this gas was a stepping stone to renewable energies and a ticket to energy independence. I among many others were duped as all this turned out to be a money maker for the industry. Your argument is an old argument that fossil fuel proponents use all the time and frankly I am tired of it. We all know big oil made sure we do not have a lot of choices. For the record it is not NIMBY for me as I moved out of the area to get away from all this.

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rick424

Jul-11-13 6:35 PM

Oh I forgot all the jobs they promised that really never materialized.

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 6:42 PM

rick424, funny.. I know dozens of people/families who benefitted financially from the gas industry coming here. I'll tell my brother and my sister's husband that they really aren't making money. It's all imaginary.

I know what I'm about to say will be an impossible task for someone like you, but the next time you start up your car or crank up your A/C, try thinking very hard how that happened.

I'm glad you moved. That's your personal choice. Hopefully they don't find evil oil under your new location, or else you'll have to move again right?

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rick424

Jul-11-13 6:54 PM

Sorry Joshb I respectfully disagree. We had chances to move forward but it did not happen. Big oil made sure. I glad your family is making money, that is probably why you have the view point you do. I turned down gas companies offers as I wanted no part of it. When I sold the house the mineral rights went with it. I feel we are making a big mistake in this country by going down this road and I fee PA will be a disaster for future generations. Again I am not NIMBY.

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 7:01 PM

rick424, answer this question and only this question: Where do you want the energy to come from that heats our homes, cools our homes, and runs our vehicles? Where do you suppose it come from?

Or do you support a life where everybody lives off natural resources of their own property?

What is YOUR solution? I hear so many gripes and complaints from your side about this and that, but I hear no solutions!

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rick424

Jul-11-13 7:13 PM

As I said we had chances after the oil embargo of the 70s. The answer is more research and to use the gas as a stepping stone to what is next.

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 7:14 PM

Another side story, I work for an area company that's been around here for 20+ years. We actually had to raise the wage for our entry level position a couple years ago because we were losing so many people to the gas industry, and not getting the numbers of qualified applicants to replace them. I deal with a number of other area companies who have experienced the same thing. This idea that you puff up that there that no jobs have been brought here is absolutely ludicrous on its face.

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 7:16 PM

"As I said we had chances after the oil embargo of the 70s. The answer is more research and to use the gas as a stepping stone to what is next. "

Wow.. If we would have listened to you 40 years ago the world's energy problems would be solved? What f'n planet do you live on?

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joshb729

Jul-11-13 7:18 PM

I guess we're suppose to just suffer in the summer heat, freezing winters, and ride our bike to work until there's a research breakthrough on energy?

You're living in a fantasy world.

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rick424

Jul-11-13 8:22 PM

Maybe so Josh but the unemployment is higher in this area than other areas No I do not live in a fantasy world. People that want to use archaic fuels live in a fantasy world as it will run out someday. Josh I am done here, thank you for your time as I will never change your mind. Maybe the next time, oh and thanks for being civil, doesn't happen often on here.

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