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How is it possible?

July 12, 2013

How is it possible to accumulate over 400 days of unused sick leave when you’ve only been employed by the government entity for seven years? Apparently that’s what Dr....

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idiottwo

Jul-12-13 6:25 AM

UNION.

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CMReeder

Jul-12-13 6:58 AM

If you are interested, Dr. Kelley's contract is posted on the internet by the Altoona Mirror. Just google her full name as it appears in the letter along with /Williamsport and you will see it. The contract is 16 pages long.

I had a supervisor who had accumulated 3 months worth of vacation time and sick leave. He just never took time off. The company never forced him to take it. It wasn't until the company was closing that they told him to use it or he would lose it.

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spike2

Jul-12-13 7:54 AM

Administration is not unionized.

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LaughIn

Jul-12-13 7:57 AM

Teachers are unionized, not Superintendents. What Dr. Kelley received was contractual, and had nothing to do with a union.

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idiottwo

Jul-12-13 7:59 AM

>28 days a year? Seems something is in error - I hope.

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idiottwo

Jul-12-13 8:05 AM

this needs a complete investigation and I'm glad it surfaced. 16 page contact for employment? Imagine making such a request of your employer?

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Garben78

Jul-12-13 8:21 AM

I've been active in the work force since I was 16 and I am now 35 and I've never had a sick day or a paid holiday or have I ever taken a day off for such so I think it's great she gets all this at least I know someone is using my unused days

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garder54

Jul-12-13 8:48 AM

What a bunch of cry babies. These comments sound like a bunch of jealous, uneducated children. Don't like your situation compared to her's? Then become a doctor, negotiate with your employer, and reap the benefits. Also, instead being completely ignorant about the subject and yelling "UNION", as some commenters below feel is appropriate, do some research. This is what is part of what is wrong with this country - people see others are more successful or chose a different (read: better) career path and instead of fixing their own problems, try to bring others down.

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rick424

Jul-12-13 8:52 AM

Where I work I have unlimited sick days. I have used maybe 5 days in the last 27 years. Good for you doctor, enjoy your retirement and pay no attention to those on here. (PS, I am not union and it is not a public institution, just a place that cares about their workers.)

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CMReeder

Jul-12-13 10:14 AM

She was district supervisor for the district, not unusual for a high salary position to have a contract. Did you really think that all a person in a top position fills out an application form. It is negotiated followed by an agreed upon contract in writing.

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CMReeder

Jul-12-13 10:23 AM

I've been active in the work force since I was 16 and I am now 35 and "I've never had a sick day or a paid holiday or have I ever taken a day off for such so I think it's great she gets all this at least I know someone is using my unused days"

Dr. Kelley is getting her unused days not yours. The ones negotiated in her contract and past contracts. They are her unused days. Most places I worked if you did not use vacation days before a a certain date in the new year you either lost them or was paid them. Not many employers let you accumulate days to take off. But then that is the low level employees that is if they even get vacation days.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-12-13 10:53 AM

What you are reading is some people's frustration of the school district and the high cost of school taxes. Right or wrong some people are fed up.

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LaughIn

Jul-12-13 11:37 AM

Reads to me like garder54 has a problem with others frustrations? (Reality: local school tax hikes are due to high wages in state ran public schools) I could be wrong, but isn't "cry babies" pushing a better description of concerned citizens? GysgtUSMC is right in his assessment, some people are fed up.

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wwhickok

Jul-12-13 11:39 AM

School Taxes, that's why everyone's ticked off. Every year they shut a school down, every year our school taxes go up at least once, sometimes twice.

Our education budgets continue to get cut even though it's costing US more money. That's the only reason this is such an issue.

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LaughIn

Jul-12-13 12:10 PM

Just so my last comment doesn't come off ringing of jealousy or that from an uneducated child, I collect from PSERS. The only difference is that my pension started years ago and it is not comparable to todays retirees. We need to live within our means and make adjustments to what everyone can afford locally. If the tax base is declining and the enrollment numbers are declining, then consolidate. Why doesn't this help? State mandates required by locally funded tax dollars to see carried through. Rely on local funding and you will see more taxpayers paying close attention to salaries of all public school employees.

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rmiller

Jul-12-13 3:12 PM

School taxes go up, education doesn't. The NEA is the steward with your annual property tax raise. How is it doing?

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enigma

Jul-12-13 3:27 PM

Administrators are not unionized, correct, but high union salaries drive higher administration salaries. After all, nearly all administrators were once teachers. That leads us to another problem which is the conflict of interest in having a union teacher who becomes an administrator because of union recommendations, negotiating the union contracts. It should be illegal and probably is on some level. That said, it is stupid to pay someone for sick time they didn't use.

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CMReeder

Jul-12-13 5:12 PM

When I was going to school people were complaining about schools and taxes they had to pay for a public education. I started back in the mid 50s. They complained about it before that, it has not changed, the complaining that is.

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enigma

Jul-12-13 5:18 PM

radioactive, I'd gladly give the classroom back to the teachers. I didn't take it away. It was legislation backed by the teachers' union. That's right, the teachers tied their own hands and then complain about it. You would think that people who consider themselves to be education professionals would be smarter than that.

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CMReeder

Jul-12-13 5:37 PM

LOL

More blame the teachers,

LOL

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LaughIn

Jul-12-13 10:30 PM

Radioactive, if you do your research accurately, you will find that both are the problem currently. Tug of war, power struggle, the state wants rid of controlling unions due to pension issues, some teachers want NO PART of the union, etc. Yes, what a fine mess education has become in my last 70+ years. Get back to the basics and move on.

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USABorn

Jul-13-13 4:01 AM

Taxpayers cannot support the expectations set by PUBLI SECTOR unions. That failure is now completely obvious and must be reversed before it bankrupts our entire government. Government unions did not always exist. It was FDR that warned us about them in 1937.

“Meticulous attention,” Roosevelt insisted, “should be paid to the special relations and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government….The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.“

So, how did we get government unions?

At the federal level, government unions came to being as a result of President Kennedy’s 1962 Executive Order 10988. Unions in the federal government were created not by law but by Executive Order.

We have arrived at a place where the cost of those unions followed by a recession where funds are short in the private sector, have finally come to a point nobody can afford!

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CMReeder

Jul-13-13 7:22 AM

You mean conservatives can not support it.

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rmiller

Jul-15-13 7:23 AM

radioactive,

" Give me back my classroom, time to teach, students that are held accountable, parents that support me, and I'll send you scholars. "

Fair enough, give us back your union dues supplemented by higher taxes), get rid of your back (union) and strike it out on your own merits, (you know..something called job performance) and give back your paid federal holidays, compensation for sick days, all federal holidays, summers off and sabbaticals. If we can recoup what our losses are, and hold you accountable for "scholars produced due to your job done the right way).....we'll talk.

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rmiller

Jul-15-13 5:23 PM

radioactive,

We can engage in a civil conversation, or you can espouse your "intellectual" discourse in attempts to impress the "uneducated" section of the population.

190 days? Ask the Wal-Mart, factory line, every day schmoe who works the remainder of the year if they empathize with you.

Public education has deteriorated since govt. intervention, period. Oh... that you could have "your classroom back."

My son? Since you brought him into the picture, please submit the factual events about why he was TAKEN OUT OF SCHOOL, and not "couldn't make it." Clearly, you know the truth, so why present a false premise?

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