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What community is

July 25, 2013

A commentator recently claimed the right doesn’t believe in community. The right believes community is free people voluntarily interacting with one another to the benefit of themselves and each other....

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USABorn

Jul-26-13 5:08 AM

MrShaman - 6:50 AM

"Someone needs to call the CDC!! There appears to be some kind o' unidentified-pandemic, at hand!! It's quite possible Right-Wingers' tendencies (towards paranoia) are actually organic; by nature!"

Be sure and report the severe mental illness of liberalism while you are at it. That is an illness that is destroying the very foundation of our country.

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GoBB62

Jul-25-13 9:31 PM

"I have yet to see you agree to any leftist view; near, far, inbetween. I have yet to see you agree with any liberal who does not confirm what you already believe. It speaks volumes about you when you say everything from me is extreme left, when it isn't." - chuck

SEE:

History of the World Part 1 BULLS H I T!

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ArtFold

Jul-25-13 7:35 PM

After reading some of these letters and other letters in the past I am convinced that Sham and CMReeder seriously need to put down the glass pipe. Just my humble opinion.

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ArtFold

Jul-25-13 7:30 PM

To Bobbie2 @ 7:10am ... "High Five!"

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gavinf56

Jul-25-13 6:20 PM

"Let us face it Gavin you are not interested." - CMReeder

Yea, so? What's your point. Some of us do not feel the need to have to post on every ltte to give oneself a feeling of artificial importance.

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KrazyK

Jul-25-13 1:40 PM

Phil, your definitions are the same only you used the buzz words "controlling" for the left and "voluntarily" for the right.

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LaughIn

Jul-25-13 12:11 PM

voters need to educate themselves better on candidates

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LaughIn

Jul-25-13 11:48 AM

I think that we all know what a good sense of community isn't? For it to be truly functional, it has to compromise somewhat "equally" for all of its residents. Otherwise resulting in a tipping of the scale, leading to imbalance and undesirable chaos. Wes gives a good example of the undesirable.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-25-13 11:45 AM

We had a moderate running in the last election; how did that work out for us?

Phil, we have to remember that the democrats have other things working for them that fatten their voter base. They have the minority and Hispanic vote and those that live off government. That's pretty much 51% of the population.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 10:43 AM

So Reeder...Why is it when you or Sham are asked to lay down some facts you completely disappear?

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philunderwood

Jul-25-13 10:19 AM

That’s a great response, wwhickok, but to discuss the topic further would require a thread of its own.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 10:06 AM

Phil, that is an EXTREMELY fair question. When I say compromise, I think what I mean is what Spike just said. Being able to critically think and apply proper logic and compassion. The ability to regain and sustain order without further deteriorating society.

Negoiating laws & legislation so that they consider both sides of every coin. Regardless of how Congress is set up, this is something I do not believe is currently done, at least not efficiently enough.

You're right that compromise can lead to more central planning which can actually lead to more problems down the road. Compromise is a thin sheet of ice and if you're not very careful, you'll end up beneath the frozen waters wishing you had never stepped foot on the lake in the first place.

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philunderwood

Jul-25-13 9:44 AM

We had a moderate running in the last election; how did that work out for us?

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-25-13 9:41 AM

Spike, I completely agree! Give me a candidate that is closer to center and they will get my vote and the vote of many Independents. And we will soon make up the majority of voters.

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philunderwood

Jul-25-13 9:39 AM

Wwhickok, how about explaining to us just what a compromise government should look like? As we move from free market Capitalism toward Fascism and Socialism compromise will inevitably lead to more central planning. How do you determine where to stop?

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-25-13 9:33 AM

Thank you enigma, I couldn't have said it better myself.

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spike2

Jul-25-13 9:32 AM

Gysgt is correct as is wwhickok. I am a democrat but agree with many positions of the Right. Anyone who is strictly aligned in thought with one agenda lacks an ability to think critically. More of us are closer to the middle than the extremists wish to accept. Give us a good, moderate candidate (not a wing-nut), in 2016. They will win. Everyone is tired. let's just get things in order but retain a sense of compassion. There is and always was room for both.

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enigma

Jul-25-13 9:30 AM

Chuck,"GysgtUSMC, you don't trust the government period on anything."

Why would you? The government is the largest organization in the world an it has virtually unlimited power. It is as corrupt as any organization in the world. Why would you trust them? While government is necessary, a government the size of ours is not. It is self-evident that more government means less freedom, but that is where Mr Rinker's letter comes in. You see Chuck, I acknowledge the need for some government, but I do not trust it. Only a fool would fully trust someone with that much power, unless of course that someone is God.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-25-13 9:28 AM

As far as Phil's letter Mr Reeder, I commented on it earlier and agreed with Phil and the problems as I see it with Central Planning. I didn't see anything from you to "debate" my view.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 9:26 AM

"A community is a collective, a uniting of individuals"

That is the one thing you've said I actually agree with. Webster's did you justice.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 9:24 AM

Here is another fact.

At least once a week (though not every week) we see a LTE in the paper Right vs. Left. This right here, that's part of the problem, waging wars against each other over "Labels". Now, I get there is meaning behind those labels and that is what differientiates them and is why they are used in the first place but there is an excessive use of labels and some people really seem to be hung up on them.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 9:22 AM

You want me to listen to you Reeder? Come to the table with some REAL facts on your issues. Otherwise don't even pull out the chair.

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wwhickok

Jul-25-13 9:21 AM

You want me to listen to your views right?

Fine, I'm willing, throw some FACTS at me to back them up. Give me a reason behind your viewpoints. Give me something worth listening to. When you can do that, I'm all ears.

My current view point, my current focus, making a change in the city of Williamsport. Seriously that is what I'm currently focused on. Here's some FACTS.

Almost every week there is at least 1 shooting.

Today I read in the paper that over 50 people were sentenced in court.

Drugs and violence a serious problem in Williamsport.

Soon innocent bystanders are going to get hurt (this isn't so much a fact as much as it is a very reasonable and logical opinion)

The community is capable of taking action. Willing? Maybe not, but capable very much so.

Excuses don't solve problems.

Those are facts and I can do this all day long.

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enigma

Jul-25-13 9:20 AM

Sham,"Are there any Right-Wingers, who CAN'T read "the Left's" individual-minds??!!!"

The left doesn't have individual minds. They are part of the collective. That is the whole premise of the left. It is therefore not necessary to read their minds, you need only listen to their collective speak. Most of those on the left have no thought at all, individual or otherwise. They just regurgitate the information they have been programmed with and call it thought. Sham is the perfect example. Everything he posts is from some liberal blog and he assumes that everyone else is only spewing talking points. Notice how often he references 'Porky Limbaugh' and 'Faux News'. He thinks that those who disagree with him do so, not because of reasoned thought, but because of blind obedience to an ideology. That's what he does, so that must be what everybody does.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-25-13 9:18 AM

Umm Mr Reeder I worked for the government for many years. While I had many occasions to personally witness the massive amount of waste in government, it doesn't mean I don't support government. What I don't support is the monstrosity that this government has become and the over reaching it often practices in. Government and it's representatives are suppose to be working "for the people". That concept left D.C. a very long time ago.

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