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Pleasure

August 21, 2013

What a pleasure it was to open a recent Sun-Gazette letters to the Editor’s section. There were three letters, all short and to the point. Not the long winded, two rows of nonsense....

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sideliner

Aug-21-13 7:24 PM

enigma, you explained my weeding out process perfectly...

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enigma

Aug-21-13 7:18 PM

sideline, If you are open-minded, why do you 'weed out' the far left and far right. That is the very definition of a closed mind. What if one of them is right and you ignore them because they are 'extreme'. Then you can never be right. I listen to those on the far left and right and consider what they say just as I do anyone else. I apply reason and perspective and determine what corresponds best to reality. As you have probably noticed, I have thus far rejected the far left, near left and any other left as being unworkable for a free society. Some of the concepts espoused by some on the right are just as bad. I also cannot say that all ideas that liberals have are bad, just their general philosophy of government. I determine all these on an issue by issue basis. It also helps to read the Constitution. No one who has could possibly believe that our current government is Constitutional.

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sideliner

Aug-21-13 6:29 PM

Cap, I'd like to think I have an open mind and try to weed out the Hard Left as much as I do the Hard Right. Maybe I'm not as open minded as I think I am.

I think we are in a dangerous spot when rather than negotiate and compromise, rather than meet somewhere closer to the middle where most of us live, there are those that would rather impeach the President, shut down the gov't, default on our loans, further tank our own as well as the world's economy just to "stand up and win the argument." (Cruz) Is being "right" that important? Is "winning" that essential? And what is the prize after all the damage?

I don't hear this extreme threatening rhetoric from the anyone anywhere but those FEW at the far right end of the Republican Party that the rest of the Party allows to speak for them.

I don't believe the majority of Repubs think and act like those vocal "entertainers" using the political process as a stage for their antics.

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enigma

Aug-21-13 6:27 PM

sideliner, If you want what I want, which is all of those things you said, you are going about it all wrong. Freedom and big government are incompatible. Freedom and government handouts are incompatible. Everything our government is doing is incompatible with freedom. The whole concept of freedom is freedom from government intrusion in our lives. More government means less freedom. That is axiomatic. Even those things that government does 'for you' take away freedom. I am not advocating no government, that would be chaos, but just enough to maintain a civil society. I stand for maximum freedom, which means minimum government. If freedom and opportunity are what you want for your kids and grandkids, then you want small government.

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sideliner

Aug-21-13 5:45 PM

What good does it do these US citizens that are out to "destroy" the country, to actually succeed in doing so? Where is the payoff for people like me who you say are part of the problem? What do I get out of destroying my very own country? Where do I go from here once I've pulled the trigger?

I want what you want, enigma. I want "land of the free and home of the brave." I want a place where my grandchildren and great grandchildren can live productive lives within a true melting pot of those with similar goals.

I believe the US Constitution is strong enough to withstand the assault of hateful mon-productive rhetoric that may in fact be followed equally hateful, hurtful, and divisive actions by the Hard Right that have totally hijacked the Republican Party.

The Party has become so extreme that many top Repubs have jumped ship and changed their affiliation to Independent.

Talk about "destruction." Your party is on implode mode and even as a Democrat,

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Capricorn1

Aug-21-13 5:39 PM

Sideliner, What is the difference in threatening a government shutdown if individual mandates aren't extended a year, or threatening a government shutdown if the president isn't given more money to spend?

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Capricorn1

Aug-21-13 5:36 PM

Sideliner, it's sounding like you choose only to hear the rhetoric from one side of the aisle.

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enigma

Aug-21-13 5:21 PM

sideliner, Are you saying you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction? Where have I heard that before? Maybe in a song from 1965. The simple fact is that there are fewer people than ever before who even want the country to work. The U.S.A. can survive if enough people will wake up now and work hard enough to save it. If not we may still call whatever is here the U.S.A. but it will not be what it has always been. The plain truth is that there are many who don't want it to be. Yes the U.S.A. as founded is being systematically destroyed and the old cliché fits here better than anytime I've ever heard it. "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." You my friend are part of the problem. I invite you to join the solution (at this point we don't need a revolution, just a solution).

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sideliner

Aug-21-13 5:09 PM

Has anybody heard and listened to the rhetoric coming from Cruz? This "Do not blink" thing is Cuban missile crisis language and frankly, quite crazy and very frightening. Who IS this guy??

Rre Republicans really going to let this guy highjack the party?

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Capricorn1

Aug-21-13 4:53 PM

Sideliner, one must ask why he saw to giving big business a reprieve regarding ACA mandates, but refuses to budge on individual mandates that will effect families. Even 22 democrats in the House voted to extend the individual mandates a year. And let's not forget, the President and democrats also are threatening a government shutdown Oct 1st if they aren't allowed to increase government spending. Both sides of the aisle are acting like a bunch of kids in a schoolyard.

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sideliner

Aug-21-13 3:33 PM

Francine, I am in the same "knowledge boat" in that I probably forgot more than I will ever know...

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sideliner

Aug-21-13 3:30 PM

Capricorn, I hope you are wrong about a coming recession.

And speaking of betting all your cards, how about Cruz calling for a "don't blink" mentality to force a government shutdown in order to defund a current law of the land? Now that is some serious, no-win betting. Why would anybody in their right mind shut the government down in a battle that cannot be won? Even if there is a government shutdown, ACA will be funded. Period.

So Cruz and his backers are willing to risk not only our economy, but the stability of the world economy on in un-winnable battle? That is insanity at its best.

This obsession by the hard right to get of Obamacare is doing nobody any good. Nothing else is getting done while precious time and resources are used to kick a dead horse.

I agree that gov't spending is out of control and not sustainable but the current tactics are doing nothing to contribute to a solution.

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Capricorn1

Aug-21-13 2:48 PM

Sideliner, this change is starting to get pretty expensive and resulting in a government that's bursting at the seams. Eventually someone has to pay the bill. No business in America could survive working under no budget restrictions and continuing to borrow. Nor will this government. Maybe I'm a pessimist but I think we have another recession coming that will make the last one look like a walk in the park. Be careful of the change you're betting all your cards on.

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sideliner

Aug-21-13 1:49 PM

enigma, you say: "put the country on the road to destruction."

Do you actually believe that we are headed for "destruction?" That which we have built with blood, sweat, tears, and sheer determination over the last couple of centuries can and is being destructed as we type? You have such little faith in the sheer determination that built us.

Rather than destruction, I see a state flux. We are rethinking, reevaluating, and deciding who we are in a changing world and changing makeup of our nation. We are in the process of change rather than destruction or dissolution. And with that change I do see hope rather than despair.

I guess it's all on how you look at it. Your view seems like that of a defeatist who is just about to throw in the towel. I say "no" to that view and embrace the opportunity for growth. And like it or not, pain is the touchstone of all growth...

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JohnZook

Aug-21-13 1:22 PM

But there's just so much to talk about; like family , those cute new Lime Green shoes from the mall, and that shoo fly pie recipe.......................

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wwhickok

Aug-21-13 11:13 AM

Short and to the point? You mean like this letter? Well, it was short, but really had no point in being printed.

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USABorn

Aug-21-13 10:22 AM

MrShaman - 6:36 AM

"No doubt. Details...and, actual-facts...always have a tendency to distract people from the next headline. You never catch FAUX Noise making such amateurish-mistakes!!"

Amateurish mistakes are left to the members of the Axis of Ignorance, i.e., PMSNBC, and to Sham, the King of drivel.

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CMReeder

Aug-21-13 10:04 AM

Capricorn1 if you don't now how to use it what good is it except for show.

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MikeR7

Aug-21-13 9:31 AM

Is South Williamsport the home of the world's foremost authorities on everything, or perhaps something in the water supply I should be concerned about as a resident?

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Capricorn1

Aug-21-13 9:22 AM

It is not the lenght of letter that matters it is the content. -Reeder

Reeder, contrary to what everyone has told you, size matters. :-)

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CMReeder

Aug-21-13 9:19 AM

In this case Francine is right. It is not the lenght of letter that matters it is the content.

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leaningright

Aug-21-13 8:58 AM

Ask Francine how to write, she knows everything.

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MrShaman

Aug-21-13 8:23 AM

"Personally, I don't care what you think, unless you can explain why you think it." - enigma

*

BIG 10-4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CMReeder

Aug-21-13 8:09 AM

LOL

Too Funny!

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enigma

Aug-21-13 7:38 AM

I find most of the short letters to be as silly as this one. In these short letters a person tells us what they think, but not why. Personally, I don't care what you think, unless you can explain why you think it. Donna is the kind of person who reads only the first few paragraphs of a story and thinks she knows what the news is. Exactly the kind of shallow person who has put the country on the road to destruction.

P.S. Donna, When people really knew how to write letters, they were very long indeed.

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