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Infuriated

August 24, 2013

Today I heard on my local WETM News that a Pennsylvania judge barred the Voter ID law for the upcoming November elections. This infuriates me and our organization, the Mansfield Tea Party....

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Tgrammiex4

Aug-24-13 5:24 AM

I would think anyone who can LEGALLY vote would have no issue with getting ID and showing it at the polls.

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Premier

Aug-24-13 5:41 AM

I don't understand how anyone could be disenfranchised by this law. These people who supposedly have no photo ID, I guess they will never get sick and go to the hospital because you won't get admitted with out it. That's Federal Law to reduced identity theft.

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eriklatranyi

Aug-24-13 6:18 AM

The Obama Administration and many liberals support lawbreakers over honest citizens as witnessed by their support of ID-free voting and unlimited illegal immigration.

If you do not agree with them, liberals will harass you and tie you up in court, just as they are doing to Texas and other states trying to implement Voter ID or enforcement of current immigration laws.

When you also consider liberal support for felons voting, you can see that one party absolutely favors criminals.

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MrShaman

Aug-24-13 6:37 AM

"The Voter ID Law went into effect in 2012 when President Obama was elected; it has been barred ever since. Rather makes you think, huh?" - Ida Temple

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Not really. All you have to do is tell the election-official you don't HAVE your ID; "problem" solved!!

BTW...seeing-as-how it seems so "critical", to them...what funding has the Tea Party PROVIDED, to implement this legislation?? I thought the Tea Party was all-about CUTTING federal-spending??? Wouldn't it make MORE sense, NOT spending on an issue that doesn't exist?

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MrShaman

Aug-24-13 6:39 AM

"I agree with you Ms. Temple. Picture Identification insures that the person voting is who they say they are. What could possibly be wrong with that?" - Francine

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GREAT!! When does the Tea Party plan on having that infrastructure in-place??

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MrShaman

Aug-24-13 6:44 AM

"The Obama Administration and many liberals support lawbreakers over honest citizens as witnessed by their support of ID-free voting and unlimited illegal immigration." - eriklatranyi

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Hmmmmmm...does...

"You make this statement as if it is fact.

Yet you have ZERO facts on your side.

You use fear and hysteria to drive your argument, but cannot back it up with data or examples."

...sound familiar?

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Ritty77

Aug-24-13 7:01 AM

"When you also consider liberal support for felons voting..."

A felon who has completed his or her sentence, any probation/parole, and paid all fines/costs/restitution should have his or her right to vote restored. Proper photo ID will be required.

Non-violent/non-weapon-related offenders should also have his or her right to own a firearm restored.

Erik, I have asked before why a person should have his or her Constitutional rights permanently removed. Perhaps I missed your response. Should he or she also lose the rights of free speech or freedom from unreasonable search, etc?

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mikekerstetter

Aug-24-13 7:20 AM

I have to agree with Ritty. Those who have made mistakes, paid their debt to society and have become law-abiding productive citizens again should be allowed the same rights as everyone else.

I don't believe our constitution guarantees the right to vote, but I believe they should be allowed to vote nonetheless.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-24-13 7:34 AM

The ruling was a victory for the Constitution! I applaud this common sense decision.

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Capricorn1

Aug-24-13 7:45 AM

Jerry, why aren't you folks demanding that the government help all those people get an ID? Can you imagine your life if you didn't have an ID? Why would you want to keep them disenfranchised? I hear the administration rally against this law, but nothing is ever mentioned about helping these folks get an ID to make their life easier. They are literally crippled in today's society and as long as they can vote, the left seems to care less about everything else in life they can't do. Their sense of concern for these people doesn't impress me.

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mikekerstetter

Aug-24-13 7:45 AM

JerryfromRI-"The ruling was a victory for the Constitution! I applaud this common sense decision."

Jerry, can you point me to the part of the Constitution that guarantees the right to vote?

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CMReeder

Aug-24-13 7:57 AM

I see Ida you are made because the law would have prevented Obama from being re-elected. Why is that because he did through fraud.

There is fraud here Ida and that fraud is perpetrated by you.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-24-13 8:00 AM

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States" The 14th amendment, section One.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-24-13 8:07 AM

"They are literally crippled in today's society"

So what.

It's not the governments job to tell people how to live their lives. Being free means being free to make dumb decisions. The right to vote is fundamental to a functioning democracy an. Thousands of people who are eligable to vote would not be able to cast a ballet. It's wrong. It's bad law. It's bad policy.

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spike2

Aug-24-13 8:11 AM

I think we do need to make an effort to get older people, who historically voted, in compliance. I know that expires photo I.D. was not acceptable. Often seniors give up driving and therefore lose their only photo I.D.. We do need some type of system in place to guarantee access for everyone.

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eriklatranyi

Aug-24-13 8:16 AM

Ritty:

Liberals propose to allow all felons to automatically have their voting rights restored.

The current system works on a case-by-case basis where a judge can restore voting rights lost due to a felony conviction.

I do not think a rehabilitated murderer should automatically get their voting privileges restored.

That felon took one voter away and should never vote again.

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eriklatranyi

Aug-24-13 8:21 AM

Mr. Shaman:

Examples and Facts:

Texas woman arrested for voting multiple times

Nevada woman arrested for voting multiple times

Kentucky man arrested for voting twice

Ohio poll worker arrested for voting 6 times

Dallas detects votes by 600 non-citizens

41 Dead Voters discovered requesting ballots in Texas

10,000 voter registrations, submitted by ACORN, tossed because they contained fraudulent addresses and personal information

NOW SHUT UP

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JerryfromRI

Aug-24-13 8:27 AM

I was not aware Eric was the moderator for this forum.

PS: We will not "shut up".

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CMReeder

Aug-24-13 8:29 AM

"I was not aware Eric was the moderator for this forum."

You will find out there is more than one here who think they can moderate what you say.

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MrShaman

Aug-24-13 8:34 AM

"I hear the administration rally against this law, but nothing is ever mentioned about helping these folks get an ID to make their life easier. They are literally crippled in today's society and as long as they can vote, the left seems to care less about everything else in life they can't do. Their sense of concern for these people doesn't impress me." - Capricorn1

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So...what legislation would you prefer the administration propose...that John Boner & the T-Baggin' Class O' 2010 would (no doubt) object-to????

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Capricorn1

Aug-24-13 8:39 AM

Whoa Jerry... I thought the left was using the poor and the elderly who didn't have the means of getting an ID, as the reason this law was not just. So when I question why government isn't helping these people, you suddenly say that these people are just making dumb decisions not to get one and it's not government's job. So which is it? Are they just too stupid to get an ID or are they truly too poor or the elderly and don't have the means?

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MrShaman

Aug-24-13 8:40 AM

Mr. Shaman:

Examples and Facts:

Texas woman arrested for voting multiple times

Nevada woman arrested for voting multiple times

Kentucky man arrested for voting twice

Ohio poll worker arrested for voting 6 times

Dallas detects votes by 600 non-citizens

41 Dead Voters discovered requesting ballots in Texas

10,000 voter registrations, submitted by ACORN, tossed because they contained fraudulent addresses and personal information. - eriklatranyi

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Very creative.

The next time, you should make-up some dates, as well.

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Ritty77

Aug-24-13 8:41 AM

Those who commit the worst crimes will receive the longest (even life) sentences with very lengthy parole periods. Therefore, they would already be ineligible under the requirements I suggested. Most states have exactly that.

Only twelve states permanently revoke voting rights—and then only for specifically listed crimes (even then, the felon is allowed a lengthy process to try to restore his or her right to vote).

One can't cite recidivism and re-assimilation/rehabilitation statistics while at the same time denying the ex-con his or her right to regain the basic rights of an involved citizen.

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MrShaman

Aug-24-13 8:43 AM

"I was not aware Eric was the moderator for this forum." - JerryfromRI

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I think he'd be better-described as a "vessel", for all things expelled...from the South-end of a North-bound Porky Limbaugh.

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Capricorn1

Aug-24-13 8:44 AM

So...what legislation would you prefer the administration propose...that John Boner & the T-Baggin' Class O' 2010 would (no doubt) object-to???? -Shaman

I would prefer the federal government stay out of the state's business.

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