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Unfair to landlords

August 3, 2013

Mayor Gabriel Campana believes that "absentee landlords" may be responsible for the rise in crime....

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Magic1

Aug-03-13 2:09 PM

And if any if you were at the meeting at curtin they discussed how this regrestration will help in the eviction process making it easier and faster. But it's just easier to complain about it than actually educate urself on things

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Newberry22

Aug-03-13 1:13 PM

To answer the question, an absentee landlord is one who either lives too far away to keep track of their properties or they just don't care to even drive by their properties or stop by once in a while to make sure the tenants are not trashing the property or causing grief the the neighborhood. Most landlord I know would not fall into this category.

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Tgrammiex4

Aug-03-13 1:02 PM

Magic1, how many units do you own?

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fujack2

Aug-03-13 11:35 AM

I agree the water bill should be the tenants responsibility I was just left with a $300.00 bill when my tenant left. I also think the laws should change for and eviction. I evicted my tenant in November and with all his appeals he managed to keep possession until May 10th when I was given possession by the constable. I had to wait 10 days for him to notify me he wanted his property then another 30 for him to remove it. As it turned out he abandoned his property so I was left with the task of removing it all. On top of all this he was put out by codes on January 25th for excessive hoarding and animal feces.The man tried everything to block the eviction which he was unsuccessful but it took my time in court not to mention the cost of the mess I am now cleaning out of the unit. I lost over 6 months rent on the property plus repairs for damage he cause and the cost of the trash removal is thousands of dollars. I can take him to court but will he pay probably not.

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Magic1

Aug-03-13 11:18 AM

Mim.....it's not all about making ur properties nice (which there are not)! It's about being a responsible landlord. Being responsible means, putting a quality person in (not someone just to get a check), it's also being respectful to the neighborhood. People don't want trouble people in their neighborhood...by just taking the check, not following up in tenants, not knowing what is happening in ur rentals, and ignoring issues and concerns from neighbors you are allowing this type of behavior to happen (drug and violence). The registration is going to hold people accountable for what happens at there units! Be part of the solution not hindering it!! But I keep forgetting that you don't understand logic, reason, and solutions......you only understand ur bottom line!!!

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MimLogue

Aug-03-13 11:07 AM

doesnt matter what I do granite countertops new carpets brand new bathrooms that area I can only get subpar people, so I try to choose the best subpar person available. However as a landlord my job is to uphold codes and provide livable housing, I am not a police officer I wil not micro manage my tenants lives. I am not their mother I do not call them to make sure they got home ok, or were not staying out late last night, If they commit a crime I can do nothing about it. WOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE ME

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MimLogue

Aug-03-13 11:03 AM

I am very happy landlords are finally opening their mouths and sticking up for themselves. Yeah!!,

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twinder

Aug-03-13 10:48 AM

As Mim has already stated, the water bill should follow the user. I have a hard time understanding how it is allowed that a government entity can charge one person for something that another person uses. Oh, wait, never mind.

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twinder

Aug-03-13 10:45 AM

So, basically, most landlords are eeking by collecting rent and hoping the ivestment in the property as a whole shows a return, if, and when, they ever decide to sell the property. Makes sense, as property values usually go up over long periods of time. I used to work in retail where many landlords would come for supplies for repairs. The horror stories I've heard back then are the same ones now. The law favors the tenant and not the property owner. That needs to change.

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MimLogue

Aug-03-13 10:40 AM

Now instead of Jessie landlords are the cause of all negativity in our wonderful city. HAAAAAA!

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MimLogue

Aug-03-13 10:38 AM

Maybe we should all think back we were all renters at one time?? and not all tenants are bad the policies of our city allow tenants to get away with paying their water bills put the blame where it is due Bill Nichols and his water board have been & are hurting this city. Landlords should be represented on that board!

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fromtheport

Aug-03-13 9:36 AM

continued ... register tenants, this will make tenants realize that if they are the scumbags, as long as they are in williamsport, they will be able to be tracked down. But with 30k renters this will require codes to employ another full time person costing landlords more money so, the fee should be directly billed to anyone with a change of address. That would promote people not to move and take pride in the area they live in. Most landlords would be in support of this oridinance if they could be gaurenteed it wont cost them more. Years ago there was a rental property inspection ordinance where landlords need to get there properties inspected, they passed this as it will be free, shortly after it passed, a fee was attached to start billing landlords, and there is nothingg lanlords could do about it. I could go on but you get the point, Rentals are a buisness to make money, but we do need help from the city and we are not police officers patroling the streets.

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fromtheport

Aug-03-13 9:28 AM

continued ... critizied that I am greedy, I rent to someone subpar despite that the area that attracts them, I am a slumlord or absentee. This is a buisness of renting and making money not a police officer for the city. Codes in this city are horrible, they are weak, they need to be stronger in enforcing, quicker at fining, and they need to start focusing on owner occupied areas, I have several rentals that have owner occupied houses around them, and the owners are worse then the rentals because they become complacent on the exterior of their property, they figure they live there so who cares. We need the water bills to start following the tenants, because guess what those scumbags that dont pay the water are also the scumbags creating a lot of crime, If tenants are ultimately responesible for this bill and not the service address, the scum will evidentually not be able to live anywhere around here becuase none of them will have water. As a landlord I am in support of the ordinance to

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fromtheport

Aug-03-13 9:18 AM

continued ... key to a sucessful buisness, but some of the properties we buy we bought a while ago, for me my oldest property i bought 10 years ago, I still owe a mortgage on it, the area was a good area 10 years ago and now it had degraded because of the people that moved into the area, doesnt matter what I do granite countertops new carpets brand new bathrooms that area I can only get subpar people, so I try to choose the best subpar person available. However as a landlord my job is to uphold codes and provide livable housing, I am not a police officer I wil not micro manage my tenants lives. I am not their mother I do not call them to make sure they got home ok, or were not staying out late last night, If they commit a crime I can do nothing about it. Im not absentee but subpar people are a fact of the buisness and more and more owning and renting in williamsport is a degrading situtation and less and less profitable every year. If I raise rents I am priced too high and get

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fromtheport

Aug-03-13 9:10 AM

I am a small time landlord in williamsport with slightly over 10 units. Reading the past letters let me tell you it is a profitable buisness but it is low margin. Most of my doubles are around 600-700/month water sewer, thrash included, with that being said my standard morgage is around 700, thrash for a double is another 100 and water for that building is budgeted at another 100, an extra 100 for various other stuff that pops up like lawn care minor repairs. With that being said I make anywhere from $300-500/month, Nothing you can retire from with just 1 building. It is a scalable buisness the more you own the more you can make. However 1 tenant not paying 1 month rent file an eviction takes another month, go in and clean paint advertise and rent to someone else takes another month, now my profit for that building for that year is reduced to almost nothing because I still had to pay the mortgage taxes water thrash etc for those 3 months. Every landlord knows finding good tenants is

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Capricorn1

Aug-03-13 6:58 AM

I am not a landlord, however if I was I would certainly maintain and keep an eye on my investment. Why would I rent to anyone that has bad credit or a criminal background? Doesn't sound like wise business practices to me. To say that is being discriminate, then so be it.

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CarlHiller

Aug-03-13 6:39 AM

"Responsible landlords run background checks and credit checks". I agree though the problem with it would be that the landlords who did this and did not rent to someone would be called racist by the race mongers simply because a background check or credit check would deny roughly 50% of black applicants and roughly 25% of white applicants. I know the truth will hurt those on the left, but a business, which a landlord is, cannot afford to rent to those who will not pay, just like a bank cannot afford to loan money to those who will not pay. So landlords do your due diligence and do the checks, just don't deny them the "right" to rent from you.

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Tgrammiex4

Aug-03-13 6:35 AM

This may be taken as "profiling or racist" , I don't mean it to be, but I think it's relevant.Many who rent in Williamsport are welfare recipients. They may have never established any credit nor have a criminal background.These days landlords cannot dicriminate for any reason for fear of lawsuit.It appears that many of the drug dealers/ thugs are either receiving benefits or living with someone who is. A landlord can only do so much. If nothing negative shows up on credit/ background checks what is he/she to do? There are also a handful of slumlords who don't care who they rent to as long as the tenants don't ask them to fix anything.

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LeisureSuitLarry

Aug-03-13 6:15 AM

Sounds to me, from recent letters and articles, not just this one, that being a landlord in the City of Williamsport is a real pain in the tookus. I wouldn't blame all landlords if they just said screw it and put their properties up for sale. Maybe the city could buy them out and become the Landlord-of-all-landlords and then Gabe and Council can gripe about themselves being absentee.

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streetmachine

Aug-03-13 5:54 AM

it is the city of williamsport leaders to serve and protect us citzens they mad this mess now they should clean it up not by putting us in the middle

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Capricorn1

Aug-03-13 3:30 AM

No, landlords are ultimately responsible for who they rent their property to. Responsible landlords run background checks and credit checks and don't allow just anyone into the neighborhood just to get a check each month. That is being proactive and doing their part to keep the neighborhood safe. The police and the rest of the neighborhood should not have to police someone else's property for them. If you're not available to properly manage your property, hire someone local that can. Rental properties make up 60% of the community. Responsible landlords would go a long way to addressing many problems in the city.

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