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Fluoride or die?

August 22, 2013

The story in the August 15 edition, titled, “Dentists: Keep Fluoride in Municipal Water Supplies” was incredible....

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Premier

Aug-22-13 4:50 AM

So is this what's happening with all these ADHD people? When we were young our parents got our "attention" with a belt or a boot to the rear end. Now they just dope them up.

Which one is the better solution?

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Capricorn1

Aug-22-13 5:40 AM

Bottled water that comes from tap water will most likely contain fluoride because most tap water is fluoridated. Dasani and Aquafina, which are nothing more than purified tap water, will most likely contain fluoride. Poland Spring, FIJI Water, Perrier, and Deer Park contain fluoride, and even boast its health benefits on their websites. Evian makes no mention of fluoride on its website either way.

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Capricorn1

Aug-22-13 5:45 AM

BTW, that bottled water information came from the eHow website.

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MrShaman

Aug-22-13 5:47 AM

"So is this what's happening with all these ADHD people? When we were young our parents got our "attention" with a belt or a boot to the rear end. Now they just dope them up.

Which one is the better solution?" - Premier

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If your thought-process is an example of the many "benefits" of "a belt or a boot to the rear end"...the two choices, you suggest, DO seem quite a problem.

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MrShaman

Aug-22-13 5:56 AM

"Fluoride is known to cause reduced cognitive abilities in children (that means it makes them stupid). Why are local dentists lying to us and harming our children? Or have they just ingested too much fluoride?" - Paul Rinker

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Is this...like...some kind of effort to blame various "challenged"-individuals (within The Tea Party ranks) on a communist-plot??

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See:

Water Fluoridation Controversy [Wikipedia]

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Capricorn1

Aug-22-13 6:27 AM

Shaman you once again just have to bring the Tea Party into every conversation. You are totally obsessed with them.

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CarlHiller

Aug-22-13 6:38 AM

Methinks, Shammy has ingested way too much fluoride, because it sure seems to have diminished his cognitive abilities. Anyone who espouses the ideal of placing a toxin in the food and water supply to be ingested has never looked at the studies or promoting a lie and is ill-advised. Studies dating back to over 60 years ago point out the dangers of fluoride ingestion, there may be a benefit when topically applied, with the key being may, but the process of even topical application weakens the teeth over time. Most dentists are taught in dental school that fluoride saves teeth and it never occurs to question or actually read any of the studies. Another aside would be there are different fluorides, some which are extremely toxic, more so than others, and I have yet to see what the WWA utilizes. Sodium fluoride was used for years but today only accounts for about 10% nationwide. What water authorities use most in public drinking water are sodium silicofluoride or fluosilicic acid.

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enigma

Aug-22-13 7:14 AM

I agree. I thought that what that dentist used in the article was hyperbole at best, but more like outright lies. I believe however that the cause may be blind faith in the ADA, which is a political and not a medical organization. I looked up the ADA's position on fluoride as well as that from the CDC. Both read like a left wing blog, touting the virtue of fluoride without ever actually using any facts. It looks good on the surface, but unfortunately surface is all there is. Like Sham they ignore the part where studies have shown that there is no benefit to poisoning the water. That's why most European countries have stopped doing it. And the left says the right is anti-science.

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Arbogast

Aug-22-13 8:11 AM

2 words..."WELL WATER"!

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SteelerFan

Aug-22-13 8:22 AM

Sham: 'Is this...like...some kind of effort to blame various "challenged"-individuals (within The Tea Party ranks) on a communist-plot??'

Pure gibberish.

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CMReeder

Aug-22-13 8:33 AM

If you go to the WHO web site you will find that they say there is a benefit from adding fluoride to either one of the following; water supply, salt, milk. You add that to personal oral products with fluoride added and used. They reduce caries and improve oral health. They even have guidelines for acceptable levels of fluoride in water, salt, milk.

So the very first statement about fluoride from Mr. Rinker is a lie.

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MrShaman

Aug-22-13 8:36 AM

"Shaman you once again just have to bring the Tea Party into every conversation. You are totally obsessed with them." - Capricorn1

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Yeah...right..."them".

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MrShaman

Aug-22-13 8:41 AM

"Methinks, Shammy has ingested way too much fluoride, because it sure seems to have diminished his cognitive abilities." - CarlHiller

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No...I've NEVER (knowingly) "consumed" anything expelled by FAUX Noise, Porky Limbaugh OR the NY Post. Unlike too-many T-Baggers, I'm still in-possession of all my (original) literacy-faculties.

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MrShaman

Aug-22-13 8:45 AM

"I looked up the ADA's position on fluoride as well as that from the CDC. Both read like a left wing blog, touting the virtue of fluoride without ever actually using any facts." - enigma

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You Axis-Of-Ignorance (FAUX Noise/Porky Limbaugh/NY Post) fans are all-of-a-sudden interested in FACTS??!!!

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enigma

Aug-22-13 8:46 AM

Chuck,"So the very first statement about fluoride from Mr. Rinker is a lie."

Wrong again Chuck. He didn't say that the WHO doesn't recommend the use of fluoride. He said that their study showed no benefit from using fluoride. Those are two different things. The WHO is a liberal organization and like any liberal organization, their policies do not have to fit their data. I have to admit that I don't know why liberals want to poison the water supply, but it is one of their golden calves. Chuck, you need to learn to discern differences. What you said and what Mr. Rinker said are not incompatible, it just shows that U.N. organizations are inconsistent. Is that a surprise to anyone?

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msamerica101

Aug-22-13 8:55 AM

I don't trust dentists anyway.

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MrShaman

Aug-22-13 9:05 AM

Sham: 'Is this...like...some kind of effort to blame various "challenged"-individuals (within The Tea Party ranks) on a communist-plot??'

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"Pure gibberish." - SteelerFan

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Don't feel TOO-badly. At LEAST you were able to put two words together!

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CMReeder

Aug-22-13 9:32 AM

WHO says there is a benefit in using fluoride. So Mr. Rinker lied.

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CMReeder

Aug-22-13 9:34 AM

Second lie fluoride is not a poison.

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CMReeder

Aug-22-13 9:44 AM

The Oregon study is political not scientific has been refute by the science community. Portland has voted against fluoride in the water supply because they don't want the government regulating it.

The CDC reports that for every $1 spent on fluoridation $38 is saved in dental care.

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garder54

Aug-22-13 9:49 AM

Reading a study does not make you an expert. I think the below posters need to keep that in mind.

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Capricorn1

Aug-22-13 9:52 AM

I can't believe the use of fluoride has turned into a left right issue with Shaman using the axis of ignorance as his rebuttal. Now that's science.

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Scott36

Aug-22-13 10:29 AM

This is 2013, not 1950 correct??

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rick424

Aug-22-13 10:50 AM

I remember these same arguments coming up in the late 60s. I guess things never change.

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enigma

Aug-22-13 12:26 PM

Chuck,"Second lie fluoride is not a poison."

Really? Then why did HHS request that the EPA reduce the level in drinking water. Why does the EPA regulate the discharge of fluoride into waterways? Because they have studies that show the dangerous effects of fluoride. Even these dentists wouldn't try to tell you it wasn't poison. I can't think of a better way to completely wreck your credibility than to say that fluoride is not a poison.

Chuck,"WHO says there is a benefit in using fluoride. So Mr. Rinker lied."

No, it is WHO that lied. Their own study shows that there is no benefit, but they still claim there is. Like any good group of liberals, they conveniently ignore the data if it disagrees with their agenda.

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