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Condemn racism

July 24, 2013

I was astonished that George Zimmerman was found to be “not guilty” for the death of Trayvon Martin. Mr. Zimmerman blatantly pursued Trayvon Martin, profiling him as a criminal....

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USABorn

Jul-26-13 6:20 AM

spike2 - 8:20 AM

"if Martin was a syrup user, codeine would show in his blood sample. trust the experts on that one."

Since he was killed on his way home with his skittles and tea, he had not yet had an opportunity to use them.

"Codeine does not accumulate in body tissues because it is metabolized by the liver and its metabolic products are excreted by the kidneys. The process by which codeine is metabolized is known as glucuronidation. Through O-demethylation the codeine is converted into morphine and through N-demethylation it becomes norcodeine."

"The metabolism rate is approximately 30 mg of codeine in an hour and about 90% of the drug will be excreted from the body within a day. In most people, only about 10% of codeine is transformed into morphine."

The last 2 para: itechDOTdickinsonDOTedu/chemistry/?p=800

I guess the question would be, IF he used, how recently had he used prior to his death/autopsy?

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 9:03 AM

My apologies then Msamerica, I misinterpreted it.

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msamerica101

Jul-25-13 8:33 AM

wwhickok...

I was agreeing with that statement.

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spike2

Jul-25-13 8:20 AM

USA - not all Robitussin is the same. The desired product is not on the shelf. You must know they took 500 common drugs that helped all of us. the sole purpose was to prevent the few from getting high or using as a component in street drugs. I don't know about any of you but I sure miss some of the old sinus meds that worked. as an aside, there is no evidence of any Robitussin. if Martin was a syrup user, codeine would show in his blood sample. trust the experts on that one. Both sides had access to a blood sample for testing. That's how it works.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 6:13 AM

One final thought on that Francine. You said you're not a racist. Racial Profiling IS Racism. Just sayin'.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 6:12 AM

-continued-

you and honestly francine, it's sad that you would pick players based on the color of their skin. I really hope you've never been a Little league Coach. See the rest of us would watch the kids try out and pick who is actually GOOD first and then pick the kids who need someone willing to help them, I find more often than not, the rosters become about 50/50 doing it that way, which I think is great.

The fact you profile people is not proof that Zimmerman did it, I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 6:09 AM

Francine, what you just said about sports and "picking the black guy".... that has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've heard, sad thing is, a lot of people think like you.

Why Do I feel this way? George Herman Ruth, Cal Ripken Jr., Larry Bird, Peyton Manning, Steve Largent, Mario Lemeaux, Steve Kerr, Dirk Nowitski, I can keep going if you'd like..

Is there African American's in Sports? That's a possibility I haven't actually counted. I think there probably are in the sport of basketball, though I don't really feel the NBA is as popular as baseball and football where I think there is a pretty even divide.

I'm willing to bet 60-75% of Offensive Lineman for example in the NFL are white. Idk, maybe we got an obesity issue in our race (that's a joke for those who didn't catch it).

My point is that you started out saying Zimmerman was racial profiling, I disagree with you. You use sports and how 'you do it personally' to back it up, again, I disagree with

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USABorn

Jul-24-13 10:08 PM

Skittles, Arizona Iced Tea, Robitussin = ‘Drank’ Or ‘Lean’ It’s highly intoxicating and the side affects are severe.

Lean slows you down. It makes you feel good. It’s meant to be sipped on, and it tastes da mn good. One of the best feelings you will ever experience. Euphoria with a hint of sedation. …”

Lean is also the drug mixture that killed Pimp C.

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JasonTaxYourFeet

Jul-24-13 9:13 PM

President Obama said "That could have been me"... Really? When you were twenty something you walked around in neighborhoods you had no business being in and when asked about why you were there you would have beaten that person to the point where he was in fear of his life? Good to know Mr. President.

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Premier

Jul-24-13 8:19 PM

I hear Crickets. Where are the boys at?

C'mon I need a good laugh before bedtime.

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enigma

Jul-24-13 3:34 PM

Melissa has been watching too much MSNBC. You can tell because every word in this letter comes directly from their talking points. This is the network that selectively edited the 911 calls to make Zimmerman appear racist. They have also only reported news that supports their position. Since that is not very much, most of their 'news' was made up. Get the facts Melissa.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-24-13 1:22 PM

At least we were able to silence Reeder and Shaman when it comes to actually providing facts regarding civil rights charges.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-24-13 1:20 PM

Krazyk... unfortunately it is not over. Holder is continuing to investigate in hopes of pleasing those that want civil rights charges filed. Zimmerman has lost his job, has been expelled from school and has to stay in hiding because of death threats. I would say those that want to see him dead or imprisoned are not done yet.

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KrazyK

Jul-24-13 1:08 PM

The U.S. justice system is the best in the world. The verdict was not guilty. Conservatives consider this a win; liberals consider it a loss and cry racism. Let them cry. By debating the verdict plays into their hand and continues the racism debate. It's over. I don't see the conservatives gloating in their "win"; but I think they are stupid by continuing to replay the case and by trying to get the liberals to see it the conservative way. Ain't gunna happen! Let the liberal rants fall upon plugged ears; who will they fight if there is no opponent in the ring. Liberals - get over it!

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-24-13 12:42 PM

bad conduct or dishonorable discharges.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-24-13 12:41 PM

"The ONLY people, who could propose such an inane argument, would be those who complain about someone (who'd been elected to serve in D.C.) gettin' all "political"."

Shaman the President should have learned his lesson by now when it comes to him making "comments" about on going cases in our criminal justice system. We all remember the beer summit because he stuck his foot in his mouth. But some of you may not be aware what the military's Commander in Chief said concerning sexual assault cases and how they should be handled. In May, Obama told reporters that service members engaging in wrongful sexual activities must be “prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court-martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.” Sounds harmless right? Wrong. In the military they have such a thing called unlawful command influence. And Obama's comments are now keeping judges from sentencing service members found guilty of these offenses to bad conduct or dishonorable

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-24-13 12:06 PM

Well Shaman, you had lots to say but you didn't come close to answering my question. In fact, you didn't answer much of anything. Jury nullification? Give me a break. Show me this mountain of evidence that the jury ignored. In fact, if anything, legal experts have stated that the prosecution tried to use reverse nullification when in his rebuttal to the defense's closing arguments, John Guy asked the jurors to disregard the lack of evidence and the lack of credibility of two key prosecution witnesses to find Zimmerman guilty. Come on Shaman, you must have some evidence to support the liberal claims of racism and civil rights violations.

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spike2

Jul-24-13 12:01 PM

Couple of points. Gysgt - I agree this case is not the ideal point to start.I also agree that there are horrid instances of convictions and executions of black men and some white men. Erik - you think justice is blind because you never worked in the "system". Not so. Tedeaux - Neither of you are appropriate to sit on the jury, if this goes to trial. I really have a problem calling these two men. They certainly seem to lack judgement and sense of reason. This is a growing problem with men in their late teens and early twenties. We know little about their lives.One lived in a very poor and dangerous part of Philly. Is it a way of life that begins in the mid-teens?However, murder is not justified even though the victim had pending charges. I guess we wait for the rest of the story. msamerica- we will never know. Only two people ever know the full truth in a homicide. One is deceased. We will never know everything because of suppressions. I wonder why his wife didn't ID his voi

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Tedeaux

Jul-24-13 11:19 AM

Cont: killing another 21 year old black man in the city this weekend. Alcoholic Anonymous has a prayer that they stand by that basically ask: please grant me the patience to accept the things I can't change, the strength to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference! Well MrShaman, you would have a more profound impact on the lives of the people of Williamsport if you would do something to stop the murder of black men in Williamsport by black men.

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Tedeaux

Jul-24-13 11:05 AM

Well MrShaman, our resident expert on all things black, white and all shades in between, why do you answer your quote of what I posted with an excuse that has nothing to do with George Zimmerman being racist? If the jury that was chosen to hear the case was not appropriate, the prosecutor appointed by Eric Holder should have spoken up and made the necessary adjustments to insure a fair trial. Now that he's been found innocent, your comments sound more like sour grapes because you didn't get the outcome that you had hoped for. If you want to make a difference, register to vote in Williamsport and maybe you'll be lucky enough to sit on the jury for the 21results year old black man accused of killing

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MrShaman

Jul-24-13 10:16 AM

"One thing few people seem to understand is that it's racist to look for racial reasons to explain things where no racism is evident." - VinceKnauff

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The ONLY people, who could propose such an inane argument, would be those who complain about someone (who'd been elected to serve in D.C.) gettin' all "political".

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MrShaman

Jul-24-13 10:11 AM

"Do you honestly believe that if Eric Holder thought there was any possible race hatred going on in the Zimmerman case that he wouldn't already be back in jail on new Federal charges? Zimmerman was found innocent of all charges!" - Tedeaux

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Jury Nullification...ain't it grand(?)...UNLESS that jury's (primarily) "staffed" by Blacks! That's "different".

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MrShaman

Jul-24-13 10:07 AM

"What is evident here Melissa is your ignorance of the law....and the facts of this case. It's people like you that fuel the fires of real racism...gee thanks!" - andy33

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Yeah...let's make EVERY effort to ignore the FACT...it was George Zimmerman who'd "pulled the pin" on that whole event...by NOT staying in his vehicle.

That's indisputable.

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MrShaman

Jul-24-13 10:03 AM

"Our goal is to acknowledge when racism exists and condemn racism on every level, both individually and as a society."

Sorry Ms Wolf, but the goal of letters like this is to promote hatred and divisiveness." - USABorn

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Fear, NOT, Melissa!!

USABorn is merely one (of many) local "mind-readers".

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wwhickok

Jul-24-13 9:56 AM

Correction, the Zimmerman/Martin incident is what I was referring to, not the trial itself, although I don't feel any racism took place in the trial either.

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