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The snowball

July 26, 2013

I thoroughly enjoyed the letter from the owners of the Pajama factory. As landlords in the city, we have been saying the same thing for years....

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 3:45 AM

So Mims would rather we keep crime hidden from her possible tenants and let them worry about it once they move in. That sounds like good business practice. How about we don't allow any crime to be reported so it doesn't hurt tourism or it doesn't keep away potential new people thinking about relocating to Williamsport. Would that suit you MiM?

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 3:47 AM

It's because of this reporting that people may start to wake up and see the increasing problem this city is having with drugs and crime.

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USABorn

Jul-26-13 3:55 AM

GysgtUSMC - 3:47 AM

"It's because of this reporting that people may start to wake up and see the increasing problem this city is having with drugs and crime."

Isn't it a shame that crime and Philly are so often together in those news stories?

Remember the movie, "Escape from New York," with Kurt Russell? After removal of the Liberty Bell and other historial artifacts, that's what should be done with Philly!

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 6:16 AM

There was a stabbing in the city last night... the violence continues.

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 6:29 AM

First of all, I assumed it would be just a matter of time before you wrote a LTE of this nature Mim, especially with how many people absolutely disagreed with you on the forums the other day.

Francine, ACTUCALLY, I was at a meeting with someone yesterday who was AT that meeting on Scott Street and they said that it was actually a quite positive meeting; that the Sun Gazette's illustration of the negativity was a flat out lie.

The biggest problem in Williamsport when it comes to perception IS the Sun Gazette. 95% of what they print is negative.

As for the Landlords, BACK GROUND CHECKS! Do I need to spell it out for you in crayon? Seriously if you're not doing it then you have NO RIGHT to complain about your tenants turning out to be criminals.

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LeisureSuitLarry

Jul-26-13 6:40 AM

USA, I couldn't agree more. I always say ship 'em off to some island, and use the Escape from NY reference a lot too. I'm all for it, no more jails, no more abbreviated sentences. You want to be a criminal? Fine, we have an island for you. You want to be a junkie? Fine, we have an island for you. Kind of like my DVR... set it and forget it; Ship 'em and forget 'em.

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Magic1

Jul-26-13 6:40 AM

Don't tell mim to do background checks cuz she already has good tenants lol...I mean they stiff her the water bill all the time! She can pick good tenants...laughable!!! It won't take long for mim to start mixing and matching quotes to fit her argument. And I give it by noon that she insults and name calls people that disagree with her! She can't debate facts and knowledge cuz she isn't capable of it. It was only a matter of time before a LTE was written to protect her interests...I really hope this landlord/tenant bill goes through as it will show mim and others how to be responsible landlords and are held responsible for their inaction, ignorance, and apathy!

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 7:10 AM

"The biggest problem in Williamsport when it comes to perception IS the Sun Gazette. 95% of what they print is negative."

Wwhickok I would have to disagree. You want to see negative reporting, turn on the television. That is sensationalism. When a shooting or other senseless crime happens in this city, the SG covers the story for one, maybe two editions and follows up if an arrest is made. They don't do countless stories covering the matter. And if you read the entire paper, there are often many good articles covering good things that take place in this city. I am extremely critical when it comes to the journalism we have today and most times I don't even bother watching main stream media. I think in most cases the SG does fair and responsible reporting. You are relying on someone's opinion that was at the meeting, but I would venture to say that there were also people there that are disgusted with the crime in this city AND Campana.

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spike2

Jul-26-13 7:45 AM

Skip it Mim. I don't believe the victim was sitting in a stranger's home. The alleged shooter was apparently not a stranger to the home or the victim. This was not a shooting in the street. Get it yet? The articles aren't hurting Scott Street, crime is. It appears to me that you care a whole lot less about the residents and crime than about continuing to collect rent. If you think these areas are really so nice form a landlords group. Do records check. Credit matters but records matter more.A credit report will show limited credit but no debt if someone spent the 5 years, from 18 to 23 in state prison. i don't feel any sympathy for landlords in that area. My sympathy is with the homeowners who invested their money in homes and are now stuck. I went to Scott Street and the conditions are disgusting. Again, the older homeowners are where are sympathy should lie.

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spike2

Jul-26-13 7:46 AM

whoops, should be "our"

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 7:51 AM

Gys, I agree that that the television is even worse than SG. But I don't agree that SG isn't negative. Yesterday alone there were 7 articles on the website alone that were negative, 7 of 9 to be exact and on top of that there were 35 arrests reported.

If that isn't negative media I don't know what is.

Are you suggesting to me that NOTHING positive has happened this week? C'mon now..I know you're smarter than that.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 7:58 AM

Spot on Spike. Local government as well as all of us have been turning a blind eye for quite some time to the increasing deterioration of this city. Everything is concentrated on center city and bringing money to the city. It reminds me when we deployed to Olongapo City in the Philippines. The area directly outside the base was clean and a lot of money was dumped into it to attract the service men and women. But you only had to walk a block from that area to see the true conditions that people lived in. Honestly, I think the SG should saturate more coverage on the crime and problems in this city and continue to do so until we see results.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 8:00 AM

Wwhichok that isn't negative reporting. That is the reporting of FACTS. It is what it is.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 8:07 AM

Take a look at the business section that covers local businesses or look at the outdoor section, or the showcase section. It's not all negative, but if there are negative things happening to this city, it should be reported. I know you are working with the Mayor to try and make improvements, and I commend you for that. But if anything you should welcome this coverage so that maybe more people will get disgusted and want to get involved.

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nobud74

Jul-26-13 8:15 AM

Exactly, Spike. I have three rentals and have put tons of money into them. I want to protect and maximize my investment. So, I pay a realtor to do all the work for me. They do the credit and reference checks, they draw up the contracts and I pay them half a month's rent. I get good tenants who take care of the property and stay. I take care of maintenance timely and use qualified contractors so it is done right. These things cut into the profit, but allow me to charge more and so in the long run I make more. It really is much easier than Mim makes it out to be.

If you don't do those things, you are contributing to the problem. Spend the money, do the work and protect your investment. You will help to protect the neighborhood at the same time.

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 8:55 AM

To degree, I agree, however, when you're 'skewing the truth' which is what SG is doing, it stops being factual and starts becoming slander.

It's a very thin line.

I disagree that we need more saturation of negative publicity. I think we already have plenty of it, but at the same time, I get what you're saying.

Frankly, I think one of the biggest things that needs to change is the individuals who are a part of the City Council. I think that entire Council needs replaced.

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 9:02 AM

Gys, I don't 'not welcome' the coverage, but I'd prefer it be portrayed accurately.

For example, if they were writing 7 articles of negative and 7 artciles of positive, I wouldn't mind it so much. It's like they're suggesting nothing good ever happens here.

Also, a lot of the outdoors and regional stuff isn't even stuff about Williamsport. Almost never have I seen anything listed in the "regional" section that is, though I'm sure that's why they call it Region.

My issue is that it's very much portrayed that every day a murder is committed. I'm sure that I've said in the past "if we don't read about a shooting a week" but in reality that isn't true.

We have NOT had 52 shootings in the last 12 months, not even close. look it up, that's a FACT.

Is there an escalating drug problem? Absolutely. But this isn't something the city can just get rid of overnight. IT REQUIRES Landlord/tenant cooperation. Stop renting to criminals, start reporting supsicious behavio

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 9:08 AM

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behavior. Look beyond the color of someone's skin. Do you see something that isn't 'normal' for your neighborhood? Or that you think SHOULDN'T be normal for your neighborhood?

Report it. The best case scenario(or worst depending on how you look at it), it turns out to be nothing. The worst case scenario (or best depending on how you look at it) it turns out that you just helped catch criminals committing a crime.

Take responsibility and accountability and help the city. Help yourself.

Do you really think the city, the police, are going to win this fight against drugs without our involvement? You're kidding yourself if you think that, trust me.

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LaughIn

Jul-26-13 9:29 AM

This Newspaper is poorly edited, facts are not checked, opinions given as facts, and lies SOLD as truth. Negativity sells, second problem. Financial advertisers get to politically spin your words for money? Real big problem.

Do you seriously believe that this newspaper is going to be the eye opener for bringing the truth to the public? What is their working relationship with City Hall? From what I have heard and read (wrong information, GUESSED, with no ones name attached just Staff)not to good.

Maybe the SG can become a stepping stone for selling truth and start by building a bridge across 4th Street first.

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LaughIn

Jul-26-13 9:29 AM

This Newspaper is poorly edited, facts are not checked, opinions given as facts, and lies SOLD as truth. Negativity sells, second problem. Financial advertisers get to politically spin your words for money? Real big problem.

Do you seriously believe that this newspaper is going to be the eye opener for bringing the truth to the public? What is their working relationship with City Hall? From what I have heard and read (wrong information, GUESSED, with no ones name attached just Staff)not to good.

Maybe the SG can become a stepping stone for selling truth and start by building a bridge across 4th Street first.

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 9:53 AM

LaughIn, I've heard from the Mayor himself, the Relationship between SG and City Hall, is DEFINITELY NOT a good one.

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enoughalready

Jul-26-13 10:05 AM

1. Mim if you think Scott St is such a good place to live why don't you live there? Oh that's right, you prefer to pontificate from Duboistown. 2. While I applaud your efforts to mobilize wwhickok, let's not get ahead of ourselves in praising Gabe. He is still the same man who storms out of meetings when he doesn't get his way. 3. While the Sun Gazette is no Pulitzer winning paper, it does a decent job-- most of the time. It is no secret Gabe holds a great amount of disdain, ie the election night fake paper, for the publication. See point 2.

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 10:21 AM

I'm not completely siding with Gabriel Campana. I told him flat out, while I understood he was a politician he was still one of us and he and the rest of us both need to keep that in mind.

I'm not saying that he doesn't do anything politically motivated. However, I AM saying that SG is as much part of the problem as anyone.

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wwhickok

Jul-26-13 10:26 AM

As for the rest of your commentary EA, I don't disagree with you. Scott Street used to be a really nice place to live, it's not anymore. Frankly ALOT of Williamsport has become 'run down'. One really big issue I think, having nothing to do with Scott Street, is that for the most part, all the 'Projects' are located in one central area. RIGHT NEXT TO THE ASSISTANCE OFFICE. Just sayin'.. Idk who's idea it was to make one specific area the low income housing central and stock all the Welfare collecting, low income housing citizens in one place. They should be spread out in different communities within the city. That's part of the reason, imo, that you only see certain groups of people in certain areas. They've become too secluded to specific areas.

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GysgtUSMC

Jul-26-13 10:28 AM

I think I would rather have a local newspaper that questions local government decisions, than have national media that gives a free pass and praises every decision of this administration and democratic leadership. I find it odd in fact that a conservative leaning paper does question conservative leadership and I give them credit for doing so.

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