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Our real origins

August 8, 2013

Thank you, Mr. Phillip Miller of Montandon. You just confirmed that it was liberals and socialist who made the nation now known as the United States of America....

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Shulski

Aug-10-13 6:14 PM

My ancestors are ethnic people who came here in the late 1800s and worked hard in coal mines. They weren't slave owners wearing wigs. Screw the "Founding Fathers". "An assembly of demi-gods" Thomas Jefferson wrote. ********, Poland had more freedom and a constitution before America. Democracy was rearing its head all over the world. Nothing special about those wealthy, Anglo-Saxon elitists we mythicaly refer to as the "Founding Fathers". Probably never worked a day in their lives.

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USABorn

Aug-09-13 11:18 PM

MrShaman - 1:08 PM

"Aw, c'mon...what's really bothering you is...my sources are (consistently) correct..."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Sham is such a fool!!!!!!

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MrShaman

Aug-09-13 1:08 PM

MrShaman - 2:24 PM

"..."listening", being the operative-word...when you consider the T-Baggers' literacy-"issues"."

Sham is a poor person to talk about literacy considering his comments evolve from Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, PMSNBC (the Axis of Ignorance), youtube videos, and dumbocrat talking points!" - USABorn

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Aw, c'mon...what's really bothering you is...my sources are (consistently) correct...and, you're still hoping for the ol' Axis-Of-Ignorance to be correct (at least) ONCE!!!!

Keep tryin'. I'm having a GREAT time, discounting EVERYTHING you've been promised is "true"!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!

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Garben78

Aug-09-13 11:00 AM

News Bulletin the sun gazette has just issued Cmreeder a gag order

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mikekerstetter

Aug-09-13 6:46 AM

Ritty, that response was on the mark.

Getting rid of Corporate tax breaks is part of the greater tax reform proposed by Ryan. They were summarily rejected by those from the left because they also included tax reforms and simplification for the 'other 98%'.

It's time we reign in the IRS and the complicated tax code.

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mikekerstetter

Aug-09-13 6:29 AM

sideliner-"If the RNC pushes Rand Paul, rather than a candidate with a broader appeal, for a run against Hillary in '16, Republicans can again look for a loss."

If Hillary wins against anyone after her failure and lying performance as Secretary of State, our Country is a lot worse off intellectually and morally than I ever would have imagined.

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CaymanJim

Aug-09-13 1:19 AM

"Sorry Jim - 1801 was the start of the 19th century. The 18th century was in fact 1701 - 1801." V.Knauff

Our 21st Century began 01 JAN 2001.

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USABorn

Aug-08-13 10:47 PM

MrShaman - 2:24 PM

"..."listening", being the operative-word...when you consider the T-Baggers' literacy-"issues"."

Sham is a poor person to talk about literacy considering his comments evolve from Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, PMSNBC (the Axis of Ignorance), youtube videos, and dumbocrat talking points!

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USABorn

Aug-08-13 10:41 PM

MrShaman - 2:14 PM

"You'd have to jettison all o' those T-Baggin' rookies, from The House,"

MrShaman - 2:05 PM

Ya' gotta figure...our local T-Baggers are much-the-same as the others,

MrShaman - 2:24 PM

"..."listening", being the operative-word...when you consider the T-Baggers' literacy-"issues"."

And sham is into the P o r n yet again!! What little brain he has left, is going fast!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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USABorn

Aug-08-13 10:31 PM

MrShaman - 2:19 PM

"Romeny was (merely) the most-current Republican "throw-away" candidate...much like John McCain & Bob Dole. I don't expect Chris Christie has any desire to be the next, in 2016."

And did you learn that from Jon Stewart of the esteemed Axis of Ignorance?

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sideliner

Aug-08-13 5:53 PM

Thanks, Ritty. And I will enjoy my evening babysitting my 9 year old grandson... one of my favorite pastimes.

Let's just agree to disagree with our respective posts and let our personal views and support be demonstrated within the political process and our votes in coming elections.

Enjoy your evening as well!

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Ritty77

Aug-08-13 5:44 PM

Thanks, sideliner.

Obamacare has been declared a "train wreck" by some of its supporters. All the waivers and delays seem to indicate that the White House also believes it's not ready for implementation. The GOP's effort to defund Obamacare may be an extreme option, but may be necessary as a last resort.

Abortion is murder. Efforts to limit its use are not extreme, in my opinion.

Gun control only controls the law-abiding. Defending the 2nd amendment is not extreme.

There are no "severe cuts" to social and educational programs; they are at all-time highs. We are facing economic collapse from over-spending, but cut waste first.

Tea Party types agree with the elimination of corporate welfare and tax code simplification for all.

Rand Paul's wants to restore Constitutionally-limited government and personal responsibility. Given how far removed we are from these ideals, efforts to the contrary will be viewed as extreme by some.

Enjoy your evening.

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GoBB62

Aug-08-13 5:21 PM

"...right after Hillary's eight-years..." -sham

See:

Fantasy Aldo Nova

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sideliner

Aug-08-13 4:56 PM

Ritty, in answer to some of the Hard Right views I cannot get on board with: shutting down the government in order to defund Obamacare, opposition of same sex marriage, more and more limits on abortion, no conversations on sensible gun control, severe cuts to social and educational programs while subsidizing and reducing taxes for mega-profit making corporations, and infinitum.

And Rand Paul is top of the list.

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VinceKnauff

Aug-08-13 3:14 PM

The difference in this forum is the number of conservatives greatly outweigh the number of liberals

That's because literacy is a requirement to participate here. Except Sham seems to be an exception to that rule. Might have to rethink that reasoning..........

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VinceKnauff

Aug-08-13 3:09 PM

..."listening", being the operative-word...when you consider the T-Baggers' literacy-"issues".

Gee Sham - all you do is link to You Tube videos. Pot: meet Kettle.

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enigma

Aug-08-13 2:41 PM

Sham, Have you read even one of Friedman's 40 books? He is a Nobel Prize winning economist. A highly educated person such as yourself would never pass judgment on his opinions without at least reading one of his books, would you? This is a rhetorical question as I know you haven't read Friedman, or probably any other economist, unless they write a liberal blog. That would make you a big Krugman fan. the problem with that is that Krugman is wrong on just about everything. That happens when you build on a flawed foundation. What Friedman does that Krugman can't is to relate everything back to a foundation that is irrefutable. Try it Sham, you might learn something.

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mahs81

Aug-08-13 2:34 PM

A great American wished that one day we would judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character. Well, in keeping with that man's dream, many are judging the President by the content of his character and not the color of his skin. Unfortunately, those who drink the kool-aid would rather ignore his character and call those whom disagree all kind of bad names and accuse them of being extreme righties, tea baggers, faux news watchers, Rush worshippers or god forbid a NASCAR fan. Let’s face it he was at the time and continues to prove that he is not prepared or qualified to be POUS any more than those that claimed the former Governor of Alaska was to be the VPOUS. We can only hope that the next POUS regardless of race, sex or creed is qualified to do the job and once again raise this great nation out of the dump we have been in since about 2002. That is if 6 years of W and 8 of O have not made the hole to deep.

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MrShaman

Aug-08-13 2:24 PM

"There are a couple great Milton Friedman lectures in You Tube that talk about that exact habit of today's Liberals. In fact, you can learn more in an hour of listening to Milton Friedman than you will learn in a year of public school." - VinceKnauff

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..."listening", being the operative-word...when you consider the T-Baggers' literacy-"issues". If they'd try working ON their reading-skills...as-opposed-to listening to the Missouri Lard-Bucket, daily...their expanded-horizons would amaze even THEM!!!!

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MrShaman

Aug-08-13 2:19 PM

"Romney had to pander to the extreme right base to get the nod but then he had to try to come towards the middle for the general election. He said too many things in the primaries and didn't have enough time to soften those remarks in order to draw the independents to him after the primaries." - johnnyad3

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Romeny was (merely) the most-current Republican "throw-away" candidate...much like John McCain & Bob Dole. I don't expect Chris Christie has any desire to be the next, in 2016.

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MrShaman

Aug-08-13 2:14 PM

"Somewhere we have to meet in the middle or somewhere close to it if we expect to see any progress at all." - sideliner

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That's not the way Gridlock works.

You'd have to jettison all o' those T-Baggin' rookies, from The House, before you consider any form o' meeting-in-the-middle.

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MrShaman

Aug-08-13 2:05 PM

"When I read letters such as this I wonder why the Sun Gazette doesn't do the same thing. It smacks of playground banter of nah nah-nah nah-nah nah." - Capricorn1

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Ya' gotta figure...our local T-Baggers are much-the-same as the others, nationwide...NASCAR-fans, who'd just-recently "discovered" politics..."coincidentally", right after we'd elected the first Black-President. They're not the most-sophisticated folks...when it comes to politics...but, they're trying.

By the time we elect our first Hispanic-President...right after Hillary's eight-years...they just might have the process figured-out. It should be pretty-amusing, watching them trashing the new-minorities (then); themselves.

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Capricorn1

Aug-08-13 1:14 PM

KrazyK I would have to disagree. While Reeder's views are extremely hard left with no cushion for intelligent debate or conversation, many others on here tow closer to center. Yes there are those that are also far right, but you can pick out the extremes on both sides and I just choose to ignore them. Reeder's problem is most times he doesn't put much thought or fact in what he writes or comments on and most times they come off with the "I know you are, but what am I" mentality.

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enigma

Aug-08-13 1:07 PM

KrazyK, Finally, a liberal comes to the defense of poor Chuck. He offers no backup, but at least some defense. Good for you. All of the other liberals are too scared to defend such outright foolishness and lies. Krazy calls it talking points. I'm not sure that would pass muster, but hey,why not run it up the old flag pole? Krazy says that being in the majority doesn't make you right. He's right, but maybe he should tell that to the Obama voters.

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KrazyK

Aug-08-13 12:45 PM

Mr. Reeder's devout liberalism shows in his letters and he tries to confirm his liberal talking points. His letters are no different than devout conservatives who attempt to do the same with their talking points. The difference in this forum is the number of conservatives greatly outweigh the number of liberals; so Reeder takes a beating. Just because all the conservatives pat each other on the back and agree with each other doesn't make their points any more valid.

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