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August 25, 2013

It's not surprising that no one wanted their name on the shoddy piece of propaganda (“Separating gas drilling fact from fiction – study is a good first step,” 8/4/13) which capped your biased......

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-28-13 5:57 AM

BornHere, I hope that your brother enjoys living in Canada. The worst of the summer heat is almost done; he could wait until next May to move. :-)

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BornHere

Aug-27-13 9:37 PM

I forgot one thing Texas my entire family reads this newspaper and my sister-in-law that lives in Ashville, NC also, we've had many discussions about the comments on here some good some bad, I myself also comment in 2 other newspapers.

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BornHere

Aug-27-13 8:12 PM

We were having breakfast this morning together (bagels and cream cheese), while I was reading the Sun-Gazette my phone rang and he read your comment while I was talking to our sister, as a matter of fact he told me that you were the only one on here who knows what you talking about. He's doing a job transfer next month to Alberta, Canada he doesn't like Texas. And yes I do trust you with giving me honest answers and that is something I don't tell to many people. Anyway bath time for my granddaughter take care Texas.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-27-13 7:36 PM

BornHere,

Have you ever know me to lie?

BTW, how long have you been vetting my posts with your brother?

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BornHere

Aug-27-13 3:42 PM

Thanks Texas, I asked my brother I can't say who he works for but he is a Research Engineer in Houston, TX he told me that diesel fuel is another component of some fracturing fluids although it is not used as an additive in all hydraulic fracturing operations. Diesel is used based on formation characteristics. I needed him to explain your comment for me and by the way he said you are correct.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-27-13 6:05 AM

Cont>>> design.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-27-13 6:04 AM

""Drillers defend injecting diesel into the ground".

Most hydraulic fracturing fluid uses water as its primary component, but in formations where water is absorbed too easily "such as in certain kinds of clay", diesel is used as an additive."-BornHere

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I believe the drillers are talking about trying to stabilize the wellbore during the drilling operation. Some formations have different crystalline structure clays (kaolinite, pecktite, etc sp??) that will swell and heave causing the drilling hole to have problems and could lead to a poor cement job. A non-water based substance like diesel is pumped down to coat the layer of clays so they will stop adsorbing fresh water in the drilling mud and won't swell up. This is done in the deeper section of hole below the fresh water zones that are cased off and protected. An option is to use brine based drilling muds. It is about protecting the wellbore and trying to get the best wellbore casing and cement de

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BornHere

Aug-26-13 8:50 PM

Chron...August 25, 2013

"Drillers defend injecting diesel into the ground".

Most hydraulic fracturing fluid uses water as its primary component, but in formations where water is absorbed too easily "such as in certain kinds of clay", diesel is used as an additive.

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pinecr

Aug-26-13 10:24 AM

Hey Erik...if there is nothing to worry about with the fracking fluid, then why doesn't the gas industry release all of the chemicals found in the fluid...I can tell you why, because it is pure poison and they don't want the public to know what will be in our water and air in the next 10 years if they are allowed to continue to frack.

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pinecr

Aug-26-13 10:22 AM

Well Roger, you obviously haven't looked where you should be looking...you have to leave the city to see the negative results of the gas industry, and I trust you have not been off the hard road and driven to the tops of the mountains to see exactly what is going on...and the methane coming off the well sites as they flare them...

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BornHere

Aug-26-13 7:53 AM

Sorry Jerry that was suppose to be January 2013 not 2011.

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BornHere

Aug-26-13 6:51 AM

There is a saying that people use that live in the Gulf, "Spill Baby Spill".

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Garben78

Aug-26-13 4:37 AM

Drill baby drill baby drill

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DavidBross

Aug-25-13 8:50 PM

"Yes, we carefully screen our candidates unlike the DNC which would elect an inexperienced, inarticulate candidate due to the color of his skin." Erik, two things. First, please explain how that careful screening worked in the '08 and '12 presidential elections. I'm thinking that Palin, and the series of presidential hopefuls (Bachman, Perry, Cain, and to a lesser degree, Santorum) that ran in '12 seemed more like shooting stars than candidates who belonged in the national political scene. Second, it sounds like you believe the the DNC and RNC elect candidates. I now this post is from anoher thread. But, Erik, I would really like to hear how that careful screening worked in 08 and 12.

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BornHere

Aug-25-13 7:09 PM

Jerry:

I found this for you.

January 2011

Three legislators from the House of Representatives Henry Waxman, Edward Markey, Diana DeGette found that while the public and legislature had been led to believe that this practice had ceased even before the passage of the "Energy Policy Act" oil and gas service companies injected 32.2 Million gallons of diesel fuel into wells in 19 States. In Pa. alone diesel fuel was used 45 times between 1/2011-8/2012.

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eriklatranyi

Aug-25-13 6:07 PM

Jerry:

I am not aware that diesel has been used in frack fluid for at least the past 10-plus years.

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BornHere

Aug-25-13 4:28 PM

Yes.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-25-13 4:08 PM

Hey Erik - Has diesel been used in fracking fluid in PA at anytime in the last three years?

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CMReeder

Aug-25-13 12:41 PM

Looks like some don't invest any emotions whatsoever. Sad.

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CMReeder

Aug-25-13 12:39 PM

I agree with Scott36 good post David.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 11:24 AM

DavidBross--Good comment!! Scott

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underwood

Aug-25-13 8:42 AM

When one considers the facts (science) concerning gas production, one will see that claims of pollution, both groundwater and air, are groundless and based upon emotion bordering on hysteria.

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DavidBross

Aug-25-13 8:24 AM

"(EDITOR'S NOTE: Sun-Gazette editorials represent the newspaper's opinion, independent of its news coverage, and as such do not carry a byline.)" They should. After all, LTEs have their authors' names attached. Also, given the obvious difference in style and quality of the editorials that represent the paper's opinion, this shows that the impact individual authors have on an editorial even thought it is supposed to represent the "paper". Of course, if the paper has opinions, then perhaps it is a person. I believe the Supreme Court has supported the notion of corporations being considered people. If so, then one could say that it/he/she has several distinct personalities. And, such a condition is usually considered an illness in people.

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garder54

Aug-25-13 8:23 AM

FTFY, Penn College*

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CMReeder

Aug-25-13 8:02 AM

Good questions in the letter and no answers to them.

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