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The region’s mindset

July 17, 2013

James Carville was wrong when he once described Pennsylvania, due to the right wing mentality of the people in the central portion of the state, as being “Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in......

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CMReeder

Jul-17-13 12:28 AM

So how was James Carville wrong? LOL

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nobud74

Jul-17-13 2:23 AM

Ron, the SG, with all its' warts is no different than any other local paper. They often reflect the local flavor. If you don't like the paper, buy the Huffington Post, the Washington Post, the New York Times or any other left leaning paper, watch MSNBC and involve yourself in groups that reflect your thoughts and ideals. Why is it that every time a lib doesn't like something we have to change to suit them, but they would never consider changing to suit us? If I lived in an area serviced by a paper I didn't like, I would rely on it only for local news and get my editorial content elsewhere, as you should.

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richardson

Jul-17-13 2:37 AM

"So how was James Carville wrong?" Yes. As evidenced in folks like Reeder.

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ArtFold

Jul-17-13 3:26 AM

Ron K., So being Conservative and having strong morals and high values is somehow a bad thing?

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Tedeaux

Jul-17-13 4:44 AM

I'd like to thank the Sun Gaze

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gavinf56

Jul-17-13 5:20 AM

Wrong people are just as sure right people are wrong as right people are sure wrong people are wrong. The only difference is they're wrong.

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Garben78

Jul-17-13 5:20 AM

So Ron you don't say the same when a republican is holding the office? Blame blame blame I see nothing wrong with being a conservative white tax paying hard working sob

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Garben78

Jul-17-13 5:22 AM

By the way Ron it's Barak Hussein obama fault you know why? I read it on the internet

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Premier

Jul-17-13 5:33 AM

Ron, to you on behalf of all conservatives in central Pa who just can't afford to keep Philly and the Burg in greenbacks I say "Were sorry".

What ever must have happened during your formative years to mold you into the liberal cheerleader you are today had to be a sad chapter in your life. Again, "Were Sorry".

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-17-13 5:49 AM

Yes, our little hometown news source may lean right to satisfy the conservative majority readership in this area. But it pales in comparison to the powerhouse liberal outlets like CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Newsweek, and the New York Times. It's refreshing to see this Administration getting the same scrutiny the Bush administration received by liberal media. The fact is, Obama receives a free pass on so many issues from the majority of the mainstream media, for which 51% of the voting public relies on for their political education, as was evident by the last election.

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MrShaman

Jul-17-13 6:28 AM

"James Carville was wrong when he once described Pennsylvania, due to the right wing mentality of the people in the central portion of the state, as being "Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between." Judging from the frequent comments coming from some of the readers of the Sun-Gazette, they apparently live in some sort of alternate universe where President Obama, liberals and Democrats are responsible for all the evil and ills of the entire world. Their perception and hence their reality is that conservatives, Republicans and Tea Party aficionados are the true defenders of the Constitution and morality in the U.S. and that everyone else is wrong." - Ron Kamzelski

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Seriously...you don't see the conflict in everything you'd stated (here)??

James Carville was EXACTLY right...and, I couldn't BELIEVE (yet, expected) the PA Republican-ire, over his statement...'cause Carville WAS responding to (whether-or-not) Obama would see much PA-support, during the '08

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MrShaman

Jul-17-13 6:29 AM

....during the '08 Primaries.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jul-17-13 6:32 AM

Ron K.

Come to Houston area where you can get your fill of reading the junk that Klugman and Pitts write.

Thank goodness for the Drudge Report and the S/G.

Or is it all that Christian conservatism that you object to?

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MrShaman

Jul-17-13 6:34 AM

Ron K., So being Conservative and having strong morals and high values is somehow a bad thing?" - ArtFold

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When those "strong morals and high values" are code for ol' timey racism....of course.

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enigma

Jul-17-13 6:38 AM

" The newspaper's constant barrage of anti-Obama cartoons, one-sided editorials and political rants by right- wing commentators are an affront to meaningful and intelligent news reporting."

Maybe Ron is too young to remember that making fun of politicians, especially the president is what political cartoons have always been about. In a free society, the most important function of the press is to criticize government. There are enough mindless Obama worshippers in the media, that you should welcome some real reporting. Because the SG subscribes to the AP we get plenty of pro-Obama spin. I for one welcome the little bit of counterbalance we get on the editorial page.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-17-13 6:39 AM

Mr. Shaman please don't bring racism into every subject that is discussed. It makes you part of the problem.

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MrShaman

Jul-17-13 6:46 AM

Ron...What ever must have happened during your formative years to mold you into the liberal cheerleader you are today had to be a sad chapter in your life." - Premier

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I can't speak for Ron, but...when I (first) heard my great-grandparents were members of the PA Klan...attitudes (towards Blacks), around here, started making more-and-more "sense", to me.

I'm 63, now....but, figure I've got a "little" family-Karma to clean-up...and, I'm not as lazy (or, living in as much denial) as too-many "conservatives", in-and-around Williamsport.

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MrShaman

Jul-17-13 6:51 AM

"Mr. Shaman please don't bring racism into every subject that is discussed. It makes you part of the problem." - GysgtUSMC

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I don't need someone...who's spent a significant-time following orders...instructing ME on the whole THOUGHT-process.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-17-13 7:13 AM

"I don't need someone...who's spent a significant-time following orders...instructing ME on the whole THOUGHT-process."

Your disdain for those who serve/served in the armed forces only strengthens the argument that your thought process has been severely skewed by extreme left wing ideology. There are liberal views on here that I sometimes agree with. But your extremist left wing views are almost cult like.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-17-13 7:23 AM

"I can't speak for Ron, but...when I (first) heard my great-grandparents were members of the PA Klan...attitudes (towards Blacks), around here, started making more-and-more "sense", to me.

I'm 63, now....but, figure I've got a "little" family-Karma to clean-up...and, I'm not as lazy (or, living in as much denial) as too-many "conservatives", in-and-around Williamsport."

Mr. Shaman that explains a lot, but perhaps you're trying a bit too hard?

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enigma

Jul-17-13 7:25 AM

Maybe one of you big city bigots can explain to me, what's wrong with Alabama? Carville was just demonstrating his contempt for the people that make the country work. People like him think that it's government that makes America what it is, but he's wrong. It's the people, and that includes the good people of Alabama and Pennsylvania, even the ones who don't live in Philly or Pittsburgh. Carville is a big city guy and that's all he knows. I've worked in New York City and I was not impressed. It's just too many people in too little area and because of this, they learn to rely on government. Some of them even look down on those who live in rural areas and have to rely on themselves. Imaging that; living in the city makes you believe that self reliance is a bad thing. I don't miss the city a bit. I prefer freedom.

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CMReeder

Jul-17-13 7:27 AM

"So being Conservative and having strong morals and high values is somehow a bad thing?"

That is not what he said but that you think of yourself.

Richardson posts;"So how was James Carville wrong?" Yes. As evidenced in folks like Reeder.

I did not write letter and you did not read. He states that Carville is wrong then does not prove it.

Note to nobud, I agree with you that if don't like the newspaper read one you do like. Conservatives try to change things to their way of thinking also it is not just liberals. Conservatives think they are right about everything too.

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CMReeder

Jul-17-13 7:34 AM

Here is a fact that most people can not comprehend; liberals do live in central PA and they are not limited to the vocal ones who post here. I suggest you all get over it; left, right, center, independent.

By the way conservatives have written to the editor complaining about the left leaning tendencies of the paper. 'We are afterall a very conservative leaning area.'

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DavidBross

Jul-17-13 7:40 AM

Urban and rural areas rarely see eye to eye. Also, urban areas tend to be more liberal, while rural areas are usually more conservative. I think one reason is that people in urban areas are constantly interacting with folks who are different from them. In rural areas it is more likely that people will interact with those who look, think, and act like them. However, both areas provide things that the other needs and wants.

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MrShaman

Jul-17-13 8:10 AM

Ron K.

Thank goodness for the Drudge Report..." - ToTEXASfromPA

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...Or, if you prefer something a "little"-less racist, check-out the Drudge Retort.

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