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Throw him out!

August 23, 2013

What is wrong with people that an elected official with a lecherous attitude towards women who work for him is still in office? I am a Democrat and liberal but I do not understand how Mayor Filner......

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 11:15 AM

Texas, Do you even comprehend the statement being discussed????? You gave me specific examples to comment on, I shall if you wish. BUT I still say that morality is a direct result of ones teachings/beliefs. Therefore, it is relevant to that. Question does a moral have to be good? Scott P.S.- If you feel that your thoughts on morality are the as we shall say "final word", would you please convey to me where you achieved/obtained this knowledge.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 11:06 AM

Kindly explain redistribution of wealth.-Bobbie2

Upward, or downward? BTW-I have found this very typical of conservatives, when asked an uncomfortable question they deflect. SO predictable

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-24-13 10:28 PM

"Scott36 Aug-24-13 7:20 PM Agree | Disagree My very dearest Texas, So do you still feel that morality is not a relative concept? Or do you feel it is only relative to your concept??

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now you are just trying to be ridiculous. i gave you some good stuff to chew on that you can agree or disagrre with. you can even tell me why i am wrong or you are right. how do you FEEL about it? i phave arrived at another conclusion. 19/5~36IQ

Go enjoy your FEELINGS and stop wasting my time.

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Scott36

Aug-24-13 7:20 PM

My very dearest Texas, So do you still feel that morality is not a relative concept? Or do you feel it is only relative to your concept??

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-24-13 6:22 PM

I am not saving that everything that people do follow an absolute morality; many times the motivation is a "me first", sinfulness. We do after all live in a fallen world.

Also sometimes there appears to be competing moral absolutes, ie can you take the life of an individual if they are evil enough or could someone do something so abhorable that you can justify termination of their life as an acceptable punishment? Good question. Does a Hitler or Saddam Hussein deserve death?

Or should a woman be able to decide what she can do to her body vs. can the life of a baby be terminated. Two competing moral absolutes and our society continues to battle when life begins and which moral absolute takes precedents.

Even our society believes that the absolute moral principle that the weak, widows, children, etc should be taken care of. But where the democrats and republicans disagree is the approach.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-24-13 5:55 PM

Cont>>

Or another absolute moral reason is that you should obey your parents or those in authority so you agree to the assignment.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-24-13 5:54 PM

"There are societies that believe that strapping bombs on their children and having them blow up perfect strangers is just & moral. I would beg to differ with them, but the fact still remains that to them it is moral(from their disgusting way of being manipulated-IMO)."--Scott36

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My dear Scott, first of all in your example, it is not the entire society that believes in strapping bombs to their children; it is just a fringe element.

Now, may I suggest that you try and pretend that you are one of those Hamas children/adults that has agreed to strap a bomb to yourself and then detonate it in a crowd of Israelis strangers. What would motivate you to do it? Why would you accept the assignment? I propose it is because you believe deep in your heart (rightly or wrongly) that the strangers are evil and bad and thus worthy of punishment. You would be applying an absolute moral principle to the situation that it is appropriate to punish evil. Or another absolute moral

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Scott36

Aug-24-13 11:49 AM

Your information or opinions could be right or wrong but regardless of that, you think there is an objective standard of perfection that each of these people should meet.-ToTAXASfromPA

My dearest Texan, I give my opinions, and will defend them. The only "standard of perfection" I expect of others is to state the reason they agree/disagree with my statement/opinion with something more intelligent, or deeper if you will than "you are wrong because you are liberal".

BTW- Earlier in your post that "some similar atrocity." you seemed not to be able to get yourself to type in is "torture" IF you wish, on this topic I will argue my morals.

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Scott36

Aug-24-13 11:33 AM

ToTEXASfromPA- Longwinded response to mostly my opinions. Are morals a relative concept? Yes. Ones morals are relative to ones teachings or beliefs. e.g.-There are some on this planet that think it is just and moral to strap a bomb to their child in order to blow up complete strangers.(My morals would most certainly differ) It is relative to their beliefs. For someone to believe that "their" morals should apply to everybody, & are beyond question, is IMO, is Quite condescending, and self-serving. This is my "opinion" on a subject, & do not see how it can be applied to my "moral" beliefs--BUT I could be mistaken. BTW, I still believe it was a "yuk it up , backslapper" to the conservatives on this post because of its author rather that its content.

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Scott36

Aug-24-13 11:07 AM

Bobbie2- Very good. You do seem to possess a certain degree of intelligence. However your alluding to "liberals" being thieves,& liars without giving any examples other than your obvious distain is at best lacking. From what you state, it would seem that you, and only you and people who think like you, are"lest bit capable of understanding how the real world works." Thinking like this I would have corrected in my child at the earliest age he was capable of understanding the English language. You did IMO show a slight glimmer of hope in your last sentence when you used the word "most". Hint: Not everything a "liberal" says is wrong, anymore than everything a "conservative" says is wrong.

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Scott36

Aug-24-13 10:49 AM

I am 72 Scott, and I remember the Thomas hearings very clearly. Anita Hill was NOT a very believable witness, but came across as someone bitter over being dumped! And Spector came across as the liberal idiot he has always been!!!!-USABorn This may be your opinion, and you are most certainly entitled to it. But, it still does not address the issue I brought up to Mr. Knauff, The AM Radio crowd was on it from second one. I will ask you also, do you not think that it was an allegation worth looking into considering it involved the lifelong appointment of a United States Supreme Court Justice?

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Scott36

Aug-24-13 10:40 AM

USABorn-You are completely correct, this is an acceptable use of the word "jousting". I was more correcting the spelling, and "guessing" at the word he was going after.

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USABorn

Aug-24-13 2:45 AM

Scott36 - 5:52 PM

"If you meant "jousting", I am sorry, but I do not own a horse. PLEASE feel free to correct me on any facts I am not "quick enough to capture the truth or anything like a fact" on."

One fact you are lacking is the term "verbal jousting," which has been in use my entire lifetime,and with no horse required.

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USABorn

Aug-24-13 2:37 AM

VinceKnauff - 3:17 PM

"I do not know your age, but he was accused of sexual harassment/inappropriate behavior. As Bobbie says, it was by Anita Hill, She was "questioned" by former senator Spector.

I am 51, Scott, and I know the history of the Clarence Thomas hearings."

I am 72 Scott, and I remember the Thomas hearings very clearly. Anita Hill was NOT a very believable witness, but came across as someone bitter over being dumped! And Spector came across as the liberal idiot he has always been!!!!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-24-13 2:36 AM

Cont>>

Your information or opinions could be right or wrong but regardless of that, you think there is an objective standard of perfection that each of these people should meet. Morality is not relative.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-24-13 2:35 AM

Remember your buddy MrShaman wrote this the other day ""Immorality" is a relative-concept."-Bobbie2 I have seen this quote being kicked around as of late, Would somebody please explain what is false regarding this statement, and please try to be a little more adult than to point to its author on these boards."--scott36

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My dear Scott36, I see you have answered this yourself a handful of times on multiple posts today. You have consistently brought up principles of what is right, what ought to be done or behaviors portrayed by some fell short of a perfect mark.

You attacked Clarence Thomas because his alleged actions fell short of being a perfect gentleman around a lady.

You claim that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney are guilty of war crimes because you believe that they pre-meditated murder of people or some similar atrocity.

You accuse Bobbie2 of abusing people because some of the posts are contrary to some standard that you think they should follow.

C

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 9:32 PM

Are you even capable of feeding yourself?-Bobbie2

Yes, I mastered the feat quite a few years ago. Yourself?

Bobbie2, Everybody likes to throw jabs from time to time, but it seems that this is all you are capable of spewing out, & at times disgustingly I might add. It makes me sad to think of what type of upbringing you must have had,(providing that you are an adult, physically at least) & what a miserable existence you must endure. It must be pure misery to live within earshot of your voice & pure torture to live within the same dwelling. As to the people who are related to you, they have my profound condolences. SO SAD!!! Scott

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 8:34 PM

Conducting a crime that you don't agree with is not a crime.-enigma

With all of my "clownish attempts at verbal joisting?" the best I am able to put into words for this particular statement is HUH?

The argument, correction--statement I will respond to your post is that "torture" is a war crime. I was not aware that our current Commander In Chief was still using this practice. Sexual harassment was the original topic of this letter, however I was under the assumption that you were asking for a Republican who committed a crime. If I am mistaken, my bad, however, it now is what it is. AND no matter how you try to spin it, torture is a war crime. In the schools I attended we were taught that we(Americans) were better than those who resorted to these methods. Scott

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Ritty77

Aug-23-13 7:53 PM

"Perhaps you should put that question to Chancey Allen Luna or James Francis Edwards, Jr. they appear to be a direct result of the liberal "Immorality" is a relative-concept. Or if those two are incommunicado maybe you could speak to Demetruis Glenn." —Bobbie

That reminds me: When a Black Democrat assaults someone and gets shot for his efforts, Obama comes to the Presidential podium and publicly fantasizes about being his daddy. But when Black Democrats beat an old man to death and shoot and kill "for the fun of it," crickets.

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Capricorn1

Aug-23-13 7:42 PM

I'm just sitting back shaking my head and wondering what the victims of this pig of a man would think if they read this thread.... they could care less if he is left, right, or up a tree, they only remember the disgusting behavior they had to put up with just to keep their job.

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enigma

Aug-23-13 6:53 PM

Scott, After giving it some thought, I agree that jest was the correct term. After all another name for a jester is a fool. Who am I to disagree with you on that? Jest sayin' Damn, this is fun.

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enigma

Aug-23-13 6:37 PM

Scott36,"LOL, are you serious??? How about these two--George W. Bush, Dick Cheney---War crimes to boot."

Actually your return volley was pretty good. Of course I helped out with my misspelling of jousting. Then you did a little jesting with this one (made a clown of yourself). Bush and Cheney were not guilty of war crimes. Conducting a crime that you don't agree with is not a crime. If they did commit war crimes then Obama is also guilty as he continued all of the Bush war policies until he was kicked out of Iraq. He then stepped up the "war crimes" in Afghanistan. Of course all of that is moot because the crime in question was sexual harassment. Did you forget the subject of the discussion? I think not, but since you couldn't come up with a liberal talking point answer, you decided to change the subject to one of the favorite liberal talking points (which is also a lie).

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underwood

Aug-23-13 6:20 PM

Some people have an awful time separating facts from allegations and opinions, especially when their ideology is in question.

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 6:15 PM

Perhaps you should put that question to Chancey Allen Luna or James Francis Edwards, Jr. they appear to be a direct result of the liberal "Immorality" is a relative-concept. Or if those two are incommunicado maybe you could speak to Demetruis Glenn. If you wanna stay closer to home why not skip down to 3rd and Hepburn and have a chat with Tyrell Boyd.-Bobbie2

It appears that the comment was just a "yuk it up backslapper" to the conservatives on this board because of who made it. VERY mature.

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 6:07 PM

Can't you come up with a Republican who actually did the crime?-enigma

LOL, are you serious??? How about these two--George W. Bush, Dick Cheney---War crimes to boot.

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