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July 13, 2013

Landlords pay a large portion of the taxes, yet, because we do not live in the city, we have no say in how our taxes are spent. We can‘t vote or be on committees....

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CarlHiller

Jul-13-13 6:52 AM

"Landlords pay a large portion of the taxes, yet, because we do not live in the city, we have no say in how our taxes are spent. We can't vote or be on committees." Nor should you have that ability. If you want a say then move to the locality in question. If you own property in Florida and have to pay the taxes there, yet are not a citizen of the state, why should you get a say in anything they do with the taxpayers money?

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sideliner

Jul-13-13 7:19 AM

I am not on board with the registration of tenants. It seems to me, at least on the surface, an extreme invasion of privacy. But maybe I'm just not "getting it." Am willing to listen and investigate the payoff for the trade off.

But this is a slippery slope and I can't help but think of where the trade off for the pay off of the Patriot Act got us...

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CMReeder

Jul-13-13 8:04 AM

You own investment property in the area and don't live here yet want to be able to enact policy for those who do live here.

Can the residents here have a say in the policies where you live?

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CMReeder

Jul-13-13 8:05 AM

Maybe you should consider selling if you think williamsport has become a questionable or bad investment.

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eriklatranyi

Jul-13-13 8:20 AM

Perhaps, part of the problem is not involving propety owners in addressing the problems with bad tennants.

But since most of the bad tennants receive subsidized housing, it is easy to figure out the solution.

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CMReeder

Jul-13-13 9:02 AM

Only those who gets subsidies are bad people. I see you are still a jerk.

How does an absentee landlord get involved with their tenants?

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Fredzz

Jul-13-13 9:22 AM

"" Landlords pay a large portion of the taxes, ""

Mim Logue,

If you are running your business like a business you are not paying the Property Taxes.

Property Tax is a cost of doing business and is a part of the calculations too set the Rate for each rental unit. You are collecting the tax money from your tenants and forwarding to the Tax authority. Also time and cost of managing the payment of the Rental property Tax is an additional cost of doing business and included in your rent calculation.

Your tenants LIVE in the homes and have a say at city hall. Not you.

Just me, thinking out laud with my finger- tips way to close to the Keyboard..!

I could be wrong.... and it would not be the first time.

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Fredzz

Jul-13-13 12:03 PM

Bobbie2,

I don't see the connection..?

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Fredzz

Jul-13-13 12:12 PM

Bobbie2

Who is " obumbler "..?

I don't know anyone by that name.

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enigma

Jul-13-13 1:28 PM

Mim, If you want to vote in Williamsport, live there. If you just want to make money in Williamsport then deal with the laws and taxes they impose. I have no problem with people doing business where they don't live, but I do have a problem with people who don't live in a place wanting to run it. If it becomes too burdensome, then sell the properties and buy property in an area more to your liking.

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CitizenX

Jul-13-13 2:26 PM

My immediate reaction upon reading this LTE was the same as many others: if you are unhappy with circumstances, why not either live where you own property or own property where you live? Enigma said it quite well.

Maybe you could even live in one of the properties you currently rent out? Or is it that your rentals are not the kinds of places you would want to live in yourself?

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MimLogue

Jul-13-13 8:56 PM

So the people who invest the most sweat and money over there should just keep their mouth shut and go with the program? That"s really working? Same suits just different faces on the front page of the sun telling us the same thing 10 years later. Oh yeah!! things will get better when we all register tenants & I can vote. Ty what a think tank!!

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MimLogue

Jul-13-13 9:09 PM

How many of my tenants vote? How many even know who the mayor is OR EVEN cares?? 35,000 PEOPLE MAYBE 12,000 VOTE. Now mayor wants to register tenants, heck the water authority cant even register them.

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MimLogue

Jul-13-13 9:14 PM

We are having a meeting 7pm at Sechler room, city hall; Wednesday night July 17th to discuss tenant registration. All renters should really consider being there , enter thru the rear.

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mikekerstetter

Jul-14-13 4:01 AM

Same ol' same ol'. Water authority blah blah blah, water authority blah, blah, blah. Stuck with tenants water bills, blah blah blah......... LOL. I knew who the letter was from as soon as I started reading it.

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MimLogue

Jul-14-13 6:22 AM

Just paid a 500$ water bill left by a tenant, talked to another landlord who got a 1,000$ bill.This is money we could be buying improvements to our buildings, instead we are flushing good money down the drain because of your water authority policy . Blah blah blah Mike, Its your crappy city"s policy and apparently you want it to remain that way blah blah blah Mike.

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CarlHiller

Jul-14-13 7:03 AM

enigma - I agree if the landlord wants a vote, move there. Being a landlord is nothing more than being a business owner. You may own a business in Williamsport and live in say, Muncy, you pay certain taxes here and there, but have no real voice in the doings of your business locality, yet you do in your home locality. Why should you have a voice in both?

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jjs8282

Jul-14-13 9:14 AM

You vote where you live not where you work and/or own property or have a business. You do have to pay taxes. That's how its always been and always will. Don't like it then sell the property or move there yourself. Everyone who owns property knows this and if you don't then your head has been under a rock. If landlords don't like who they rent to, maybe they should do a better background check and application on them.

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CHayes

Jul-14-13 9:51 AM

" The water authority is out of control, supposed to be an arm of the city, but operates totally without the interest of the city."

Are you referring to the "Lycoming County Sewer and Water Authority"?

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mikekerstetter

Jul-14-13 3:12 PM

Mim, I don't live in the City. Don't have a water or sewer bill. But if I WAS a landlord that was continually stuck with water bills, I would raise my rent and include the water and sewer in with the rent. You've been given that advice many times by several different people right here on these pages. Most people learn by their past mistakes. Apparently you aren't one of those people.

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MimLogue

Jul-14-13 6:29 PM

Mike you and your enema think toilet tank haven"t a clue but u suggest all landlords should pay all the water bills and let the tenants use as much as they want?? Theres a solution I havent thought of!! thanks again!! I"ll get right on that!!

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MimLogue

Jul-14-13 6:33 PM

Should I pay their electric and gas bills too and include that in the rent??

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MimLogue

Jul-14-13 6:35 PM

Should I throw in cable and phone ?? How about food ?? maybe I can provide transportation also??

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MimLogue

Jul-14-13 6:42 PM

Why dont you pay all the tenants water bills and then go get it from them, good luck with that, I know why speal your mouth because you admit u pay no bills?? Get stuck with someone elses rent or water bill and then we"ll talk until then you are a first grader.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-14-13 8:58 PM

I'm sorry but I have to agree with Mim.. this policy needs to be changed and tenants need to be held responsible for their water/sewage bill just like they are for any other utility that they use. This policy is outdated and applied back when most rent included water/sewage. I don't know if you've noticed but water/sewage charges have increased drastically in the last few years due to Chesapeake Bay cleanup regulations and landlords can no longer afford to include these utilities in the rent. Everyone is already up in arms about rent rates in the area. And the fact is, if tenants know they get "free" water/sewage, they are not going to be concerned about conservation. The policy needs to be updated now that most tenants do not get water and sewage included in order to hold them responsible. No different than electricity, cable and phone.

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