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Throw him out!

August 23, 2013

What is wrong with people that an elected official with a lecherous attitude towards women who work for him is still in office? I am a Democrat and liberal but I do not understand how Mayor Filner......

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Capricorn1

Aug-23-13 5:50 AM

Filner is already packing his office and he is resigning as part of a deal he worked out with the city. The city in turn will have to pay for any settlement with regards to law suits. So the tax payers will have to pay for this man's behavior.

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VinceKnauff

Aug-23-13 5:52 AM

Chuck, the Dem party knew about these abuses by Filner before the last election cycle but ran him anyway. They put more importance in keeping the office than they put in the abuses he made on a dozen or more women. Reporter Doug Curlee admitted that he and other reporters knew that Filner was a pig - rumors have been known for years - but did nothing about it and never attempted to learn more. Members of Congress (he was there 20 years) also knew that he was a pig but they did nothing either, choosing to look the other way rather than risking losing the seat.

The rule here is, Democrats hide and protect people like Filner when they learn about them. Republicans get rid of people (Mark Foley, anybody?) when such dirty laundry is known.

So Chuck had it wrong. It is handled differently depending on what party the offender belongs to.

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VinceKnauff

Aug-23-13 6:02 AM

But I have to say that it is welcoming to see Chuck breaking from the standard practice I outlined that other Democrats usually take in these situations.

I know Chuck does not comment on his own letters. But this once, Chuck, will you tell us how you feel about this now that you know that Democrats have covered for Filner for many years?

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DavidBross

Aug-23-13 6:53 AM

"The rule here is, Democrats hide and protect people like Filner when they learn about them. Republicans get rid of people (Mark Foley, anybody?) when such dirty laundry is known." Vince, this is quite a sweeping statement. Also, does your statement apply to other kinds of dirty laundry?

"So Chuck had it wrong. It is handled differently depending on what party the offender belongs to." If you are talking about how the media reacts, I agree. If you are talking about how the parties react, I think that how both parties react to offenders of all stripes depends on how valuable the offender is to the party.

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spike2

Aug-23-13 7:01 AM

Vince - so says Fox News. Fox takes an incident where everyone agrees and tries to create havoc. This man is disgusting and resignation is not enough. I hold the older women just as accountable as news reporters. Don't say that 'they needed their jobs". Se xual harassment should always, always be reported. Who is subservient to men in this century?

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VinceKnauff

Aug-23-13 7:12 AM

If you are talking about how the parties react, I think that how both parties react to offenders of all stripes depends on how valuable the offender is to the party.

I totally agree that the media is guilty of aiding and abetting this behavior with Democrats. And this bias is probably a large part of why Republicans get rid of the scoundrel as soon as they learn about it, because the media won't let it go when it's a Republican (Mark Foley, again). But why is it that women abused by Democrats seem to put party loyalty ahead of their own abuse? Imagine if the women abused by Bill Clinton would have stepped up. The USA would be a much different place than it now is.

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Capricorn1

Aug-23-13 7:18 AM

This type of behavior doesn't happen overnight and to think that heads weren't turned the other way by many is being extremely naïve. The chair of the democratic party in San Diego "claimed" she was "absolutely dumbfounded" and I'm sure many more in the coming weeks will be struggling to distance themselves from ever knowing him. Their problem is Gloria Alfred is on the case and she's known for being a piranha. I'm hoping they do bring to light anyone that knowingly covered up this man's behavior and hold them accountable too.

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Capricorn1

Aug-23-13 7:19 AM

That should be Gloria Allred.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-23-13 7:52 AM

CMReeder,

Thank you for standing up for what is right. But as you stand there and blindly defend the Democrat party, you are also pointing the finger of blame at yourself. All of us should rise above the politics and hold politicians and the parties responsible.

Secondly, there is a attitude that morality is relative and situational dependent. Your buddy MrShaman wrote this the other day ""Immorality" is a relative-concept." By Vince pointing out that if the political seat is important to the Democrat (or Republican) party, there is a tendency to hide these situations and cover it up, displays this situational morality. This is the secular humanism that has pour into the US through Supreme Court rulings like Roe v. Wade.

Relative moralism is an attack on God and that there are absolute truths. Right is right and wrong is wrong. The difficult thing is when two moral principals are applied to a situation and one has to take precedence over the other.

Than

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VinceKnauff

Aug-23-13 8:03 AM

David asked - "Vince, this is quite a sweeping statement. Also, does your statement apply to other kinds of dirty laundry?"

I cannot think of such a situation, David. But anticipating where you are going, let me say that the media usually has a very different definition of dirty laundry depending on who they are talking about. I put to you that most of the time what the media classifies as dirty laundry regarding Republicans isn't really dirty laundry to regular people.

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LM3166

Aug-23-13 8:04 AM

I am glad to hear this man is resigning. I am a Republican, but come on, a pig is a pig, let's not try to dress the pig up in a donkey or an elephant costume. There should have been no deals made, nor any agreement to cover any forthcoming lawsuits in my opinion. The taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill for his bad behavior! He should forfeit all government supported future pension/healthcare earnings as well.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-23-13 8:21 AM

"But as you stand there and blindly defend the Democrat party, you are also pointing the finger of blame at yourself."

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Chuck writes a letter calling for Democrat to resign, Chuck gets attacked for 'blinding defend[ing] the Democrat party'.

Simply amazing.

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USABorn

Aug-23-13 8:32 AM

The sadist part of this story is, if he runs for office again, he will probably win. Look at NYC. The democrats there are being called the Party of Perverts because FOUR of them are running for office.

And while Reeder states this is not a one party problem, he CONVENIENTLY forgot to add, that for every republican caught up in scandal involving sex, there seems to be at least a half dozen dems.

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SteelerFan

Aug-23-13 8:35 AM

I heard that Mayor Filner used the N-word 30 years ago. That alone should be grounds for dragging his sorry butt out of San Diego.

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Capricorn1

Aug-23-13 8:39 AM

Jerry, I have to agree. I'll be the first one to admit that I'm often critical of Chuck's letters and comments. His letters are often nothing but finger pointing. But in my opinion this isn't one of his usual letters and I happen to agree with it in whole. This issue shouldn't be labeled a left or right problem, it's a societal problem and should not be tolerated by anyone.

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enigma

Aug-23-13 8:45 AM

Welcome to the party Chuck. It's nice that the Democrat Party finally gave it's permission to call for Filner's resignation. They defended him and his horrendous behavior until so many women had come forward that collapse was inevitable. Even now Gloria Allred is silent in the media. Had the mayor been a Republican, it would have taken only one woman for them to be outraged, and Ms. Allred would be on every network. Why does right and wrong have to politicized? Shouldn't we hold people to account based on their behavior without looking at the letter after the name? We need people in office who are trustworthy, not people who registered in the "right party". Before the lefties get all outraged, yes, Republicans are sometimes guilty of the same thing, but they get called out for it in the media so they have to back off sooner. It's wrong when anybody plays politics with decency.

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DavidBross

Aug-23-13 9:14 AM

There is an interesting theme in many of the posts for this letter. It goes like this: Both parties do bad things. The reason the Republicans take care of the rotten apples in their barrel sooner than the Democrats is that the media focuses on the Republicans. (I think that is true) But, what I take from this is neither party would do much to remove rotten apples without outside pressure. Doesn't say much for either party.

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Darlin

Aug-23-13 9:14 AM

Shame on you Chucky, you call yourself a Democrat and liberal, then you should just excuse this man's actions and look the other way. After all that is the Democratic way.

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eriklatranyi

Aug-23-13 9:24 AM

With Filner, Weiner, Spitzer, etc., it demonstrates the DNC lie of a Republican "war on women".

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enigma

Aug-23-13 9:27 AM

DavidBross,"neither party would do much to remove rotten apples without outside pressure. Doesn't say much for either party."

I agree completely David. What we shouldn't forget is that the parties are made up of and supported by the people. That doesn't say much for the morality of the people. Allowing a political agenda to affect one's view of morality is a sad state of affairs. I must admit that at times in the past, I have been guilty of this to varying degrees. NO MORE! I will never again excuse bad behavior based on the political alignment of the perpetrator.

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enigma

Aug-23-13 9:36 AM

Spike2,"I hold the older women just as accountable as news reporters. Don't say that 'they needed their jobs". Se xual harassment should always, always be reported."

I agree that abuse should always be reported, but it's a lot easier to say when it's not your job. Ideally these women should have reported it, but they would likely have lost their jobs and nothing would have happened. That's how it works with politicians. People are destroyed and crimes covered up. Bill Clinton was a serial woman abuser and is still popular. Ted Kennedy was ten times worse and he's a folk hero. You might want to lighten up a little on these women.

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JohnZook

Aug-23-13 9:43 AM

The "Ragin' Cajun" James Carville made the statement,"Drag a twenty dollar bill through a trailer court and see what you pick up." This kind of behavior is a "gold star" for any Democrat. This will be forgotten quickly and this guy will run for office again with all the support of the Dems. When one of these women pop up they will be dragged through the mud and slandered by the media and the party.

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underwood

Aug-23-13 9:58 AM

This case goes beyond bad behavior; it’s an infringement upon other’s rights done by an official elected to enforce the law. Anyone in a position of authority guilty of breaking the law should be held to a higher standard and punished accordingly.

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Scott36

Aug-23-13 11:01 AM

When one of these women pop up they will be dragged through the mud and slandered by the media and the party.-JohnZook Let's take a walk down memory lane, to one that had quite a profound effect to the country (past, present, & future) Does the name Clarence Thomas ring a bell? People who act immorally do not do so because of party affiliation.

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VinceKnauff

Aug-23-13 12:10 PM

What did Clarence Thomas do that you refer to Scott? Try to not read your answer from some Liberal talking point website because we will all know if you did.

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