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A needed Supreme Court ruling

July 15, 2013

The U S Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Same Sex unions or whatever you want to call it. The Supreme Court needs to consider a change of one of the Ten Commandments....

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JohnMBower

Jul-15-13 5:45 AM

Seriously?

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 6:12 AM

"Seriously?" - JohnMBower

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I think Mr. Kovich was (merely) referencing what The Good Book says, in:

Exodus 21:15 * Proverbs 20:20 * Leviticus 20:9

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JohnMBower

Jul-15-13 6:31 AM

I understood the reference, but I was amazed at his lack of understanding of the role and jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-15-13 6:41 AM

""I think Mr. Kovich was (merely) referencing what The Good Book says, in: Exodus 21:15 * Proverbs 20:20 * Leviticus 20:9"--Mr Shaman

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Some of these stoning offenses were applicable for the Israelites thousands of years ago but were not applicable after the new covenant was rolled out with Jesus Christ. see the story where the adulterous woman was not stoned; Jesus let her go.

The introduction to one of the chapters that you referenced........"Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “You shall also say to the sons of Israel:....."--Leviticus 20:1-2

Need to keep your stuff in context. Or maybe your atheist sources need to do some contextual resourcing.

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JohnMBower

Jul-15-13 7:07 AM

Should we expect the Supreme Court to take *all* of the crazy ramblings of the bible and turn them into laws? How about Deuteronomy 25:11-12? Football would of course be illegal: Leviticus 11:8 Divorce is obviously worse than homosexuality: Mark 10:9 Working on the Sabbath would be illegal, too: Exodus 20:8-10 We'd have to build a whole lot of jails for those people who trim their beards or wear blended fabrics, too. Who's gonna pay for that?

Leviticus is cited as the usual reference for god's supposed opposition to homosexuality, but have you actually *read* Leviticus? Are all of the things in there laws that you expect us to follow? I hope not, because I really do like lobster and would hate to be jailed for eating it: Leviticus 11:10

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JohnMBower

Jul-15-13 7:19 AM

@ToTexas - Mr. Kovich was asking for the Supreme Court to enforce the laws of the bible. You do realize that we have 3 Jewish justices on the Supreme Court, don't you? That would mean that we must enforce the Old Testament as well.

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JohnMBower

Jul-15-13 7:44 AM

Also, @ToTexas, our good friend Jesus was unambiguous on the fact that *all* of the laws of the Old Testament still apply:

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19)

Read through that a couple of times and tell me where Jesus said we can pick and choose the laws that we get to live by? Would you really like to live in a country that enforces religious rules as law? Saudi Arabia might be a good choice for you, then.

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CMReeder

Jul-15-13 8:00 AM

"....but I was amazed at his lack of understanding of the role and jurisdiction of the Supreme Court."

Some people can not separate church and state at all. They think of them as one and the same.

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 8:31 AM

"I think Mr. Kovich was (merely) referencing what The Good Book says, in: Exodus 21:15 * Proverbs 20:20 * Leviticus 20:9"--Mr Shaman

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Some of these stoning offenses were applicable for the Israelites thousands of years ago but were not applicable after the new covenant was rolled out with Jesus Christ." - ToTEXASfromPA

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh...so, you're saying Jesus was an agent of CHANGE, huh....what present-day Libs/Progressives would refer-to as a community-organizer, huh??

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 8:34 AM

"Should we expect the Supreme Court to take *all* of the crazy ramblings of the bible and turn them into laws?" - JohnMBower

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That'd be "kind" o' difficult.

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See:

Biblical Contradictions

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philunderwood

Jul-15-13 8:36 AM

Laws based upon any religious interpretation are only meaningful to believers in that religion unless you live in a theocracy that enforces those laws. That’s not the case in America.

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enoughalready

Jul-15-13 8:46 AM

Seriously? Are there that many people who slept thru Civics class? It amazes me how many people think the Ten Commandments are part of the Constitution.... SMH

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AmericanCitizen

Jul-15-13 8:53 AM

If we are going to enforce the Ten Commandments as legal statutes, surely we should also be enforcing the PUNISHMENTS God requires for breaking those commandments, should we not? (Hint: the punishment for 7 out of the 10 is "death.")

And what of the rest of the commandments? You all do realize there are over 600 of them, not just those first ten, right?

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JohnMBower

Jul-15-13 8:59 AM

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” ? George Washington

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pinecr

Jul-15-13 9:14 AM

So true writer....indeed a sick society we are living in.

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pinecr

Jul-15-13 9:15 AM

Yes indeed, lets enforce the punishments..I have no problem with that...maybe then we will get back on track as to the kind of society we should be living in and not what we are becoming...sick, sick, sick!

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spike2

Jul-15-13 9:29 AM

When should we start sending men to jail for "coveting thy neighbors wife?"I don't think the meaning is your next door neighbor. If you choose to be more "modern" we can include husbands. How do we really feel about this commandment? Talk about prison overcrowding. I imagine a "law" re: this one!

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AmericanCitizen

Jul-15-13 10:36 AM

I have a friend who is an EMT and occasionally has to work on the Sabbath. Am I morally obliged to kill him myself or can I try to drum up a crowd and have a good old-fashioned stoning?

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Garben78

Jul-15-13 11:18 AM

Their has to be something in the book about gay marriage as it seems I read almost weekly about a priest molesting a boy

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CMReeder

Jul-15-13 12:00 PM

It is not the friend who breaks the sabbath but his employer.

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 12:09 PM

"If we are going to enforce the Ten Commandments as legal statutes, surely we should also be enforcing the PUNISHMENTS God requires for breaking those commandments, should we not? (Hint: the punishment for 7 out of the 10 is "death.")

And what of the rest of the commandments? You all do realize there are over 600 of them, not just those first ten, right?" - AmericanCitizen

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That's why the abridged version (of them) makes so-much-more sense....and, much easier to remember!!

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See:

George Carlin - 10 Commandments (YouTube)

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 12:29 PM

Their has to be something in the book about gay marriage as it seems I read almost weekly about a priest molesting a boy." - Garben78

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Priests? Gay?? Hardly.

They're merely one MORE herd o' people who've chosen to live an unnatural/repressive-lifestyle, and feel they've got some kind o' "divine right" to share their madness/insanity with others.

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AmericanCitizen

Jul-15-13 12:44 PM

CMReeder - "It is not the friend who breaks the sabbath but his employer."

Whatever, as long as I get to smite somebody.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-15-13 1:06 PM

"Mr. Kovich was asking for the Supreme Court to enforce the laws of the bible."--JohnMBower

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I thought the author of the LTE was trying to change the Ten Commandments that were carved into stone 3500+ years ago, twice. :-)

I didn't say that we should have a theocracy. Our laws are based on the moral law, the natural law, the unalienable rights that are written in mankind's mind/heart and were initially placed there prior to the Israelites receiving the Ten Commandments and some hundreds and hundreds of Levitical laws.

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CMReeder

Jul-15-13 1:27 PM

The writer says the Court after ruling on same sex marriage needs to change the a Part of the Ten Commandments. The Supreme Court can't do that, they can only rule on the laws formulated by man.

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