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Prison for the few

July 15, 2013

The Feds managed to convict and jail a local IRS cheat, according to the recent article....

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CMReeder

Jul-16-13 10:49 AM

It is not a scheme, it is legal according to the way the tax laws are written. The recent IRS audit uncovered it. The IRS hand's are tied in denying the claims. It is being done through the Earned Income Tax Credit.

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spike2

Jul-15-13 2:22 PM

Gysgt - I don't have a problem with border control, not at all. I agree as to drugs, that will cause more patrols at literally thousands of ways to enter, from the coasts to Canada.Frankly, I don't believe this will change employment at all. Where are the actual people who applied for these jobs, had no record to disqualify them, passed a urine screen and were rejected? i notice the wording is "potential", so none exists now?

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 2:10 PM

So, I'm guessing your definition of a free nation is opening up all the borders and allowing everyone in and increasing government and spending to provide a life in America for anyone that wants it.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 2:05 PM

Mr. Reeder I never said it did. Read my earlier post again. I stated that some are willing to give up freedoms in order to feel safe yet they have no problem allowing the borders to be unsecure. In other words, go ahead and mine my personal data so I feel safe but don't worry about the ease of entry to our north and south for anyone that wants to do us harm. It doesn't make sense.

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CMReeder

Jul-15-13 1:36 PM

That does not make you a free nation.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 1:29 PM

Spike my only main concern is securing our borders. The fact that we have an estimated 500k people breaching our borders annually should bring pause to everyone that is concerned about those that want to do us harm. They spend hundreds of millions of dollars on counter terrorism, yet you need to look no further than the south and the north to realize how soft our borders are. You fly into this country, you have to pass thru customs and immigration, yet we have hundreds of thousands of people and billions of dollars in drugs easily passing thru undetected.

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 12:45 PM

Do we have any people who will say, "hey, I applied for that clerk job and they hired an illegal?" - spike2

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I'm guessing most o' those folks are still whining about Obama "jumping in line" (ahead of them), prior to the 2008 Presidential Election.

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 12:38 PM

"The reason many Americans don’t want to do these jobs is because undocumented laborers do them for a lot less pay than Americans would want to do them." - philunderwood

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...More-commonly-referred-to as "Allowing The Marketplace To Regulate Itself".

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 12:35 PM

"most of the significant population centers for "blacks" are cities. Not all but the majority. i will disagree with whoever these "leaders" may be. These kids can't get to the farms or fields." - spike2

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It's gotta be a result of them experiencing how deadly, it can be, living around too-many trees.

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See:

Musarium: Without Sanctuary

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CMReeder

Jul-15-13 12:13 PM

How is focusing so much on securing the borders makes us a free nation?

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spike2

Jul-15-13 12:12 PM

have all these businesses that are hiring illegals show us that folks applied but an immigrant was hired. Do we have any people who will say, "hey, I applied for that clerk job and they hired an illegal?" I just want some hard facts by job seekers and employers, not folks standing on the sidelines who have an agenda. (I don't mean you).

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Garben78

Jul-15-13 11:32 AM

I heard nothing of the local paying back restitution sounds like that scum bag carp made a nice paycheck

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philunderwood

Jul-15-13 10:16 AM

The reason many Americans don’t want to do these jobs is because undocumented laborers do them for a lot less pay than Americans would want to do them.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 10:10 AM

Spike, undocumented workers shouldn't be stereo typed as strictly farm workers. The illegal immigration problem is no longer restricted to areas in the southwest. New York City and many other major cities across the nation have a huge influx of these immigrants and they are filling a lot of low paying non skilled jobs that could otherwise be available to unemployed people of all races. To say that these illegals are just filling jobs Americans don't want is just not true anymore. The problem is far more wide spread and too many businesses are using this undocumented labor.

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spike2

Jul-15-13 9:32 AM

most of the significant population centers for "blacks" are cities. Not all but the majority. i will disagree with whoever these "leaders" may be. These kids can't get to the farms or fields. Red herring.

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 9:22 AM

"Recognizing the effect amnesty of 12 million illegal aliens has on jobs in the black community, BALA has scheduled a protest march to the Capitol in DC on July 15th. BALA hopes to bring attention to the sky-high unemployment rate in the black community and the disastrous effect the proposed immigration legislation would have on the jobs market." - GysgtUSMC

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Gee...how "odd" that same "news"-site (ROF News Agency) also has an article, titled "Bachmann Named Spokeswoman for Schizophrenia Medication".

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 9:05 AM

"Washington Post: Undocumented workers got billions from IRS in tax credits, audit finds Date: 9/2/2011" - GysgtUSMC

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"Clarification to the law is needed to address whether or not refundable tax credits such as the ACTC may be paid to those who are not authorized to work in the United States."

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I guess Congress was too "preoccupied" with keeping Gay-people from getting married...you know, doing "God's work".

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 9:04 AM

Spike I am just stating the concerns that black leadership has about granting amnesty and the effect it will have on the black community.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 9:02 AM

Recognizing the effect amnesty of 12 million illegal aliens has on jobs in the black community, BALA has scheduled a protest march to the Capitol in DC on July 15th. BALA hopes to bring attention to the sky-high unemployment rate in the black community and the disastrous effect the proposed immigration legislation would have on the jobs market.

A letter from the BALA to Congress reads:

We write to express our serious concerns with Senate Bill 744. Given the fact that more than 13% of all blacks are unemployed – nearly double that of the national average, it is our position that each Member of Congress must consider the disastrous effects that Senate Bill 744 would have on low skill workers of all races, while paying particular attention to the potential harm to African Americans.

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spike2

Jul-15-13 8:57 AM

Whoa Gysgt, we usually agree. You want young "blacks" to pick fruit? i wouldn't be shocked if you were inclusive and said young people. I think young Caucasian kids can do the same back-breaking labor. In fact, if you go that route, why not do it as a "public good" job and allow them to get educational breaks, whether in college or a trade. Find me any kid in the U.S. who wants essentially migrant jobs. As far as Congress, those clowns are just that. Barnum and Bailey. All of us should agree to just vote them out. No one can be worse.

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 8:57 AM

Mr. Reeder you state that it is still the land of the free yet liberals feel that in order to feel safe, it's ok to give up some of our freedoms. And out of the same mouth they say the heck with securing our borders, let's let anyone in and grant them amnesty." - GysgtUSMC

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You surely-do have an overactive-imagination.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 8:56 AM

Washington Post: Undocumented workers got billions from IRS in tax credits, audit finds Date: 9/2/2011

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 8:47 AM

Mr Reeder I never made that assumption. What I am saying is that a great percentage of the ones that do work are unskilled low wage earners." - GysgtUSMC

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Yeah...they "only" pick MOST of our produce, and butcher MOST of our (corporate-"farm" raised) meat!!!

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 8:42 AM

"I don't understand how this on the left are under the impression that amnesty will broaden the tax base and bring in more federal tax dollars." - GysgtUSMC

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That's pretty-much because you "conservatives" (actually) think LESS tax-dollars "magically" turn-into increased-revenue.

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MrShaman

Jul-15-13 8:38 AM

I found a Washington Post article from 2011 that states "the Internal Revenue Service allowed undocumented workers to collect $4.2 billion in refundable tax credits last year, a new audit says, almost quadruple the sum five years ago." - CaveFelem

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What's the title of that article??

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