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August 7, 2013

It is a PR nightmare: In a town that desperately depends on college students and Little League Baseball, a heroin epidemic and a wave of violence hurt's Williamsport's image as a safe plac....

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nobud74

Aug-07-13 3:35 AM

Why unarmed?

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Capricorn1

Aug-07-13 3:36 AM

I'm giving Richard the benefit of the doubt because I know how long it takes for letters to actually get published. Federal Grant money is being used to hire the two additional officers and the community IS getting the message and taking a stand through neighborhood watch programs. As for the special police unit being deployed to concentrate on drug interdiction, I'm not going to judge a new initiative until I can see the results of it.

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LeisureSuitLarry

Aug-07-13 6:04 AM

nobud, that was my first thought of a response as well. Why unarmed indeed?

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MrShaman

Aug-07-13 6:16 AM

"It is a PR nightmare: In a town that desperately depends on college students and Little League Baseball, a ****** epidemic and a wave of violence hurt's Williamsport's image as a safe place." - Richard James

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If you were (as) interested in National-news, you'd KNOW that...ever since George Bush expressed no interest in interfering-with opium-production, in Afghanistan...there has been an AVALANCHE of ******...nationWIDE!!!! Despite what (local) "conservatives" assume...this situation is NOT (primarily) a Williamsport-thing.

I'm guessing MOST people, who come to town (for The Series), are experiencing the same...back home.

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MrShaman

Aug-07-13 6:18 AM

That'd be..."an AVALANCHE of h e r o i n..."

Really, S-G. This is considered some kind of "evil"-word??

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MrShaman

Aug-07-13 6:28 AM

"nobud, that was my first thought of a response as well. Why unarmed indeed?" - LeisureSuitLarry

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You two DO realize that John Wayne shot (only) blanks, in all his flicks, right??

Chickenhawks, like him, made "shoot-'em-ups" LOOK "sexy", but...I'm assuming...the local-gendarmes would prefer every nut-job (with a weapon) NOT "step on their toes", while they're trying to do their job.

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CarlHiller

Aug-07-13 6:40 AM

Federal Grant money only lasts so long and sometimes the payback is higher than what is ever told by the elected officials. So when the Fed money stops, who pays for those added cops then? Adding cops dressed in black will do nothing to stem the crime issue. Put the Sheriffs dept to work on crime control instead of hiring more cops, institute a landlord license and nuisance landlord law. The PA Supreme Court in a 1994 decision by Justice John P. Flaherty, spent a great deal of time exploring the historical roots of the office of Sheriff and concluded that the powers developed as a matter of common law: “Though it may be unnecessary to cite additional authority, Blackstone confirms the common law power of the sheriff to make arrests without warrant for felonies and for breaches of the peace committed in his presence. Blackstone, Commentaries on the Common Law, Vol. IV, at 289. Indeed, such powers are so widely known and so universally recognized that it is hardly necessary to cite

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-07-13 6:48 AM

"Violence and illegal drugs hurt everybody. The entire community needs to step up and make a stand... Unarmed, of course."

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Maybe the public ought to carry baseball bats when they do Neighborhood Watch. The boys from the various LLB teams would probably teach the city residents how to swing the bat!

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GoBB62

Aug-07-13 6:53 AM

".the local-gendarmes would prefer every nut-job (with a weapon) NOT "step on their toes", while they're trying to do their job." -sham

Obviously, with that so-called intellect, you can't comprehend that the police can't be in every place at the same time.

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spike2

Aug-07-13 7:56 AM

You can't utilize the Sheriff's Department. We have a limited number of sheriffs. They are county employees, not city. The sheriffs handle all transport of inmates to court and ti state prisons, cover court room security(we have five courtrooms), act as process servers, etc. We would be in the same situation, to few sheriffs. The second issue is "committed in their presence". That is a red line.They literally have to visually observe the incident.

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CMReeder

Aug-07-13 8:14 AM

Why unarmed? It is because he is not supporting vigilantism.

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CMReeder

Aug-07-13 8:16 AM

Apparently it is easier to think the worst about the city, the people and our lives.

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slickthedryfly

Aug-07-13 8:18 AM

Buy up all the crown vics on ebay and get volunteers to drive real fast around the streets starting at dusk. Besides, with 49 or so cops you have, plus Penn tech. cops and the state police, Christ, you have an army. You want to see how many cops you have, invite occupy for a peaceful protest and see how many cops show up with batons and riot gear.

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Capricorn1

Aug-07-13 8:24 AM

Well said Spike. As to who is going to pay for the additional officers after the federal grant money runs out, the tax payers of course. The same tax payers whom I read countless letters from complaining that we didn't have enough police and how their tax dollars were being spent on everything but fighting crime. They got their wish. And Campana wants to hire 4 more I believe by 2016, and yes, the tax payers will pay for them too. That's why I've been preaching for everyone to get involved through neighborhood watches. You can add 10 more officers and continue to raise taxes and policing will still be 95% reactive. The only thing that can aid the police in being more proactive is when citizen's watch their neighborhoods and work with police to stop this crime.

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enigma

Aug-07-13 8:29 AM

Richard,"and despite what the mayor says, cops in black shirts won't solve the problem."

What color shirts should the police wear to make them more effective? What an idiotic statement. Almost as stupid as the 'unarmed of course' statement at the end. Why should a citizen out on the streets of a troubled neighborhood, looking for suspicious activity be unarmed, when the guys he's looking for, probably have guns. You wouldn't dream of sending the police to patrol that same area unarmed. Are citizens who don't work for the police department expendable? Do you know what you call an unarmed neighborhood watch volunteer? A victim. At least we can all say some nice things about him at the funeral. Morons like this letter writer seem willing to exchange a problem of drug dealers killing each other for a problem of drug dealers killing neighborhood watch volunteers. Sounds like a bad deal to me.

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MrShaman

Aug-07-13 8:29 AM

"Violence and illegal drugs hurt everybody. The entire community needs to step up and make a stand... Unarmed, of course."

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Maybe the public ought to carry baseball bats when they do Neighborhood Watch. The boys from the various LLB teams would probably teach the city residents how to swing the bat!" - ToTEXASfromPA

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What...your Mother wouldn't allow you to play LL, when you were younger?

I'm sure you could find some neighborhood kid, who'd show you the "finer-points" of swinging a bat.

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MrShaman

Aug-07-13 8:31 AM

".the local-gendarmes would prefer every nut-job (with a weapon) NOT "step on their toes", while they're trying to do their job." -sham

Obviously, with that so-called intellect, you can't comprehend that the police can't be in every place at the same time." - GoBB62

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...At least, you (and, George Zimmerman, obviously) HOPE so, right?

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MrShaman

Aug-07-13 8:35 AM

"Apparently it is easier to think the worst about the city, the people and our lives." - CMReeder

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...Especially for those folks who LIVE, to complain...as-LONG-as it never leads to (actually) doing anything.

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wwhickok

Aug-07-13 8:36 AM

Unarmed or not, the citizens of Williamsport DO need to step up. Everyone likes to complain, it seems very few of you want to do something about the problems.

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GoBB62

Aug-07-13 8:39 AM

".the local-gendarmes would prefer every nut-job (with a weapon) NOT "step on their toes", while they're trying to do their job." -sham

Obviously, with that so-called intellect, you can't comprehend that the police can't be in every place at the same time." - GoBB62

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"...At least, you (and, George Zimmerman, obviously) HOPE so, right?" - sham

No, it's called "reality". A concept you have trouble dealing with

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MrShaman

Aug-07-13 8:42 AM

"Do you know what you call an unarmed neighborhood watch volunteer? A victim." - enigma

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Do you know what you call an armed neighborhood watch volunteer?

Per recent-news...I guess that'd depend on his ethnicity.

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Capricorn1

Aug-07-13 8:50 AM

Shaman once again you chime in with totally worthless comments that offer nothing to the conversation. You are like a drunk at a family picnic that everyone has to put up with, but wishes he would just go away. And you really need to get over the Zimmerman trial. You, and people like you weren't able to convince anyone that you knew more than the local authorities or the jury.

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GoBB62

Aug-07-13 9:20 AM

" Do you know what you call an armed neighborhood watch volunteer?

Per recent-news...I guess that'd depend on his ethnicity." -sham

Behold, another race hustler!

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SteelerFan

Aug-07-13 11:02 AM

Sham: '...Especially for those folks who LIVE, to complain...as-LONG-as it never leads to (actually) doing anything.'

Says the keyboard commando.

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KrazyK

Aug-07-13 1:03 PM

Several who commented got it right. The people of the city need to step up and neighborhood watch groups may be the best approach.A suggestion for organization of such a group - pattern it after the Constitution Force set up by Gilberton, Pa. police chief Mark Kessler.

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