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Dividing the U.S.

August 21, 2013

Comrade Obama Obama wants to divide the U.S., as in divide and conquer. He is past socialism and is pushing us to Communism. He talks “phony” scandals and is using the race card to divide the country....

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 4:43 PM

garder54, I also would like that people do not feel like this letter writer, however some do. I have a very close relative that you cannot have a descent conversation with. His job has him on the road a lot, & ALL you can get out of him is AM radio talking points. When confronted with those talking points being dismantled, he goes into an adult version of putting his hands over his ears & saying "I can't hear you"--Seriously! Scott

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garder54

Aug-23-13 3:59 PM

I feel like the person who wrote this letter is just trolling to get a rise out of you all. No one really thinks like this, do they?

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 10:42 AM

pinecr, Your point?

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 10:35 AM

I am not spinning anything. The money is still being invested, albeit overseas.-Gavin Just one more thing. I sincerely do try to address all points directed at me, sometimes it is uncomfortable, sometimes I simply do not know. That being said, I noticed that you did not address money being sheltered from U.S. taxation.

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 10:31 AM

Gavin, your 6:54 pm post we find agreement on. I was applying a touch of satire. I get the distinct impression you are sharper than to believe that it is just one thing that needs adjusting. I for one just get tired of constantly hearing from conservatives that it is the least among us that are to blame for all of our troubles. But this just seems to be beating a dead horse it would seem.

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 10:23 AM

Gavin, you called them "investments', I was simply clarifying my point.

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pinecr

Aug-23-13 9:08 AM

It is mostly uneducated or "anything goes" young people that voted for the President...certainly anyone with some intelligence would have looked at what happened the previous 4 years and would say "hey we can't stand another 4 years of that" but no, vote him into office again so he can take million dollar vacations at the taxpayers expense. He is here in PA making a speech about how long it took him to pay off his college loans and that he wants to get the cost of education under control...yeh, right, we are suppose to feel sorry for him having students loans...now who believes first of all that he had student loans...he probably got a free ride like most blacks do in this country as well as foreigners. It is the white kids that end of with the student loans and I would guess that Pres. Obama could care less about them. He is a joke for a President!

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CMReeder

Aug-23-13 12:09 AM

You are correct Bobbie the US does in fact now have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. That is satutorily. The effective corporate tax paid by US corporations is at an all time low. The US is collecting less in taxes as a % of the economy save Iceland. It has been 45 years since a corporation has paid the full corporate tax rate and 26 corporations did not pay any tax at all and have not in 4 years.

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gavinf56

Aug-22-13 6:57 PM

"Tax shelters. No matter how you try to spin it, it is taxes being sheltered from U.S. taxes & not being invested in the American economy." - Scott36

I am not spinning anything. The money is still being invested, albeit overseas.

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gavinf56

Aug-22-13 6:54 PM

Sorry Scott, I don't think it is just snap that is breaking this country. It is a combination of factors of not enough revenue along with to much spending. It will take a comprehensive approach, not one or the other.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 6:52 PM

Gavin, Tax shelters. No matter how you try to spin it, it is taxes being sheltered from U.S. taxes & not being invested in the American economy. But hey I know, it's SNAP that breaking America.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 6:46 PM

Capricorn, I noticed you still did not address my main point. The way the system is currently set up in such a way so not to help our economy. Yea well. Have a nice night yourself. Scott

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Capricorn1

Aug-22-13 6:36 PM

Scott, if I had that kind of money, to be honest I wouldn't invest it either at this time. The economy is too volatile no matter what numbers are being reported and interest rates are going to start climbing in the near future. Do a little surfing on some financial web sites and see what some notable economist are saying regarding the future of this economy. Like I said before, if I was a betting man I would place my money on another crippling recession that will be worse than the last one in the next few years... have a good nite.

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gavinf56

Aug-22-13 6:27 PM

"That money just sitting there is doing nothing." - Scott36

That is not true, it is just not being invested in this country.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 5:28 PM

Capricorn, One more point. About me "accusing?" you of hating the poor, it just seemed to me that all of your examples targeted the poor.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 5:25 PM

Capricorn, If I did not make myself clear, then it is my error. 20-50k IMO, should be paying taxes of some sort(federal). But I do not know enough about the tax laws for all the different circumstances. E.g., How many dependents? Is it a small business that is eligible for lots of deductions? The list can go on & on. As far as multinational corps. & The mega-super wealthy hiding their money in off shore tax shelters(I have heard estimates from BOTH sides of about 2 trillion), That money just sitting there is doing nothing. It just seems to me that it could be put into the economy creating more jobs, thus creating more spending, thus business sells more. I know about the argument "It's their money" & I do not dispute that. What I do dispute is the system being set up where it is best for them to just shelter it rather than it being used to keep America healthier.

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Capricorn1

Aug-22-13 4:50 PM

Scott, to be honest I wasn't quite sure what you were trying to say. You just kept saying I was after the poor for their taxes. LoL That's why if you read my comment I said "But it is your intention "I guess" that none of these people should be paying federal taxes"

No worries, I still feel the 20 to 50k tax brackets should be contributing something, but judging by reports, half of them aren't.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 3:58 PM

Gavin, I absolutely am not trying in any way to be condescending. I will readily admit that if I feel confident & strongly about something I can be quite bold in my presentation. I rarely hold bad feelings toward people, even if they get intentionally, personally insulting. Weather I am correct in my interpretation or not could be up to debate, but I see it as a sign of desperation, a weakness if you will. But I tend to not look down on others, but I do try to understand their view. I also like the back and forth with you(Cap.)too. Scott

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gavinf56

Aug-22-13 3:41 PM

...which so far has been clean, although there are times when I sense a little condescension. We'll see.

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gavinf56

Aug-22-13 3:39 PM

Nay, it wasn't worth it yet. I enjoy the back and forth with you.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 3:21 PM

I could make a comment about listening, but I will pass for right now.-Gavin PLEASE, if it is about me, man-up and make that comment. I have no problem articulating my beliefs.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 3:13 PM

Bobbie2----YA GOT ME!!!! But then again maybe I'm Ed Schultz, or Rachel Maddow, or Oberman.............Or a goblin or a shape shifter or a???????

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 3:09 PM

Capricorn1, Since you seem to want to play a game of going back to former posts,(not that this is in any way unfair/out of bounds)& getting specific,(I was under the impression that our discussion had progressed in an adult fashion) please tell me which post that lead you to believe that I feel that people earning between 20-50K should not be paying taxes. I am not one to try to pin someone down to a specific word/term in order to deflect/make someone back peddle in order to try to be half right. That being said, notice I only asked you to direct me to the post that "lead you" to believe... fair enough? I would sincerely like to continue our discussion with Gavin along for the ride too!! Scott

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 2:55 PM

Gavin, ya got me!

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gavinf56

Aug-22-13 1:38 PM

Hmmmm, and Capricorn did state federal taxes early this morning.

I could make a comment about listening, but I will pass for right now.

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