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Memorial Pool closing controversy hot issue for some

July 15, 2013

Irish Griffin said she believes if the Memorial Park pool isn’t reopened, crime will spike in that neighborhood of the city....

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weldnpipe

Jul-17-13 4:42 PM

The crick runs right past there, swim in it like the kids from Hepburnville & Cogan Station do. Best of all it costs no one anything, it's free.

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wwhickok

Jul-17-13 6:36 AM

If there is a neighborhood watch in various communities they need to do a better job of making people aware, people who want to be involved.

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wwhickok

Jul-17-13 6:34 AM

Alright allow me to explain my last comment it was a bit sarcastic. I primary point is this, they DID repair the pool once, now they would have to do it again, with money they don't have. 75% of the time when they rip something down it becomes a parking lot for something else. It doesn't matter how much you want the pool open its not going to happen. It's not budget friendly. Your pleas will go ignored.

If they're going to let it sit and decay I would rather them take the pool completely out and expand the park playground or something of that nature.

What the City views as a priority and what the citizens view as a priority may be two very different things.

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cybergram

Jul-16-13 12:30 PM

If the city would of kept up on the pools there would be no problem. But instead they spend money on things that are needless. What are kids to do you charge a high fee to go to the pool as it is use that money to keep it up. Williamsport is falling apart the roads are horrible, drugs, crimes and shootings Glad to say I no longer reside in the city I was raised in. COme on Mayor fix the town up like it use to be and give the kids a safe place to swim before someone goes swimming elsewhere and possibly drowns.

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wwhickok

Jul-16-13 11:19 AM

The first thing you have to ask yourself is, do you really think City Hall cares what the tax payers want?

If they did they'd back pedal off of the tourist attraction and address the roads, the crime, and the employment issues head on. Instead they waste on our money on research committees.

The Pool will never reopen and I'm not sure it should. At the same time I'd like to see them excavate the pool and expand the park, NOT with Bowman Park parking spaces which frankly is probably the "under the table" reason it was closed quite frankly.

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cupcake

Jul-16-13 7:29 AM

Irish is a tax payer. I don't know her personally but we work for the same employer.I saw the mayor at a meeting last week and he has no plans on reopenening the pool. period. he said one million to repair it and half of a million to fill it in and the city doesn't have it.

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wwhickok

Jul-16-13 6:57 AM

bornandraised, the chances are extremely high.

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bornandraised

Jul-15-13 7:08 PM

What are the chances that the ones demanding the government (city) fix the pool are the same ones the government provides everything for?

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JerryfromRI

Jul-15-13 6:30 PM

It also occurs to me that in the Mayor's effort to teach the community around Memorial Park a lesson when he had the basketball hoops removed, that it is he who has learned a lesson.

He's learned that the community is no longer simply content to have the hoops restored, the community demands more. The community has found its voice and the community has found itself a leader.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-15-13 6:24 PM

Isn't the County considering a recommendation to build a new $40,000,000 prison? Repairing the pool seems like a bargain by comparison.

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agaumom

Jul-15-13 3:36 PM

My father used to say......"take all the criminals and put them on an island. Leave one pistol. Return to the island one year later, and kill the one remaining". He had a point, but having a pool open during the daylight hours will NOT stop the shootings. Most of those shootings were in hours when the pool would have been closed. I feel the answer is to have more direct family contact between parents and their children. I never can remember coming home from school to an empty house.

Also, more has to be done to prevent addictions. Easty money is always a draw for someone needing or wanting money for their own purposes.

Just a few thoughts, maybe not the most profound, but mine, all mine.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-15-13 2:29 PM

"Something has to be done to stop this. I'm willing to go out into the community and let these young people know we are not going to be afraid or tolerate this. They are going to be on the run, not us. It can be done and it will be done."

Amen Ms. Griffin and I have been stating the same thing. Until people rise up, organize and face these punks head on, the problem will not go away. Imagine if neighborhoods all over Williamsport would organize and take an active role in driving these people out. It would definitely keep the police on their toes and the thugs wouldn't have too many places to go to feel safe. People need to take back their neighborhoods.

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wwhickok

Jul-15-13 11:51 AM

Garben, I'm very interested in hearing your reasoning behind that one.

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Garben78

Jul-15-13 11:14 AM

Close all taxpayer funded pools and parks period

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biobabycj

Jul-15-13 9:54 AM

collections and fundraisers are great, until the thugs decide they wanna steal the money for drugs or hold you at gunpoint for that money for drugs. i would like to see the pool reopened. however, you can not blame a closed pool for the shootings and crimes. they generally happen after the pool is closed in the evening anyhow,. just let the thugs shoot the thugs and be done with them. let the druggies shoot each other and the dealers. who really gives two crapolas about them anyhow. the good people will rise above. one million dollars is a lot for the pool to be reopened. a lot of fund raisers and donations will need to be made for this pool.

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wintergirl08

Jul-15-13 9:02 AM

( I Say Keep It Closed ! Why ? Because Others Just Don't Have Any Respect For Anything In Our City. They Trash The City Parks With The Non-Stop Of Litter , Drugs , Crimes That Lead To Deadly Shootings. Enough Is Enough One Big Scenario Here. Keep It Closed.

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wwhickok

Jul-15-13 8:54 AM

So I'm a naysayer because I don't believe it's fair to those of us not breaking the law to blame the lack of a pool for shooting someone? I complain every day I wish I had a pool because of the heat. I don't go out and kill my neighbor because I don't have one.

Mim, that's naive. STOP BLAMING THE INNOCENT AND THE LACK OF FUN FOR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. Enough is enough. You're the ones being lazy. You want to spend the tax money on this pool that has been there forever and costs a fortune to upkeep. But YOU also don't want to actively do anything about the violence. Give me a break. Who's being the hypocrite now?

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enoughalready

Jul-15-13 8:33 AM

When Memorial Pool was open the police were called there on a daily basis. Repair issues are not the only reason that pool wasn't reopened. Also, if you can't afford to travel to the pools that are open, how are you able to afford the admission fee?

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MimLogue

Jul-15-13 8:18 AM

Soccer fields also should be Walking distance from the neighborhoods. Irish is absolutely right, Children are being lost to the streets, You nay sayers are just lazy . After school programs, sports & music all deter negative behavior. You go girl!!! good job!

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spike2

Jul-15-13 8:00 AM

Agree with wwhickok. I doubt if the kids who use the pool or the parents who go with them are likely to be part of the crime problem. The pool should open BUT when kids are unsupervised, when the profanity starts, when kids do not listen to the lifeguard, they should be out. No argument. Lifeguards are not babysitters.Period.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-15-13 6:49 AM

Great job Irish!

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wwhickok

Jul-15-13 5:57 AM

Should the pool be opened again? Yes, but don't use that as an excuse for the crime and the violence. A Pool being opened or not being opened is not an excuse for people shooting each other. Look at the behavior of the young adults at the Loyalsock Pool. The presence of the pool doesn't deter any violence.

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