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Local Zimmerman verdict reaction: Vigilance, not vigilantism

August 5, 2013

Vigilance, not vigilantism. No weapons, other than pepper spray for self-defense. More reliance on paper and cellphones....

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SilverFeather

Aug-08-13 10:48 AM

I'm as Liberal as a person gets and still owns and carries guns, BUT this one little fabrication keeps making it's way into every multi-media story. Here: "Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Fla., got out of his car after police instructed him not to." The "POLICE" NEVER told George Zimmerman to stay in his car! NEVER! It's was a 911 dispatcher who said this and he had much less education in law enforcement than GZ did. Jamere, I agree 100%. The only thing you can do to thwart crime is to be prepared, careful and ready to combat it. I would also say, when a new person, especially a child/teen comes to live with their non-custodial parent, introduce them to the neighborhood watch people so they are recognized. Had this been a program implemented in Sanford, it may have saved a life.

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Capricorn1

Aug-06-13 9:53 AM

Bill we did the same thing in MD, but instead of writing down plate numbers, we sat on the porch across the street and used a camera. We took pictures of not only the plates but the people going in and out of the place. All the photos had the dates and times and we turned everything over to the police officer who was our neighborhood watch coordinator. He used these pictures to start an investigation and within a month the problem was gone and arrests were made.

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Woolrich

Aug-06-13 8:58 AM

Racial pimps ignor all facts and evidence to hear themself talk. If anything this trial has taught us is just how racist the media and certain black leaders are. Its discussing.

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Rob999

Aug-06-13 2:59 AM

"Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Fla., got out of his car after police instructed him"

The police dispatcher never told Zimmerman to STAY in his truck or RETURN to his truck. He simply advised Zimmerman not to follow Trayvon. Zimmerman was walking, not driving, when he was told this and he said "OK".

Dear God, why is so difficult for a journalist to get this right? All you have to listen to a simple phone call.

And if you're wondering whether Zimmerman complied with the dispatcher's request, please review the evidence markers associated with the incident. Some actual journalism!

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BillTriumph

Aug-05-13 8:28 PM

I personally know of a mother with young children who helped police bust a drug house (drugs, guns, cash) - she used a piece of chalk to write the license plate numbers of all the people in and out of that place on the sidewalk in front of her house. It took a lot of time and patience but she got them off her street. But the vigilance never ends.

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gavinf56

Aug-05-13 6:17 PM

"Yeah...sure...much like Shawn Berry, Lawrence Brewer, and John King, right??" - MrShaman

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of Bernhard Goetz.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-05-13 12:59 PM

"You could carry-around your "piece" in one o' those Andy Dufresne style "Good Books"."--MrShaman

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So you are back on bashing hammers again!! :-)

Maybe if some of the drug dealers were invited to church, they might make a life changing decision and neighborhood watch people wouldn't be needed.

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joshb729

Aug-05-13 10:25 AM

George Zimmerman has more courage than everyone combined who has posted on this page so far (including myself). Instead of villified, he should have been awarded a civic medal.

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joshb729

Aug-05-13 10:23 AM

Woolrich is right. George Zimmerman is a hero and I'd love for him to serve on my block! If we had more George Zimmerman's, the world would be a MUCH better place.

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MrShaman

Aug-05-13 10:19 AM

"Give it up.....Zimmerman is a hero." - Woolrich

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Yeah...sure...much like Shawn Berry, Lawrence Brewer, and John King, right??

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MrShaman

Aug-05-13 10:14 AM

"Let's face it, Zimmerman was a volunteer acting out of the need to supplement the local law enforcement presence because Zimmerman's neighbors were still having problems with house robberies." - Tedeaux

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That was HIS "story", anyhow.

At least he's (now/FORTUNATELY) preoccupied with doing "personal-appearances".

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See:

George Zimmerman Stopped For Speeding In North Texas

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MrShaman

Aug-05-13 10:04 AM

"Sometimes the enemy knows the less about me, the better. Keep them guessing." - ToTEXASfromPA

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I'd imagine posing (as a "believer") should be "cover" (enough), for you.

You could carry-around your "piece" in one o' those Andy Dufresne style "Good Books".

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joshb729

Aug-05-13 9:39 AM

Wow, it sure would be nice if Mark Maroney would get his facts straight on the Zimmerman case before writing about it.

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Capricorn1

Aug-05-13 9:27 AM

Fredzz we can "what if" this case to death. I would be willing to bet that if you ask Zimmerman now he would have wished he wasn't out there alone. His life has been ruined and I'm sure he too wishes maybe he could have handled things differently. Regardless what some want to believe, I don't think he's racist and I'm sure he has regrets and remorse. But at the time he felt he had no choice.

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rick424

Aug-05-13 9:20 AM

Go ahead, make my day

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Fredzz

Aug-05-13 9:13 AM

Capricorn1

partial Quote:

If he was with someone as they recommend in the program he wouldn't had needed the gun.

End Quote:

How can you be so sure..?

What if his Watch-Partner panics and runs away, and the attacker beats him to Death..! Just because he was following the attacker.

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Woolrich

Aug-05-13 9:09 AM

Give it up.....Zimmerman is a hero. Quit pushing your own agenda by disarming citizens that legally choose to defend themselves. and yes......criminals do prefer unarmed victims.

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Capricorn1

Aug-05-13 8:13 AM

There are a lot of former military and retired military in this city and I have no problem with them having a concealed weapon permit and carrying while involved in these watches. They all have had extensive training on the use of firearms. I do however have a problem with just anyone carrying while on these watches. While I agree with the verdict and feel Zimmerman was justified in his actions, I do believe as part of neighborhood watch he made two mistakes; he was out there alone and he chose to carry his weapon. If he was with someone as they recommend in the program he wouldn't had needed the gun.

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idiottwo

Aug-05-13 7:54 AM

I didn't see Zimmerman as a vigilanty. Though depending on your news outlet, you may.

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Tedeaux

Aug-05-13 6:57 AM

Let's face it, Zimmerman was a volunteer acting out of the need to supplement the local law enforcement presence because Zimmerman's neighbors were still having problems with house robberies. What he got for his troubles was his butt whipped, a broken nose and put in a position where he felt his life was in danger enough to where he took the life of another human, all while his oh so helpful neighbors talked on the phone to the 911 dispatchers. The man was screaming for help and no one came to his aid. If someone had, Trayvon Martin might still be alive today. Don't ask your neighbor to protect your stuff with his life if you aren't prepared to defend your neighbor when he does!

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sideliner

Aug-05-13 6:40 AM

Wow! How refreshing to hear a common sense approach to neighborhood patrols. Carrying firearms just opens the door for violent confrontation like was seen in the Florida case. Watch and report to the police any suspicious activity and let them do what they (not you) are trained to do. Good news for Williamsport here!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-05-13 6:02 AM

Henderson said. "No one is carrying arms..."

Reeder said. "I don't carry anything but pad and pencil."

"You carry something that is non-lethal, such as pepper spray."-- Hornier

"We take a whistle and a flashlight," said Frank Welteroth

Said Jane Dirk, "...Nobody should carry a gun on a neighborhood watch."

"I don't believe in carrying guns." --Sally Wiegand

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I can understand personal choices and appreciate that no one wants to recreate a Martin-Zimmerman incident but to broadcast this choice to the world appears short-sighted to me. Sometimes the enemy knows the less about me, the better. Keep them guessing.

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MrShaman

Aug-05-13 5:53 AM

"I would also advocate that all law abiding citizens obtain their concealed carry permit and carry a gun. Keep in mind, criminals prefer unarmed victims." - Jamere

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Yeah...sure...why should criminals have all-the-"fun", right??

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Jamere

Aug-05-13 3:40 AM

It's nice that these people are volunteering their time to try and help make the community safer. However what the community really needs is more police officers on the streets. I know it would not be popular with most people but if taxes need to be raised or other projects have to take a back seat to make way for the addition of more police officers then so be it. This crime explosion needs to be kept in check. The "problem areas" need to be saturated with police patrol and every citizen needs to report suspicious or criminal activity, not just the neighborhood watch. I would also advocate that all law abiding citizens obtain their concealed carry permit and carry a gun. Keep in mind, criminals prefer unarmed victims.

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