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Whine and crackers

August 25, 2013

There have been several letters about racism and where people feel that it is being portrayed in our lives. A recent letter on that subject caught my attention....

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Scott36

Aug-29-13 3:29 PM

How did you get the idea that I idolize the Rat party?-Bobbie2

It shows, when out of talking points, resort to insults. VERY WEAK, your setting yourself up!!!LOL

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Scott36

Aug-27-13 1:20 PM

By the way, 36IQ, the ones that fought like him in WWII were shot as the traitors they were.Bobbie2

Get up to speed biddy, he did not fight in that war. It was a different time. I am sorry that you did not have the benefit of being taught that people who fight for America are heroes. I also realize that you idolize a political minority that feels only relevant when preaching hate,(a lot of the time against fellow Americans) but It still is not an excuse.

BTW, what has your pot boiling over today? Neighbors taking up a collection to buy you out?

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USABorn

Aug-27-13 7:34 AM

WOW!!!!!!!!!Talk about bloviating and making oneself look ridiculous.

Reeder manages to do it every time. What is this fixation he has with wanting everyone in the SG reading area to know he is a totally mindless liberal?

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Scott36

Aug-26-13 1:12 PM

Self decorated slimy gigolo.-Bobbie2

This statement deserves a response, and it is going to be delivered by a liberal.

This "self decorated slimy gigolo", & others like him fought for your right to(among other things) be repulsive in print, even someone with a 36 IQ realizes this. Again, what a completely miserable existence you must endure.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 8:57 PM

Mr.Knauff, So it would seem from what you are suggesting it is the Republicans holding back the conservatives? Or is it the conservatives dragging down the Republicans?? Just my opinion, but it would appear that the hard right conservatives are dragging down the once respectable GOP.

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VinceKnauff

Aug-25-13 8:05 PM

Scott asked - Why do the conservatives not start their own party?

Because we would end up with another Democrat president. Remember 1992? The only (ONLY) reason Clinton won in 1992 was because Ross Perot siphoned off 20% of the Republican vote away fron GHW Bush and allowed Clinton to win with 42% of the vote. Splitting from the Republican party will only split the Conservative vote and guarantee Democrat wins anytime that happens.

Republicans have to stop trying to be Democrat Lites and return to what their conservative base wants.

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underwood

Aug-25-13 7:26 PM

Linhk48, if you’re going to quote someone, make sure you assign the quote to the correct person. I never posted what you claimed.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 6:43 PM

erik- I never served, some in my family have. I will not try to pick apart a decorated war veteran, or support anybody who does for a political party, ANY POLITICAL PARTY. That is me, how much skin do you have in the game????? This is my personal view, period.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 6:38 PM

Better just to run a principled Conservative and offer a clear alternative to the current administration's failed, destructive policies.-Ritty77

Why do the conservatives not start their own party? The way it is now(you tea-party members are to be commended for your turn outs at primaries)the hard right conservatives are choosing the Republican choice. Why do you not start your own party, and stand on your own, rather than messing up the once great GOP??

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VinceKnauff

Aug-25-13 6:33 PM

What special treatment do you feel is given? We have more Caucasians receiving housing subsidies, welfare and food stamps than minorities.

Spike - you are just wrong. Sure there are more caucasians receiving benefits, but not on a per-capita basis. Blacks receive 40% of government benefits but make up less than 20% of the US population. Seeing such a disproportionate ratio can not help in reducing racist resentment.

And I noticed that you vaguely stated that Clarence Thomas repeatedly did not recuse from cases where he should have without mentioning any such cases. Are you invoking the Reeder / Hilfirty rule here?

Simply put - there should be no racial quotas anywhere in any direction. Period. Time has long passed since such quotas have been needed. Groups such as the NAACP and the Rainbow Coalition or the Southern Poverty Law Center are obsolete and have no validity today.

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eriklatranyi

Aug-25-13 6:10 PM

Scott:

The Swift-Boat Vets were right.

John Kerry was not in Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968.

When a man blatantly lies, it is the duty of men-of-honor to call him on it.

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JohnZook

Aug-25-13 5:48 PM

The reason Jackson and Sharpton are still relevant is because it's their job to deliver minority votes at election time and then be seen at Democratic functions to show how the Dems appreciate minorities. If there are black people at a Republican function, they are said to be there as "window dressing" to try to prove they don't hate black people.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 2:00 PM

Any GOP candidate will be called an uncaring, woman-hating, racist, bigoted extremist, and his or her record and positions will be the subject of endless, lying political ads.-Ritty77

Like a decorated war hero? swift-boating ?

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Ritty77

Aug-25-13 1:24 PM

"You will lose again unless the GOP gets smart and runs a moderate."

Didn't the GOP run a "moderate" in 2008, with McCain, and in 2012, with Romney?

Does the Democrat party run "moderates"?

If by "moderate" you mean someone who is pro-abortion, pro-open borders, pro-tax and spend, then I think what you want the GOP to run is a Democrat.

Any GOP candidate will be called an uncaring, woman-hating, racist, bigoted extremist, and his or her record and positions will be the subject of endless, lying political ads.

Better just to run a principled Conservative and offer a clear alternative to the current administration's failed, destructive policies. Then, when it's time for REAL "change," such an option will be available and attractive.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 11:45 AM

Vince - Because it doesn't fit the agenda. The leftists must keep people under their thumbs because it is the only way they can have any power-CarlHiller

WOW-This is slightly off topic, but I simply could not resist! How about applying this statement to the conservative/tea party platform. Marco Rubio is an example.

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Scott36

Aug-25-13 11:38 AM

This shouldn't be political at all.-Tgrammiex4

I agree completely. But it is. Until we all condemn racism/bigotry, it is never going to (if it even is possible) be settled. This "his racism is worse than mine" will solve nothing.IMO

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eriklatranyi

Aug-25-13 11:32 AM

Liberals proclaim themselves the champions of blacks.

Unfortunately, the statistics clearly show black citizens going backwards with regard to income, family, crime, assistance, and nearly every social and economic measure imaginable since liberals self-proclaimed themselves as defenders of minorities.

In fact, one could argue that black citizens were better-off prior to LBJs "Great Society" programs than they are today.

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Linhk48

Aug-25-13 11:23 AM

PhilUnderwood---nearly always the voice of intelligent sanity and reason--wrote:

" As long as they create a class of underlings dependent on the largess of the leftist ruling class they can remain and gain power."

And that, dear citizens, is a huge part of what is causing the decline of this country in so many ways--financial, intellectual and technological to name a few---and contributing causes for this country to lose the respect of the rest of the world in just a few generations.

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Capricorn1

Aug-25-13 10:32 AM

"We have more Caucasians receiving housing subsidies, welfare and food stamps than minorities."

Spike, that statement is very misleading because whites make up the majority of the population. When you do the math and go by percentages, the hard numbers of those receiving government assistance in the black communities is very grim. Much of that is due to the fact that 3/4 of black children live in fatherless homes. Another fact that is ignored.

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spike2

Aug-25-13 10:07 AM

Vince, I don't support quotas. I don't support any type of Affirmative Action. What special treatment do you feel is given? We have more Caucasians receiving housing subsidies, welfare and food stamps than minorities. The racial identifier will be greater in certain area but in the aggregate the Caucasians are receiving more. Clarence Thomas repeatedly fails to recuse himself when a conflict exists. Our local Judges are fastidious in recusing themselves when warranted. I assume your references are the Trayvon Martin case. I don't understand your last sentence re: diversity. Should we all stay "with our own kind?" This will all be moot however. You will lose again unless the GOP gets smart and runs a moderate. You seem to not understand that this "lib" can vote for a moderate republican. Run an extreme right winger and you will lose. Again and again. it's not free things. the GOP runs unacceptable candidates and has planks that cause many to turn away from you.

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VinceKnauff

Aug-25-13 9:49 AM

As long as you have people sorted into groups for the purpose of deciding how much extra help the government will give them, then you will have racism. Giving one group of people special treatment for reasons that haven't been relevant in decades will only cause resentment among those who are not in that special group.

When you have events blamed on racism where none is obvious, you breed resentment. When you have actions that are obviously racist in nature but never called racist, you breed resentment. Liberals are guilty of all these actions. Liberals perpetuate racism. If not for quotas and "diversity" racism would be far less a problem than it is.

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VinceKnauff

Aug-25-13 9:28 AM

Vince, the examples you give are all people on the hard right.

Spike - are you defending those on the left that call these conservative minorities derogatory and racist names? I noticed you deliberately avoided the entire point of my comment while trying to rebut it.

What laws has Clarence Thomas broken? Did he refuse to enforce some law he disagreed with?

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underwood

Aug-25-13 9:18 AM

The Tea Party Movement is nothing more than a mindset favoring individual liberty, limited government and Capitalism. There are individuals and groups identifying with the movement because they either believe in those principles or see political gain by doing so. The left can’t effectively argue against Tea Party principles without exposing their own principles, so they resort to their usual smear tactics, exaggerations and downright lies in an attempt to discredit the movement.

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spike2

Aug-25-13 8:52 AM

I agree that race-baiters exist. On all sides. I also find it completely ridiculous that white people feel they can speak to how black people may or may not feel. Vince, the examples you give are all people on the hard right. Apparently the white folk didn't admire Herman Cain much. Condy is a far better musician than pol. In all seriousness. She is a very gifted pianist. Clarence Thomas should be an embarrassment to all. he flagrantly violates laws while sitting on the highest court in our country. ted Cruz? Seriously. There are just as many bad players on the left side. I find it disturbing that those who comment find role models who fit their idea of good role models for others.

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Capricorn1

Aug-25-13 8:48 AM

As long as victimology and racism are used as in excuse, the real problems within the black community will never be solved. Those on the left and community "leaders" such as Jackson and Sharpton that influence others into believing their claims are doing nothing but continuing the racial tension in this country.

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