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Obamacare won’t work

July 20, 2013

I have been a liberal all my life but after long and careful thought it is clear that Obamacare will no longer work because it tends to be Medicare for all....

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keith2002lhu

Jul-20-13 3:24 AM

This LTE seems very incoherent. Mr. Ebner starts out by saying that Obamacare will not work, because he believes it is "Medicare for all". Then he talks about "people in their 20s and 30s using Federal debit welfare access cards looking healthy and able to work. What does this mean? Are the people using access cards not working? Mr. Ebner does not state how seeing people with access cards will have any bearing on "Obamacare", and also does not show that he has any understanding of what "Obamacare" is.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-20-13 4:49 AM

Last week I found an "Obamacare Guesstimator" online. You entered your family size, gross income and if anyone smoked.It gave you yout total cost for ins.(avail. in 4 tiers) and the amt. of the subsidy you would get.The gross cost it gave for me & Hubby was 23,000 per year (2/3 of our income)with a subsidy of 10,000.If we are forced to do this, we will have to live in a tent.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-20-13 5:18 AM

Although he seems to had too much coffee when he wrote this letter, I was happy to see that at least one liberal woke up and realized that obamacare and freebies are going to cripple this nation even more.

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MrShaman

Jul-20-13 6:05 AM

"....after long and careful thought it is clear that Obamacare will no longer work because it tends to be Medicare for all." - Howard Ebner

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No...THIS would be "Medicare for all."

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See:

BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Single Payer Health Insurance | PBS (YouTube)

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gavinf56

Jul-20-13 6:08 AM

"Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi:

When you and the President sought our support for the Affordable Care Act (ACA), you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat. Right now, unless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class." - James P. Hoffa, General President of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters; Joseph Hansen, International President of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union; and Donald “D” Taylor, President of UNITE-HERE, a union representing hotel, airport, food service, gaming, and textile workers.

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MrShaman

Jul-20-13 6:10 AM

"This LTE seems very incoherent." - keith2002lhu

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...PRIMARILY, Mr. Ebner's insistence he's "been a liberal" all his Life.

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MrShaman

Jul-20-13 6:15 AM

"Last week I found an "Obamacare Guesstimator" online." - Tgrammiex4

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...And...like "magic"...such a site has "managed" to disappear!!!

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-20-13 6:17 AM

Mr. Shaman, if you have read some of the letters Mr. Ebner has wrote in the past, you would know he is DEFINATELY a liberal!

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MrShaman

Jul-20-13 6:18 AM

"Although he seems to had too much coffee when he wrote this letter, I was happy to see that at least one liberal woke up...." - GysgtUSMC

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Yeah...sure...that's what happened...ANOTHER o' those Lib-To-T-Bagger "transitions"!!!!

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MrShaman

Jul-20-13 6:23 AM

Mr. Shaman, if you have read some of the letters Mr. Ebner has wrote in the past, you would know he is DEFINATELY a liberal!" - GysgtUSMC

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Seeing-as-how I don't KNOW Mr. Ebner...I KNOW no-such-thing.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-20-13 6:28 AM

And...like "magic"...such a site has "managed" to disappear!!!

Mr. Shaman Google kff**** for the tool tgrammie is citing.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-20-13 6:29 AM

That should be kff dot org

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-20-13 6:30 AM

...And...like "magic"...such a site has "managed" to disappear!!! - Sham

Wrong again! see: Subsidy Calculator Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-20-13 6:33 AM

Yea tgrammie I had no problem finding it. Once again his mouth is moving faster than his brain.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-20-13 6:42 AM

Gunny, that seems to be an everyday occurance....

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-20-13 6:53 AM

Seeing-as-how I don't KNOW Mr. Ebner...I KNOW no-such-thing. -Shaman

You don't know any of us but it's never stopped you from calling us all a plethora of labels/names.

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CaveFelem

Jul-20-13 7:30 AM

MrShaman, so you don't have to worry about health care premiums or who's paying for them? Good for you!

In Tgrammiex4's example, she and her husband would be expected to pay over $1000/month ($23,000 - $10,000 subsidy = $13,000) for health insurance.

Who could afford that? It's supposed to be the "Affordable Care Act" not the "Make People Homeless Due to High Premiums Act".

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spike2

Jul-20-13 7:50 AM

I don't think the guesstimator or whatever is correct. I have priced private insurance and my husband and I could get a reasonable policy for about $4000.00 per year. Neither of us are "young" nor eligible for medicare. here is the problem as I see it. We do have to provide basic medical for everyone. By this, I mean necessary vaccinations, screens, medication for diseases and anyone with infectious diseases that can and do spread. We do and should continue to treat anything that is an emergency, such as heart failure, stroke, broken bones, ruptured organs,cancer treatment and so forth. We are at a health care crisis stage. What is the answer? As to keith, no single adult individual is able to obtain a "medical card" any longer. Second, able to work, where you work, the type of insurance now offered have changed. The solution is not easy but first we need to recognize that a problem exists. AHCA is not ideal nor is employer insurance. Ideas?

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Premier

Jul-20-13 7:58 AM

"Last week I found an "Obamacare Guesstimator" online." - Tgrammiex4

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...And...like "magic"...such a site has "managed" to disappear!!! -Shaman

I just used it Sham so maybe you should disappear!!!!

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Premier

Jul-20-13 8:01 AM

BTW that site has to be flawed, I played with some #'s and it had a person making 1K a year paying 808% of his income for health insurance.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-20-13 8:13 AM

Spike, I think the figures given are based on the State offered plans. It showed 4 tiers of coverage.My Hubby works for a small co., less than 10 employees and they offer no ins. I too think you will prob. be able to buy cheaper Ins. thru private companies. It's still going to be hard for alot of us that make south of $50k a year but don't qualify for much help. Many of usare barely keeping our heads above water now, this will kill us.

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CMReeder

Jul-20-13 8:21 AM

Very good Gavin now let me fill the blanks that you blatantly ignored. The Obama administration delayed the implementation requirement for businesses without insurnace. Hoffa's union and two others wrote in regard of a growing trend among businesses to reduce the full-time force to a part-force in order to get out of obligations to employees. How far do think the Democratic leaders are going to get to fix ACA when you have GOP leadership h*llbent on repealing it?

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CMReeder

Jul-20-13 8:25 AM

Several states are reporting success with the exchanges that were developed under ACA and with an expansion of Medicare/Medicaid.

States that are not are suffering backlash. Constituents seeking aid in navigating ACA from their Republican representatives are not getting any because of the hardline against ACA by the GOP.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-20-13 8:26 AM

Mr. Reeder, maybe ACA should have been tested and the "bugs" fixed before it was EVER passed and signed.Could have avoided all this backpeddling now.Pelosi's " we've got to pass it before we can see whats in it" was really stupid and costly.

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CMReeder

Jul-20-13 8:26 AM

Sorry got ahead of myself it should read full-time work force to part-time work force.

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