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July 22, 2013

While exchanging words with the resident libertarian has been interesting I think that Mr....

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USABorn

Jul-22-13 3:54 AM

While exchanging words with the resident libertarian...........

That's how far I read before I knew who had written the LTE!

It is such a shame that resident liberal Reeder finds it neessary to keep on working so hard on convincing the public how pathetically "unknowledgeable" (kindest way to say it) he is.

His LTE's are nothing but liberal drivel.

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Tgrammiex4

Jul-22-13 4:33 AM

It might make for a shorter list if Mr. Reeder could list the positive effects Liberal leadership has had on the WORKING taxpayers in this country.

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WKnapp

Jul-22-13 5:27 AM

Bonus from 'Einstein of the Left'! Devoid of anything useful AND unnecessarily confrontational, together in one! Additionally, he's displaying it for all readers of the paper to see! Everybody gets to enjoy the venom and drivel that is him!

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VinceKnauff

Jul-22-13 5:56 AM

I am sure that Mr. Reeder can demonstrate where a society has successfully integrated the principles and values of Liberalism wholly throughout their society and governing structure.

Yes Chuck can, as long as you don't require that those Liberal experiments be thriving. Detroit is one, the state of California is another.

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MrShaman

Jul-22-13 5:59 AM

"While exchanging words with the resident libertarian...........

That's how far I read before I knew who had written the LTE!

It is such a shame that resident liberal Reeder finds it neessary to keep on working so hard on convincing the public how pathetically "unknowledgeable" (kindest way to say it) he is.

His LTE's are nothing but liberal drivel." - USABorn

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WHICH Country (was that), again "thriving successfully applying only the principles and values of libertarianism"??????

Maybe you (simply) "forgot" to list all-of-them.

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MrShaman

Jul-22-13 6:03 AM

There are NO takers....listing all of those Countries who are "thriving successfully applying only the principles and values of libertarianism"??????

Absolutely "shocking".

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CarlHiller

Jul-22-13 6:12 AM

"should show all of us examples of nations thriving successfully applying only the principles and values of libertarianism." It cannot be shown today since most countries are a for of hard or soft tyranny, due to leftist liberal/socialist notions of governing, but from the founding till the late 1800 America prospered due to classical liberalism or what today is called libertarianism.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-22-13 6:16 AM

Mr. Reeder.. you should feel thrilled. You have Shaman cheerleading your cause. What a team! BTW, I noticed one thing missing from Reeder's letter and Shaman's comments. They both failed to list the reasons against libertarianism. I guess it's just not liberalism so it must be wrong.

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andy33

Jul-22-13 6:52 AM

What's your point Chuckie?...Why should he explain anything to you..or for that matter anyone!....

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DavidBross

Jul-22-13 7:31 AM

Thank you, Carl, for providing an example. In your opinion, what happened toward the end of the 1800s to create the shift away from libertarianism?

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enigma

Jul-22-13 8:11 AM

David, What happened at the end of the 1800s that lead us away from our founding principles was a bunch of know it alls who thought that they could run people's lives better than they could. They called themselves Progressives. Read up on these evil #@%&@. You will find that they are just like the liberals of today. This country became rich and powerful under a libertarian system and the further we get from it the more we become just like the rest of the world.

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MrShaman

Jul-22-13 8:11 AM

I am sure that Mr. Reeder can demonstrate where a society has successfully integrated the principles and values of Liberalism wholly throughout their society and governing structure.

Yes Chuck can, as long as you don't require that those Liberal experiments be thriving. Detroit is one, the state of California is another." - VinceKnauff

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You've gotta get out, more...unless you're dealing with literacy-issues...

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See:

How Jerry Brown Scared California Straight

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MrShaman

Jul-22-13 8:16 AM

"Mr. Reeder.. you should feel thrilled. You have Shaman cheerleading your cause." GysgtUSMC

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Hmmmmmm...so, it's (somehow) "wrong" to question where libertarianism (actually) works??

What're you "libertarians" trying to HIDE?

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MrShaman

Jul-22-13 8:19 AM

"What's your point Chuckie?...Why should he explain anything to you..or for that matter anyone!...." - andy33

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I guess you haven't heard. Explanations "kind" o' help to establish the whole credibility-thing.

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MrShaman

Jul-22-13 8:21 AM

David, What happened at the end of the 1800s that lead us away from our founding principles was a bunch of know it alls who thought that they could run people's lives better than they could. They called themselves Progressives." - enigma

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...And, what....those Progressives had no names...or, you simply "forgot" to list all-o'-them??

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JohnZook

Jul-22-13 9:06 AM

Reeder, keep your anti American drivel against real Americans in the comments section. You make yourself look like a bitter idealist to the whole region.

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philunderwood

Jul-22-13 9:34 AM

Rather than deal with the usual noise from some here, I decided to answer Chuck’s letter with one of my own so all readers can see it. Everyone can wait with great anticipation for it to appear.

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USABorn

Jul-22-13 9:44 AM

MrShaman - 5:59 AM

(His LTE's are nothing but liberal drivel." - USABorn)

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"WHICH Country (was that), again "thriving successfully applying only the principles and values of libertarianism"??????"

"Maybe you (simply) "forgot" to list all-of-them."

Obviously Sham hasn't taken his meds yet this morning. List all of what????????????? Nothing about any country in MY comment....you are really losing it!

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SteelerFan

Jul-22-13 10:16 AM

Sham: '...And, what....those Progressives had no names...or, you simply "forgot" to list all-o'-them??'

Start with Teddy Roosevelt.

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Rupaul

Jul-22-13 11:43 AM

Somalia would be one.

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CitizenX

Jul-22-13 12:45 PM

"philunderwood:

I decided to answer Chuck’s letter with one of my own so all readers can see it."

Mr Underwood I'm disappointed to see you stoop to reeder's level. Your comments here are always so intelligent and knowledgeable that I have always seen you as pretty much a model of adult, sane, classy behavior. I would have expected better from you than to lower yourself to a much more public "debate" than this forum is, especially with someone of such low mentality. I sure hope this isn't the first step in your spiral all the way down to his level.

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philunderwood

Jul-22-13 12:57 PM

Many people see the letters in the paper that have no knowledge of comments here. They see Chuck’s nonsense so I decided to counter it with a letter of my own. I’m sure there will be plenty of comments when my letter’s published. Actually, I submitted two letters in answer to Chuck that haven’t been published as yet. A couple of others have already done a good job of countering Chuck’s claims with their comments here.

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CarlHiller

Jul-22-13 1:47 PM

David- There is no one moment or object that can be pinpointed to the change, but if I have to pick 2 it was the Civil War and Reconstruction after the war. From that point one can trace the happenings that have eventually lead us to the change we have experienced today.

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DavidBross

Jul-22-13 2:24 PM

Thanks, Carl. I appreciate the info.

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JerryfromRI

Jul-22-13 3:04 PM

What happened at the end of the 1800s that lead us away from our founding principles was a bunch of know it alls who thought that they could run people's lives better than they could. They called themselves Progressives." - enigma

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The 'know it alls' thought that women should have the vote, among other things.

Anyone want to make the case that the progressives had it wrong in that regard? Please make your case.

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