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The real causes

August 27, 2013

Activists allege that unequal outcomes are proof of discrimination without any consideration for other factors that may explain the unequal outcome....

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Scott36

Sep-02-13 2:59 PM

Texas, a good post, & it would seem that we share many of the same principles. Sorry it took so long to respond, my internet was out, just got fixed, if you see this have a safe, & happy Labor Day!! Scott

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-31-13 5:58 PM

Scott36,

God is the judge of the heart, as your comments allude to.

I just have a deep concern that all have a relationship with God and spend eternity with Him. Many people do believe in God or that Jesus walked on this earth but they believe they can "be good enough" or "do enough good things" to earn their way into heaven. Whereas the Bible says that one needs to believe that he died for our sins on the cross.

I just want to be clear and make sure that people truly do. Again, I don't know the true position of the heart but God does.

It doesn't bother me if you ask similar questions. Faith is personal but not private; Jesus tells us to go and make disciples and share the gospel message.

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Scott36

Aug-31-13 8:21 AM

Texas, I would feel sooooo much better if I got your official approval on my faith. Trust me, I spoke more about it than I normally would on an open forum like this. Not everybody on these boards are religious, & my feelings are not to put Him up for ridicule. I speak freely to people face to face. I also do not feel a need to "wear my faith on my sleeve". Oh & BTW, personally I could care less whether or not those like you approve, or disapprove of my beliefs, you people do not matter in that regard.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-30-13 8:13 PM

Scott36,

Evasive as always. Believe in Unicorns, fairy tales, God, Satan, self, government, other! Please answer the following questions.

Do you believe that God created the universe and all that is in it?

Do you believe that God is one in being, essence and character while three persons, ie the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man and that he died on the cross and was resurrected from the dead?

Do you believe that Jesus Christ was the full and complete propitiation for your sin against God?

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to God?

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Scott36

Aug-30-13 10:46 AM

. So, again I ask you, are you or aren't you a believer in what? -rmiller

For one, I did not "squint" at the quote, I just did not comment on it.

As to your question to me,(I have answered) WHO are YOU to make the decision on whether or not I am A believer????? In your head did He put you in charge of these decisions??? About my faith, WHAT Difference does it make about how YOU rate me??? Are YOU in charge of making "recommendations" on whether or not I fit the bill??? My Faith is extremely personal to me, I will give you this, you got me to say much more than I usually would. May God Bless you-Scott

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Scott36

Aug-30-13 10:33 AM

suggest that He is not all in all.-rmiller

HUH?

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 10:59 PM

Hello Texas! Well said, both posts!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-29-13 9:29 PM

"It's telling when a media avenue that for years has been on the raunchy side of life, is scrambling for PR control after the MTV awards show."--RMiller

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I don't think they can clean up their act enough to attract me to watch their channel.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Aug-29-13 9:17 PM

"I personally believe that it is an inner city problem more than anything."--scott36

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Sin problem. Disobedience to God problem.

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 8:12 PM

Scott,

You're stating on one hand that you are a believer and then on the other hand squint at the quotation from His Word, and on another hand, suggest that He is not all in all. So, again I ask you, are you or aren't you a believer in what?

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Scott36

Aug-29-13 7:54 PM

For starters, I am a believer. But He gave us free will, & not everybody is a believer. That being said, do you think just citing the Gospel, & saying "There's your answer" is going to solve anything? Does this "cover your butt"? Like it or not ALL of us are his flock. IMO, We still have a certain amount of responsibility.

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 7:37 PM

Scott,

I believe I addressed the white failings in one of my former posts, just made the difference because of the inner city being more problematic. And, I agree that the "inner city" is the biggest offender. This is not to leave off children of all socioeconomic levels.

You asked: "What is the answer?" He is not a what, rather a real person and even if you are not a believer, you must admit, that the verse I've quoted is weighty and telling in our current society. "We are a society without God, and "everyone does what is right in their own mind."

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Scott36

Aug-29-13 5:18 PM

rmiller, you bring up some very valid points. But are not others(in inner cities) acting in the same manner? White women do not have more than one child with more than one man? Their children are being little angles? I personally believe that it is an inner city problem more than anything. But What is the answer?

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 3:52 PM

We are a society without God, and "everyone does what is right in their own mind."

It's telling when a media avenue that for years has been on the raunchy side of life, is scrambling for PR control after the MTV awards show. Hat it stopped there, fine, let those of like mind, share same pig pen. But, for those who choose not to engage in tis type of lifestyle, our homepage PC's don't spare us the details.

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 3:48 PM

To footnote to my lengthy responses....I believe I stated earlier that even as a woman, I get frustrated at my gender now and here is why. I'm 61, so I know from whence I speak :) Women wanted equal rights - no problem. In the 70's and 80's the feminists were all over the male population in harassing and or exploiting women. Again, no problem...IF women are genuinely harassed and genuinely exploited. One take or tidbit of info about MTV's incident the other night with Miley Cyrus, and I want to scream...where are you feminists, now? Where are the feminists when one walk down the local mall and you see clothing on young girls that most women wear more to bed? Young women walk out doors with the carte blanche' of their mother and father's approval (if not dressed alike) and either or both parents would want a man executed who would dare look at their innocent girl in wrong manner? Where are the feminists? We are an upside down society.

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 3:41 PM

cont.

when the mother/father are out committing some type of crime, be it drug use, selling drugs, robbing someone/some place to get drugs, engaging in sexual activity with another potential father in line, just hanging out to be cool, whatever...this is our modern culture. This has nothing to do with genes. Having said the above, the stats show higher rates among black because blacks, and now Latinos are congregating more and more in our urban neighborhoods, where like persons live. We have Hip Hop music, which is filthy and promotes black racism against whites, against women, against authority. Blacks are shooting themselves in the feet, if you will. When all benefits are accounted for and the day is done, the reality is that a black person (if they are inclined to do so) have opportunities, because they are black, to get an education and excel in life. I personally believe that the general public is angry and fed up with providing excuses for minorities for their actions.

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 3:30 PM

Scott,

In many respects, we are all products of our environment (personally and socially). I have no doubt that blacks who have excelled/succeeded in rising above the "tide of the hood culture" have done so because somewhere "in the home" they were taught different. This is an issue with all cultures and ethnicities, not only blacks. However, it is hard to "teach" and or discipline correctly if that parent(s) environment didn't show them different. This is not about genes. Their color is about genes. Their subsequent actions, lifestyles are attributed in large part to environment. Just as with any other ethnicity, both parents in the home have children in more accountability than single parent families. As such, single parent families, are at a higher risk, but not insurmountable odds necessarily...again...depending on how he/she was raised. To take this to another level, the risk increases dramatically when children then start raising themselves

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Scott36

Aug-29-13 10:30 AM

rmiller, Points well taken, however when I hear anyone suggest that all of these downfalls are "taught", I feel a need to respond. Is it to be suggested that it is being taught to kill each other? to fail?, to try to be uneducated? IMO, unless you are saying that the blacks are trying to "push" these things, you should explain yourself better, lest you might be interpreted to be suggesting it is "in their genes".

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rmiller

Aug-29-13 12:07 AM

Scott,

I'm not hearing Cap's posts as racist, purely factual. And that is wherein the "shortfalls" are coming. We live in a society that has bent over backwards to accommodate, remedy, make good for, make special provisions for, find excuses for pre-civil war days. What happened in this country to black people was a dark spot in our history that will never be erased. But, those people who lived during those times, up to an including the late 60's are either dead or aging gracefully without the pounding of the eternal race drum. We learned from that and we've moved on, until the PC police decided our country needed the pot stirred again, over nothing. Scott, many a black person has risen above their "hood" entry level in life. Many more haven't. It still comes down to choice and the stats don't lie.

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rmiller

Aug-28-13 11:58 PM

Side,

Long time no hear! Racism exists and I know that there isn't one person here who doesn't believe otherwise. Here is the issue, however. It is not that racism exists, but racism is not the identifying common denominator for all crimes. I would suggest that greed, drugs and power prevail in the majority of motives in crime. The racism that you reference generally stays within circles and most of the persons you pointed out, wouldn't kill someone because of their "racism" real or imagined. What folks are tired of hearing is that racism is the catchall for wrongs against humanity. And, even if racism was the key player in crimes or other hurts inflicted upon another person(s) one can't change the heart. Years ago when the church wanted to align itself with public morality, chief complaint was, "You can't legislate morality". And, you can't legislate racism either.

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USABorn

Aug-28-13 6:18 PM

Pennsylvania State Chamber Calls Out Union on Funding Misrepresentations

August 28, 2013

Pennsylvania’s largest business advocacy group, the Chamber of Business and Industry, has challenged the repeated misrepresentations about state education funding made by the Pennsylvania State Education Association (PSEA), the state’s largest and most powerful public employee union.

“The state teachers’ union is spreading the fallacy that the Corbett administration has cut the amount of state dollars flowing to basic education,” Chamber president Gene Barr said Tuesday. “It has not”

The PSEA and its representatives have been saying for nearly two years that Corbett has cut $1 billion from state funding for pre-K-12 education.

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USABorn

Aug-28-13 6:16 PM

Barr’s public position reflects a Media Trackers Pennsylvania story last week indicating the union has been spreading a ”Big Lie” and attempting to tar Corbett as anti-education.

The union, if forthcoming, would note Corbett’s predecessor, Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell, was the one who actually cut state funding for pre-K- 12, Barr said.

“The previous administration accepted temporary, federal stimulus dollars for public education and reduced the state share [of public school funding]. This resulted in a decline in average state revenue per student…School districts were repeatedly warned that the money from the federal government would be short-lived and were urged to plan accordingly,” Barr said. “Many did not.”

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USABorn

Aug-28-13 6:15 PM

Here is an article from mediatrackersDOTcom:

“The fact is there is more state money currently flowing to pre-Kindergarten through 12th grade education than at any point in the history of the commonwealth,” Barr said.

Barr said education funding is a worthy subject for debate, but the amount “must be based on the ability of taxpayers to fund the system, and the debate must be grounded in facts.”

A spokesman for the PSEA, asked by Media Trackers for a response to Barr’s statement, said, “I’m not talking with you” and hung up the phone.

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fromtheport

Aug-28-13 12:48 AM

Capricorn I agree with everything you said, im tired of hearing excuses for blacks, im tired of dancing around the real issues. 20 years ago the 600 block of second street was a nice area, but the black community ruined it, 25 years ago the area of hepburn and high streets were at least decent, now just low life black thugs in that area, I could go on and on, but the point is the black community needs to get their crap together.

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DavidBross

Aug-27-13 10:04 PM

Rmiller, doing fine, thanks for asking. How about you and yours? I certainly agree that the performance must be the same for the pay to be the same.

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