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Some fear proposed ordinance change as headache to business

August 9, 2013

“Don’t use it as an excuse for crime and paint me with the brush of a slumlord....

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streetmachine

Aug-09-13 10:50 PM

is not about crime it about money "If we show we have more than 29,304, the city would be eligible for more money from the government," he said campana said

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Woolrich

Aug-09-13 5:30 PM

I don't think its a race issue but does anyone really have the guts and integrity to look at the statistics and see what the percentages of crimes are commited between black and white in the city of Williamsport???? We tip toe around the obvious as not to offend anyone. Its ridiculous and unjust not to report the facts so we can get them out on the table and address them. Statistics don't lie and we shouldn't try to hide the truth. Lets see what demographic is really causing all the crime. Its much easier to put out the fire if we know where the smoke is comming from.

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fromtheport

Aug-09-13 3:23 PM

My comment was to illistrate how everyone sterotypes landlords but when it comes to something like race it is wrong to profile. And to illistrate that 50 properties is a very low number to say problems come from rentals, just like 50 black people would not be a good size sample for the entire group.if majority of the complaints come from 50 properties then do something about those 50 properties. I am for this ordinance i just dont like that it is considered no charge to register tenant right now, and after it passes they will impose a fee to register each tenant to cover the cost of hiring someone to input all the data.

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Capricorn1

Aug-09-13 2:14 PM

This ordinance has been passed in other cities. I think the ordinance Campana modeled his around was the one from Berwick. I'm curious to know the effects of these ordinances in Berwick and other cities in relation to crime. Does this new requirement actually have an effect on crime prevention/interdiction? I've read a lot about the ordinance itself, but I haven't seen any data that proves such an ordinance actually brings positive results.

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rick424

Aug-09-13 1:43 PM

I am puzzled, If the people renting to others are constantly complaining then why be a landlord? I am sure the big time guys are making the big time bucks so stop complaining.

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wwhickok

Aug-09-13 12:04 PM

pine, you're 100% correct and frankly I'm getting sick of these conversations continually reverting back to race. I don't give a crap what color of skin someone has, if they commit a crime they belong in jail.

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wwhickok

Aug-09-13 12:03 PM

"All property owners (whether renting or living on the property) carry the brunt of taxes for the city not the renters. "

That is a load of crap. It's not the first time I've heard it. It doesn't matter whether you're a home owner or not, we all have to pay school taxes, local taxes, federal taxes, state taxes, all of our taxes are effected by the projects the city does, etc. THE ONLY difference is that of which you pay for both your income from rentals and property taxes.

That sounds more like an attempt to make what's "best for homeowners/landlords" more important and what's "best for renters" irrelevant.

To me, there needs to be a middle ground, but I don't know what that middle ground is, I don't know what the solution is, or if there is one. But stop trying to base your logic on false statements because Local2WMPT that's a FLAT OUT LIE!

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wwhickok

Aug-09-13 11:58 AM

Why not create some sort of 'data base' accessible by the public, both Landlords and Tenants alike, where they can share information about 'slumlords' and 'slumnants?

The problem with this idea I'm proposing is quite obvious however, what's to stop people from going on there and saying things that aren't true out of spite?

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Zippie

Aug-09-13 10:20 AM

For everyone that lives here and not "registered"; those that are, pick up the tax tab for them.

I think if you do some research you'll find that if you live in Williamsport for one day, you owe.

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pinecr

Aug-09-13 9:18 AM

Really, do we have to turn this into a race issue...if you read the article, it has nothing to do with race just criminals renting in the city. If that turns out to be more blacks then whites, then so be it, but this is not a racial issue.

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LaughIn

Aug-09-13 9:12 AM

Timothy Miller proved a point? His data is lacking a time frame and overall calls during that duration.

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USABorn

Aug-09-13 9:12 AM

Local2WMPT - 8:43 AM

"All property owners (whether renting or living on the property) carry the brunt of taxes for the city not the renters."

Aside from property taxes which renters pay through their rents, what is the BRUNT of the taxes landloards are paying?

Local is loco if he actually believes his comment!

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fromtheport

Aug-09-13 8:26 AM

Timothy Miller said he believes most crimes are committed in rental properties and set out to prove that point by surveying 50 rentals. Of those, he said, there were 370 calls for police service.

* I took a survey of 50 black people and they commited crimes so lets get rid of blacks, sounds discriminatory doesnt it. Doesnt sound like thats the answer.

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MrShaman

Aug-09-13 6:28 AM

"I'm not calling them slumlords," Campana said. "Most of the landlords, such as Lyon and Albarano, are professional, but there are some who are negligent. That's why I am bringing this ordinance forward."

But Albarano said the ordinance would be a blanket covering landlords citywide without distinction between good and bad.

"If there are problem properties and dumps, fine, but don't use the excuse of crime and throw it at all landlords," Albarano said. "I'm tired of the mayor going after all landlords."

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When a landlord tries to create an argument...unnecessarily...something doesn't "smell" right.

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