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Wrong priorities

August 10, 2013

Today a politician does not do what is right for the citizens but on what their respective party dictates. It seems that we are no longer a country, “For the people by the people....

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MrShaman

Aug-10-13 6:06 AM

"Today a politician does not do what is right for the citizens but on what their respective party dictates.

It seems that we are no longer a country, "For the people by the people."

The donors to each political party believe they are one-hundred percent right, no matter what. This being the case, politicians will do as "Told" by a party and its chairperson." - Ida Temple

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Don't forget about the financial-influence (more-commonly-referred-to as "freedom of speech"), compliments o' the "job-creators"!!!!

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See:

Koch Industries - SourceWatch

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Capricorn1

Aug-10-13 7:02 AM

"Don't forget about the financial-influence (more-commonly-referred-to as "freedom of speech"), compliments o' the "job-creators"!!!!" -Shaman

And those same "job creators" gave 1.1 billion to Obama to help win his 2nd term.

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enigma

Aug-10-13 7:08 AM

Sham, You are exactly who Ida is talking about. You blindly follow your party no matter what. Even the campaign finance thing is just a position that Democrats have taken for appearances, even though they gladly take huge donations from special interests. If people really paid attention and did their homework, it wouldn't matter how much money anyone put into politics. But sadly people like Sham don't do their own homework, they just copy off of liberal bloggers and MSNBC without any thought or research.

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DavidBross

Aug-10-13 7:36 AM

"Today a politician does not do what is right for the citizens but on what their respective party dictates. It seems that we are no longer a country, "For the people by the people."" These words can be applied to any time in our country's history. The idea that now is uniquely different from the past may soothe the ego, but doesn't help much in dealing with the issues we face.

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enigma

Aug-10-13 8:28 AM

David, That is just not true. While there has always been contention in politics, it has been between individuals and there beliefs about what was best for the country and not strictly between parties. This country is being run by a few individuals who set the direction more than at any time in our past. The parties have figured out how to use our money to get us to elect people who have blind allegiance to the party and have no core beliefs of their own. Any rogue politician the people might elect finds himself on the receiving end of harassment and coercion from party leaders until he falls in line. This was not always the case, and only an electorate united in the desire for freedom can set it right. Sadly, it doesn't appear that we have that.

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Capricorn1

Aug-10-13 8:40 AM

Enigma I completely agree and that's why I continue to say that it might be time to start talking about term limits for our congressional leaders. I understand that the vote of the people dictates term limits and that everyone feels it's not their leaders that are the problem, but until we get these career politicians out of office, the freshman coming into politics will never have a say in what direction this country should be going. The senior politicians are the ones corrupting their junior peers and that was evident once the tea party candidates got in office. We are doing a lousy job weeding out those who tow the party line and do nothing but create gridlock, on both sides of the aisle.

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MrShaman

Aug-10-13 8:56 AM

Sham, You are exactly who Ida is talking about. You blindly follow your party no matter what." - enigma

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I don't notice Ida...or, any OTHER T-Bagger...starting a new Party.

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MrShaman

Aug-10-13 8:59 AM

"And those same "job creators" gave 1.1 billion to Obama to help win his 2nd term." - Capricorn1

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Show me.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-10-13 9:01 AM

Ida, as a whole, I believe the elected officials do represent the cross-section of the US. We have become more lazy and want more for less effort. The elected officials have provided that through endless welfare, food stamps, and cell phones. They vote themselves bountiful retirement and medical plans.

We have become covetous, are driven by materialism, and want more to be like or exceed our neighbor. The elected officials pass laws to pay cash for clunkers and require lending institutions to make more risky loans. Later when the loans can not be paid, they forgive the loans, go and bail out the lending institutions.

We have become more likely to steal. The elected official provide that by passing legislation to funnel business and contracts to their friends and in turn receive campaign contributions. They allow illegal immigrants in to work for their friends at reduced wages and pay cash without it being taxed.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-10-13 9:02 AM

Cont>>>

We want more unfettered s e x without any consequences or long-term commitments so elected officials pass laws making divorce easier, legalize killing babies in the womb, or make it easy for young girls to get the morning-after-pill without parental consent. Trafficking and slavery of young women increases and no one seems to care. Elected officials have no shame when caught sexting or carousing in the office.

People pursue enjoyment so officials allow movies to come up with rating systems so "adults" can enjoy almost anything. Marijuana is legalized. Cities tax transportation and hotels so that nice stadiums are built to house their winning team and citizens attend in luxury.

Yes, I believe the elected officials do represent the overall character and desires of this country.

Vanity, vanity, all is vanity.

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MrShaman

Aug-10-13 9:06 AM

"David, That is just not true. While there has always been contention in politics, it has been between individuals and there beliefs about what was best for the country and not strictly between parties." - enigma

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'Tis TRUE...all o' those "individual" Class O' 2010 T-Baggers (and, their Gridlock-tactics)...vs. everyone-else.

Everyone UNDERSTANDS the inexperience o' House-members...due to their rookie-status...but, what satisfaction do those T-Baggers get, by showcasing their IGNORANCE, on-TOP-of their inexperience??!!!

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MrShaman

Aug-10-13 9:25 AM

"The senior politicians are the ones corrupting their junior peers and that was evident once the tea party candidates got in office. We are doing a lousy job weeding out those who tow the party line and do nothing but create gridlock, on both sides of the aisle." - Capricorn1

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Yeah...THAT makes no sense.

It's (EXACTLY) the T-Baggers who are CREATING all the Gridlock. Their "creative"-abilities are aiding in their "efforts" to do absolutely NOTHING! Granted, they got the "overbearing-chore" of collecting a significant-CHECK, in the mean-time...but, my guess is...that was their plan, all-along. It's LOOKIN' like...the T-Baggers have been HU$TLED, again...by opportunists in T-Bagger "clothing"...much like The DICK; Armey did; ANOTHER "front" in Republicans' Civil War.

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CMReeder

Aug-10-13 9:53 AM

Where do you people like Ida come up with their bs? What is wrong with this country is people like Ida and her ignorance.

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enigma

Aug-10-13 10:04 AM

Sham,"what satisfaction do those T-Baggers get, by showcasing their IGNORANCE"

Why don't you tell us? You are an expert on showcasing ignorance, doing it every day right here on these forums. Oh wait, what you're even better at is showcasing blind hatred for anyone who has the audacity to disagree with the Democrat Party stance on any issue. I would say your stance on the issues, but you don't have any stance that is not taken straight from the Democrat Party. Any small minded person can denigrate those they disagree with. Why don't you try to support your position with reason and stop asking us to look at the same stupid left wing (Communist)blogs you're reading.

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gavinf56

Aug-10-13 10:06 AM

Why should I expect Nancy Pelosi or Steny Hoyer to represent me? Neither are my Representative, and I am quite sure they are properly representing the views of their constituents.

The deep divide you all bemoan in our elected officials properly mirrors the deep divide within our countries populace.

Like it or not, the country is working exactly like it was designed to, aside from the fact that the ideological extremes of BOTH parties refusal to compromise.

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Capricorn1

Aug-10-13 10:07 AM

"Where do you people like Ida come up with their bs?"- Reeder

Could you possibly provide details of your objections and maybe include a fact or two to support those objections. Thank you.

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enigma

Aug-10-13 10:12 AM

Chuck,"Where do you people like Ida come up with their bs? What is wrong with this country is people like Ida and her ignorance."

Just replace Ida with Chuck and Sham. This kind of insult is all they ever have to contribute to the discussion. At least Ida has real ideas. Whether you agree or not, she at least offers something of substance. Chuck and Sham offer nothing but hate. Now which one is more likely to cause gridlock, ideas or hate? With ideas, there is room for compromise, with hate there is not.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-10-13 10:13 AM

Capricorn1, I was thinking the same.

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CMReeder, maybe you could attack/rebut the content of the letter instead of the person.

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DavidBross

Aug-10-13 10:15 AM

Oh, Enigma, but I think it is true. During our country's formation, there were special interests that were more than willing to scrap the idea of a United States. Those interests were Agriculture, Industry and Banking. It took the efforts of a small group of exceptional people to avoid fragmentation. But, even then, it required giving a stamp of approval on bringing people here against their will and treating them as property. Also, in the phrase, "Of the people, by the people and for the people", "people" originally only included white males of means. We have nothing on prior generations when it comes to selfishness, narrow-mindedness, blind party loyalty, and the like.

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Ritty77

Aug-10-13 10:18 AM

Good letter, Ida. Keep doing what you're doing for our country.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-10-13 10:22 AM

In PA the GOP hold majorities in both House and Senate. The Governor is a Republican. Conservatives hold a majority of the PA Supreme Court.

In Washington, the GOP holds a huge majority in the House of Representatives and conservatives a majority in the Supreme Court.

But the doom and gloom letters never end. We're told no one represents the people. All the politicians are crooks they tell us. Vote them all out they tell us.

I say enough already! I was raised to believed that serving in government was as honorable aspiration.

Stop vilifying it.

Stop the whining.

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mikekerstetter

Aug-10-13 10:39 AM

It's my perception that the last 10 years or so has been the worst in out history as far as party politics. No longer do we have people leading that will cross party lines and compromise to move us forward.

It's a shame when Obama signed the student loan bill that he said 'it feels good to finally sign a bill'.

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Ritty77

Aug-10-13 10:49 AM

Stop the whining? You mean like streaming video of people screaming at passing vehicles because they took down a couple basketball nets? Isn't that whining?

Progressives come from both parties. You belong to the biggest party of whiners ever, Jerry. You progressives see injustice and inequality everywhere (or just make it up) and empower government to take liberty and money from others and future generations to temporarily pacify your cries for "hope and change."

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enigma

Aug-10-13 10:52 AM

David,"We have nothing on prior generations when it comes to selfishness, narrow-mindedness, blind party loyalty, and the like."

No David, you are wrong. The founders did as you say have many disagreements, but these were disagreements on what they really believed. What we have now is people who subjugate personal belief to party platform. There is no longer principle involved. Politics has become a team sport where the coach calls the plays and the players do their part. Our founders would never have seen politics as a game where one side wins and the other loses. They had different ideas, but they were their own ideas. The parties came from the ideas, not the ideas coming from the party. Now if you differ from any idea your party holds, they try to silence you. Things are very different today.

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cheyenne

Aug-10-13 11:03 AM

"In Washington, the GOP holds a huge majority in the House of Representatives"- Jerry.

234(54%) vs. 201(46%) isn't much of a "huge majority" in my opinion, Jerry. But, I understand some degree of dramatic exaggeration was helpful in attempting to validate your point.

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