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Decade of decay

No transportation reform will create more wrecked roads

July 14, 2013

The absence of transportation reform has left a gaping hole — and in this case, literally. “Roads and bridges are falling apart,” said state Rep. Garth Everett, R-Munc....

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-14-13 5:07 AM

Now here are a few facts this article didn't cover, the cost to us:

Gas prices will increase about 28.5 cents a gallon.

License fees from $29.50 for four years to $50.50 for six years.

Vehicle registration fees would go up from $36 per year to $104 for two years.

The bill would also slap a $100 surcharge on each moving violation.

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Premier

Jul-14-13 6:17 AM

I would like to see an accounting of all gas and diesel taxes plus vehicle registration costs that have been collected and where that money goes.

I just did some quick math and figured my small contracting business consisting of 2 diesel pickups and 3 trailers altogether pays well over $2200 a year in taxes and registration fees. This money is suppose to go for road repair.

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CarlHiller

Jul-14-13 6:45 AM

Here are a few more facts we already spend more per mile of roadway and bridges than 39 other states. We spend nearly $9 billion per year, over $70000 per mile. It is not a matter of more money it is a matter of prioritizing and efficiency of spending. Promoting a $2.5 billion transportation funding package,on top of the nearly $9 billion already being spent raises a question worth asking, why does Pennsylvania need all that new cash for roads and bridges? "There's just not money to do anything significant is the message here," Murawski said. What's really significant is the fact that like the US Congress, we have way too many big government vultures in both parties. The money is already there.

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Zippie

Jul-14-13 7:55 AM

To Premier:

You spend about $2200.00 per year. But, how much is eaten by "paper work" and "wages" before supplies are bought to fix and repair?

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Zippie

Jul-14-13 7:55 AM

To Premier:

You spend about $2200.00 per year. But, how much is eaten by "paper work" and "wages" before supplies are bought to fix and repair?

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eriklatranyi

Jul-14-13 8:04 AM

Eliminate "prevailing wage" laws so non-union wages can be paid for construction and repairs rather than PennDOT's inflated wage rates that start over $25 per hour for a general laborer (unskilled).

Secondly, I would examing the lifespan of Pennsylvania roads & bridges versus those of other states to see if PennDOT's engineering is delivering bridge & road designs that last or are inferior to states with similar climates.

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Premier

Jul-14-13 8:19 AM

Zippie, I don't get your question. Paperwork and wages are not figured separately from any spending bill.

The state takes in roughly 5.8 billion a year from gas tax and vehicle registration cost and that does not include the federal tax the Feds collect for the interstate system.

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rick424

Jul-14-13 10:40 AM

ACT 13

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BornHere

Jul-14-13 11:36 AM

AGREED, rick!!

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-14-13 12:22 PM

Come on Rick, Pa road conditions have been some of the worst in the nation long before the gas industry. This state has among the highest gas tax and once this legislation passes it will have the highest gas taxes in the nation. We need to start seeing a return our investment. I understand your frustration with the gas industry, but throwing blame for every situation does not help your cause.

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Zippie

Jul-14-13 12:22 PM

Of the money collected for road repair, etc., how much is used to actually by materials vs. labor costs?

Say a bridge will cost $2 million. Of that, how much is labor?

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BornHere

Jul-14-13 12:56 PM

A portion of the ACT 13 Impact Fee was suppose to go to Highway Bridge Improvement and Construction and maintenance and repair of roads.

I'm curious why none of that money is being used for the purpose it was intended for.

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jeff33

Jul-14-13 1:38 PM

Its the Gas Industry!

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Premier

Jul-14-13 2:32 PM

Zippie, I still don't get what your trying to say. If a bridge cost 2 million it cost 2 million, no one is going to build it for free. You have to fund the entire thing or it doesn't get done.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-14-13 2:52 PM

Yes Act 13 monies should be used for this. Instead, it became a bucket of money that the sharks were circling around and using if for less important items.

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Premier, concerning the cost of a bridge, it depends upon how much over design the engineers put into it. Since an engineering firm has to stamp the drawings, they many times build in "worst case" and over design them which drives up costs. If some of these bridges have lasted 50+ years, then they ought to be able to go back with something comparable. Or for some of the smaller ones that cross narrow stream, there should be some "off the shelf" standard designs that don't require all the engineering stamped drawings. For the bigger, more complex ones, they can go through more detailed geotechnical borings and then make stamped engineering designs for them.

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thepaycheck

Jul-14-13 6:03 PM

Rick, I use to respect ur opinions. I disagreed, but respected them BC u seemed informed and genuinely concerned. Not any more. Ur just another leach. U hate the gas companies but u want to bleed them dry.

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Premier

Jul-14-13 7:15 PM

I would rather drive across an over designed bridge than on that just meet engineering standards. Everything that I build in the construction field is over built and believe me people don't mind spending the money for piece of mind.

BTW this was about finding revenue to repair our highway, I would like to see an accounting of all the money that is SUPPOSE to go strictly for this upkeep. There was never a shortage before and highway spending since like "95" is up over 150%.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-14-13 8:20 PM

I have a question for all that are anti gas industry. If all of you have been negatively effected by the industry in some way, and there seems to be so many that seem to be, if you have all your facts that you claim to have of wrong doing, then why not a class action law suit against the industry? I'm not try to be smug. But what I am saying is everything you are doing now as far as voicing your hate for the industry and throwing out facts concerning regulation abuses, is not affecting the industry in any way. Why not take them to court? It seems this industry is negatively effecting so many people's lives yet no one is doing much of anything except talking. I'm just wondering what you are trying to accomplish.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-14-13 8:29 PM

I guess my point is, your fight should be with government, not the industry. If in fact these companies are side stepping regulations that are in place then it's the government agencies responsible for overseeing the industry and allowing it to continue, that shares just as much blame. A lot of anti gas industry folks are in fact big government liberals, and this is the very same bloated government that is turning their backs to your demands for change.

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rick424

Jul-14-13 8:45 PM

"then why not a class action law suit against the industry?"

Now that is funny. Could you imagine suing the gas industry? Good luck on that one.

Sorry to disappoint you thepaycheck, but ACT 13 is and always has been a joke. 1 million bucks for the airport, come on. Our politicians are so clueless.

Remember folks, I am not NIMBY anymore.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-14-13 9:21 PM

Rick that was kinda my point, you're going to get nowhere going after the gas industry so placing your hate and discontent towards them is useless. Your energy should be placed upon government by organizing and letting your leaders know that their job is in jeopardy if changes aren't made. I will be the first to support that effort but I'm not going to sit back and constantly complain and moan about the industry when I know it's useless and I know the focus should be on the regulators.

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Zippie

Jul-14-13 10:07 PM

Try this ... replace my idea with the transportation one.

The Red Cross takes in millions in fund raising and donations. Not anywhere near that amount goes into helping those in need. The "Big Wigs" skim their cut off the top. Operating expenses eats another big chunk. What's left goes to help those in need.

So what I was getting at is that after the government gets their cut, what's left for the roads and bridges?

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Premier

Jul-15-13 5:27 AM

So if I go to the grocery store and buy a .99 can of string beans I should only pay .19 because that's all they are worth if I were to go to the farm and pick them? The laborers who picked them, the truck driver who delivered them, the people who processed them, the ware house people who stored them, the store who sold them and the clerk who stocked them should get nothing?

Hmmm........

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Zippie

Jul-15-13 8:52 AM

Why don't we have more to fix the roads and bridges? Where did all that money go?

OK. I make $345 a week working. I figure that I have this to live on ... but wait. The gov gets their part, the health people theirs, the school kids too. after all is said and done, I end up with abou $225 to purchace what a need and use to live on.

So it shows that PennDOT may take in millions but not all that is there to fix what needs fixing.

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