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Another anti-liquor privatization attacks proves inaccurate

August 13, 2013

One of the many bogus arguments made this past spring against privatization of the Pennsylvania liquor store system was that privatizing liquor stores would kill people....

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JohnRz

Aug-15-13 9:52 PM

Did this newspaper describe the Commonwealth Foundation as "non-partisan? Really? A simple Google search will reveal otherwise. Kinda makes you wonder about the rest of the article. The non-partisans never mention that Washington had 60 less state trooper on the road and that local law enforcement faced similar cutbacks. Did you here Sean Hannitty is getting canned by Fox? Too willing to play along with hard to prove right wing conspiracy theories. Ditto for this paper.

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WillAcker

Aug-14-13 3:10 PM

Washington State reports DUI and DUI crashes down 9% since privatization. I would think, although it isn't reported, that deaths decreased too.

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MrShaman

Aug-14-13 6:19 AM

Capricorn 1: If Sham stays true to form, you will not hear from him again on this post as when his opinion is challenged with the right facts or questions, he tends to disappear. If I now get his wrath, so be it, but a quick review of many of the recent comment sections will bear this out as fact." - mahs81

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Never heard o' you.

NEXT?!!

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MrShaman

Aug-14-13 6:17 AM

"Head injuries from motorcycle crashes rose after the repeal of motorcycle helmet laws in Pennsylvania, a study shows.

The study's researchers found a 66% increase in motorcycle-related head injury deaths and a 78% increase in head injury hospitalizations from motorcycle crashes since the repeal of Pennsylvania’s motorcycle helmet law in 2003." WebMD

Just thought I would throw that out there..." - Capricorn1

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Unfortunately, you "forgot" to mention the INCREASED number of INEXPERIENCED-riders, (now) on-the-road.

Nice try; (VERY) old sales-pitch.

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MrShaman

Aug-14-13 6:12 AM

"So you are saying that wearing a helmet doesn't save lives? I think you better do a little more research, or maybe talk to someone that has a lifetime head/brain injury because they chose not to wear a helmet. I have. I'll go with the facts and my son rides a Harley and I insist that he wears a helmet." - Capricorn1

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I've ridden, since '65. EXPERIENCE saves a LOT more lives than any helmet could accomplish. If you son's gotten a Harley...'cause it's the "hip/trendy thing-to-do"...I'm FULLY in-favor of him wearing a helmet...if that's HIS decision.

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mahs81

Aug-13-13 10:28 AM

Capricorn 1: If Sham stays true to form, you will not hear from him again on this post as when his opinion is challenged with the right facts or questions, he tends to disappear. If I now get his wrath, so be it, but a quick review of many of the recent comment sections will bear this out as fact.

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Numerous recent comment post threads on sungazette**** August 1 - 12, 2012

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Capricorn1

Aug-13-13 9:31 AM

"Head injuries from motorcycle crashes rose after the repeal of motorcycle helmet laws in Pennsylvania, a study shows.

The study's researchers found a 66% increase in motorcycle-related head injury deaths and a 78% increase in head injury hospitalizations from motorcycle crashes since the repeal of Pennsylvania’s motorcycle helmet law in 2003." WebMD

Just thought I would throw that out there, but this has nothing to do with the editorial. There are no facts to support the stance that privatization of liquor stores would increase traffic fatalities.

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Capricorn1

Aug-13-13 9:25 AM

So you are saying that wearing a helmet doesn't save lives? I think you better do a little more research, or maybe talk to someone that has a lifetime head/brain injury because they chose not to wear a helmet. I have. I'll go with the facts and my son rides a Harley and I insist that he wears a helmet.

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MrShaman

Aug-13-13 8:12 AM

"Shaman I get the gist of what you're saying, but personally I wouldn't have referenced helmet laws or vehicle inspections. Studies have shown, that just like seat beats, helmets do save lives. And I have been to states where there isn't a vehicle inspection requirement and it is very evident that it's not." - Capricorn1

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Unlike your travels...I LIVED in Colorado, in '76, when (BOTH) the helmet-law & the auto-inspection law were deep-sixed.

When I left that State, in '96, the various "horror-stories" STILL hadn't materialized.

What's "very evident", to you, is nothing-more than the rhetoric you prefer to believe; more "absolutes" that have nothing-to-do any available-facts.

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Capricorn1

Aug-13-13 7:06 AM

Shaman I get the gist of what you're saying, but personally I wouldn't have referenced helmet laws or vehicle inspections. Studies have shown, that just like seat beats, helmets do save lives. And I have been to states where there isn't a vehicle inspection requirement and it is very evident that it's not. I would rather pay the money each year and know that all the safety devices on my vehicle and the other vehicles on the road are in order. But as far as privatization of liquor stores causing more drinking related accidents, show me the facts to support it. There are none.

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MrShaman

Aug-13-13 5:43 AM

"One of the many bogus arguments made this past spring against privatization of the Pennsylvania liquor store system was that privatizing liquor stores would kill people.

The party line of opponents to liquor privatization was that making sales available in that manner would lead to more drunken driving collisions, and logically, more drunken driving deaths."

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Such arguments have been made (as well)...for decades...regarding eliminating helmet-laws, eliminating auto-inspection laws, and (more-recently) legalizing marijuana.

Funny thing. Those "moralists" are nowhere (to be found), after-the-fact...when their psychic-predictions fail to pan-out.

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USABorn

Aug-13-13 2:05 AM

Just the union lying, AS USUAL, in order to keep their members!

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