Sign In | Create an Account | Welcome, . My Account | Logout | Subscribe | Submit News | Newspaper contacts | All Access E-Edition | Home RSS

The fuss

August 11, 2013

On July 18, the Sun-Gazette published an editorial supporting the Pennsylvania voter ID law, and questioning the legal challenge to it....

« Back to Article

sort: oldest | newest




Aug-12-13 6:18 AM

Vince, I don't think Rick cares if it's legal or not.

6 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-12-13 6:04 AM

I guess with that I could vote as many times as I like, legally.

Legally? Let's count the ways you are wrong. You broke the law getting a fake ID on line. You broke the law using that fake ID for various government services. And it's illegal to vote more than once.

Clear that up any, Rick?

7 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 10:04 AM

I can get a fake IDs on line. I can use an ID for "Social Security, Medicaid or Medicare. They need an ID to cash a check or to open a bank account. You need an ID to buy cigarettes or alcohol." I guess with that I could vote as many times as I like, legally. I was on the fence with voter ID until the republicans made that comment.

3 Agrees | 10 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 9:57 AM

I ordered an item from Walmart's site to store service. I was asked for photo ID to pick up the item.

mikekerstetter hit the nail on the head: one needs a photo ID for many things, including government services. Why is this such a big deal?

6 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 8:32 AM

Another good letter. The scamming right however will not think so.

5 Agrees | 15 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 8:21 AM

"An article in "Forbes" explains the fuss. The article noted that supporters of the law estimated the cost of implementing it to be about $5 million, while the Pennsylvania Budget and Policy Center estimated the cost to be $11 million. These figures do not include the cost of the litigation needed to sustain the law or the cost to registered voters who must spend time and money to get to locations where free voter IDs can be obtained."

First off the number of people that don't have a valid ID as cited by liberal resources is extremely skewed. They also include those that have a photo ID or driver's license but they are expired or not valid for one reason or another. This means that those people do have the means and necessary documentation to renew their ID, they just choose not to do so.

9 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 7:37 AM

If only the left was as concerned about wasted government spending on welfare and food stamps and thousands of other bloated government entitlements as they claim to be on the cost of this law.

14 Agrees | 6 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 7:02 AM

"I'm not buying your argument."

Neither did SCOTUS.

See: Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181 (2008)

11 Agrees | 0 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 6:57 AM

Agreed Mike. There is no legitimate argument for not showing positive ID to vote.

14 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »


Aug-11-13 6:44 AM

Richard Morris-"Let's start by noting that in the trial the State stipulated there "have been no investigations or prosecutions of in-person voter fraud in Pennsylvania"

So that means it doesn't happen? How would you know when no one is checking?

I have to show an ID and submit to checks to exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to bare arms and buy a gun. But you, and others, are whining about having to show an ID to vote, which is not a Constitutionally Guaranteed right right. All these poor, disenfranchised folks have no problem showing an ID to get assistance, Social Security, Medicaid or Medicare. They need an ID to cash a check or to open a bank account. You need an ID to buy cigarettes or alcohol. But it's a burden to show an ID at the polling place to prove you are who you say you are? Plus you can get an ID for free.

I'm not buying your argument.

14 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Showing 10 of 10 comments

Post a Comment

You must first login before you can comment.

*Your email address:
Remember my email address.


I am looking for:
News, Blogs & Events Web