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Remember O.J.

July 23, 2013

All the people that are protesting the “Not Guilty” verdict handed down to George Zimmerman must remember that O.J. Simpson got the same verdict....

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USABorn

Jul-24-13 4:12 AM

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 10:06 PM

Nobud, that may be true but I also think there is a bid difference between prejudice and racism. A racist feels his race his superior to all others. But you can be prejudice to many different things, just like I think many on here are prejudice of the democratic party.. that doesn't make them a racist. I don't consider myself a racist. I'll admit, in my younger years I probably had some racist views. But after spending so much time in the military depending on people of all color, you see things a lot differently. In the Marines you are either light green or dark green.. but we are all Marines.

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nobud74

Jul-23-13 9:25 PM

The thing is that EVERYONE has prejudice, EVERYONE and if you don't admit it you are lying to only yourself. The trick is how we handle our prejudices. Do we succumb to them or do we use our noggin and push them aside and do all in our power to not let them rule our decisions and actions? This will get lots of dislikes, but those people are only fooling themselves.

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nobud74

Jul-23-13 9:21 PM

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nobud74

Jul-23-13 9:21 PM

Rick, I don't know if it was a joke, I'd call it more of a case of beating all the screamers of racism to the punch and being a bit sarcastic. I couldn't sleep so I was flipping through some web sites and saw this.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 4:50 PM

Shulski yes it was a gated community and the FBI questioned people in that community and found no one that witnessed or heard Zimmerman being racially biased in anyway. In fact Zimmerman had been one of the few to take any action to protest the 2010 beating of Sherman Ware, a black homeless man, by the son of a Sanford police officer. Zimmerman distributed fliers in the black community trying to get others involved too, and helped organize a January 8, 2011, Sanford City Hall community forum to protest the incident.

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Premier

Jul-23-13 4:25 PM

Well we will be better off after all Neighborhood Watch group are disbanded. The fact that they might have to report on a suspicious person is profiling is it not?

BUT WAIT! If they were to also report on neighbor Joe that he has the hood up on his car and might be stealing parts or that the Mailman took a shortcut across the grass we might still be able to have these groups.

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Shulski

Jul-23-13 4:08 PM

GYGSTUMSC I heard in various media that it was a "gated community". I actually just looked it up. It was a gated community. But it was mixed blacks and whites living there. If Zimmerman was profiling, I don't think he'd admit it. His mom is Hispanic, so you'd think he'd be a little more open minded. Then again, Hispanics can profile and be prejudice.

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Shulski

Jul-23-13 4:04 PM

Maybe people remember Oscar Grant and Rodney King more.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 2:49 PM

I agree Spike but that doesn't mean he was targeting blacks as so many are insinuating. And the reason I included the racial make up of the neighborhood is because one, the media was reporting that it was a predominately white neighborhood and second because there is no evidence that Zimmerman ever targeted any blacks that lived at that community.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 2:41 PM

Wikipedia: The autopsy report stated that Martin had trace levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, in his blood and urine. The toxicology report found the levels to be 1.5 nanograms/ml of THC and 7.3 nanograms/ml of THC-COOH, a metabolite of THC that can stay in the system for weeks after cannabis has been smoked. Larry Kobilinsky, a professor of forensic science, stated that the THC amount was so low that it may have been ingested days earlier and played no role in Martin's behavior.

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spike2

Jul-23-13 2:12 PM

I said profiling exists. Profiling is as simple as being a bit more nervous, holding your handbag closely, or having your keys out quickly. profiling does not require hate. Profiling can be heightened fear. I think Zimmerman did profile. I think his basis was the prior crimes not a distinct hatred of a minority. However, ask any local minorities who hold good jobs and you feel might be worthy of a question, were you ever followed in a store, did you ever feel your presence made others uncomfortable, have people stared at you in an upscale restaurant? As members of the majority class Pinecr - the nanograms indicated a trace amount. Don't know if you have ever pulled or read blood or urinalysis. The levels do not indicate he was high. He had no paraphernalia on his person. The trace amt. was a non-issue.

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Rupaul

Jul-23-13 1:23 PM

What the heck does one have to do with the other? I don't get it.

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rick424

Jul-23-13 1:18 PM

Sorry nobud I meant the second comment. Please accept my apologies. I can see I am in the minority on that one, so if there is some joke there I missed it.

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wwhickok

Jul-23-13 10:55 AM

Very few people accept the verdict in the OJ Trial and it's because of the way the trial was conducted. The way the evidence was handled, etc.

I didn't initially bring up the OJ Trial, the ARTICLE did.

As for naming names Reeder, I was being sarcastic, I always had intention of making sure you know that I was talking to you.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 10:51 AM

Oh and one last point Spike, The population in the development, at the time of the shooting, was about 49% non-Hispanic white, 23% Hispanic, 20% black, and 5% Asian, according to Census figures. It was not a predominately white community as many media outlets were reporting.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 10:42 AM

Spike I came from a neighborhood in MD where we had similar problems and we too formed a watch group. And we didn't care if the person was black, white or purple. The neighborhood was scared and we had to do something for people to feel safe. Remember, this was a gated community and Travon did NOT live there. He was staying at his father's fiancé's home, but this was not his home and he was not that well known in the community. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Zimmerman targeted him because he was black and if there was, Holder would have already arrested him.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 10:36 AM

Spike, while blacks may be profiled, that does not give everyone the right to accuse Zimmerman of this. Here are some facts regarding Zimmerman's mindset BEFORE Martin came into the picture that night. This is from Wikipedia: "From January 1, 2011 through February 26, 2012, police were called to The Retreat at Twin Lakes 402 times. During the 6 months preceding the February 26 shooting, Zimmerman called the non-emergency police line seven times. On five of those calls, Zimmerman reported suspicious looking men in the area, but never offered the men's race without first being asked by the dispatcher. Crimes committed at The Retreat in the year prior to Martin's death included eight burglaries, nine thefts, and one shooting. Twin Lakes residents said there were dozens of reports of attempted break-ins, which had created an atmosphere of fear in their neighborhood."

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pinecr

Jul-23-13 10:34 AM

This has nothing to do with OJ's trial. Zimmerman got off because he was defending himself...gee we don't hear anything about the fact that the deceased was on drugs and there was an eye witness (black by the way) that saw the deceased beating the crap out of Zimmerman...this is just what Obama needed to turn this into a racial issue...he needs to keep his two cents (about all he is worth) out of it.

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spike2

Jul-23-13 10:08 AM

There is a problem here. OJ was acquitted. Accept the verdict and stop saying I know he was guilty. A jury decided. We accept verdicts or we don't. Minorities are profiled. We all know it. people are naturally distrustful of those who look different than them. This happens on all sides of the color wheel. the OJ case is long over, the Martin case will fade more quickly. OJ was a "star". juries rendered verdicts. This is our system. Instead of questioning why certain cases receive mass attention, question why we make TV drama in any court case. Reporting is fine. The saturation is ridiculous.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-23-13 9:56 AM

The administration, political activists, liberal media and liberals in general made this about race. No one else.

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CMReeder

Jul-23-13 9:46 AM

You really need to learn how to not mention names.

By the way you mentioning the OJ trail along with the Zimmerman trail and having people compare and telling people to look at the races in the case. But it isn't about race, right?!

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wwhickok

Jul-23-13 9:46 AM

Not once did I mention the words retaliation or revenge, nor was I suggesting that True Justice is served by 'getting back at the blacks' or whites or asians, or hispanics, or the aliens on the undiscovered planets out there in the universe.

Retaliation is a tool of the ignorant. The POINT is that this wasn't about race at all. This was about right and wrong. Was Zimmerman completely right? Probably not. Was Martin completely wrong? Probably not. Was there enough reasonable doubt to suggest Zimmerman was defending himself? Well the Not Guilty verdict would suggest there was.

I wasn't there, I don't know what happened and I'm sure I'll never really know.

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CMReeder

Jul-23-13 9:42 AM

Yeah it is right next to yours but my is closest to the window.

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wwhickok

Jul-23-13 9:42 AM

For those too simple minded to understand and I won't mention any names Reeder but you know who you are.. The OJ Simpson Trial was an example of a 'murder case' that involved a white individual and black individual. One case did not result in a cry of racism. One did.

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