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Testing the water

Gubernatorial candidate prioritizes education

August 28, 2013

Education, employment, transportation and energy — that’s what Democratic gubernatorial candidate John R....

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Premier

Aug-28-13 5:08 AM

"He wants to make the cost of education a 50-50 partnership between the state and taxpayers, rather than the 68 percent now on taxpayers' shoulders."

This from a typical politician. They do not realize ALL school funding comes from taxpayers. Brain dead.

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USABorn

Aug-28-13 5:21 AM

Were it not for the democrats and their their spend, spend, spend mentality, "the tremendous layoffs of educators, increased class sizes and canceled courses, combined with Corbett cutting funding to state universities by 22 percent, has "created a huge education crisis," Hanger said." wouldn't have been necessary.

As for being a member of the PUC or the state EPA, I wouldn't be bragging about being a member of either!

"Key to his education reform is his zero-tuition college plan," ----- and like every other program, with dems in control, it would be expanded until it would include 4 years at any university. And for all who take the education and move out of state, the taxpayers will pay the bill.

As for charter schools, with $700 million going to pay that bill, there must be a LOT of students getting their education this way. which means a lot of parents disgusted with the public school system. For which I can't blame them!!!!

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USABorn

Aug-28-13 5:31 AM

The federal government should get out of education and return it to state and local control.

Bill Osborn, 59, of South Williamsport, said he's concerned that many pre-schools are being closed, which he called the foundation of society. NO!!!! It's free babysetting. Another 10-20 years and babies will go from birth at the hospital to some form of government run program. Taxpayers got hung with Kindergarten with the excuse that children needed to be prepared for 1st grade. Now they want pre-school to prepare for Kindergarten! Where does it end? Dreamed up by democrats and their union cohorts for more union jobs???

I could go on and on, but suffice it to say....we don't need another spendaholic democrat running Pennsylvania!!!!

Rendell and his democrat buddies put us in the hole and Corbett has no choice but to cut corners to get us out. That's why there is no money for roads/bridges!

The only thing he said I agree with? Sell the liquor stores!!!!

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CarlHiller

Aug-28-13 6:15 AM

This guy and the Dems are not being honest on the issue of education funds. Pa is funding education with more $ than in 2007. The numbers tell a different story, what was cut was funds that were disbursed by the Feds that are no longer being received. We have more added more teachers and administrators over the years than what is needed to educate a declining student base. Take a look at the resources that are available at the State gov. Look at the enrollment rates, school employment rates and funding rates. You will find enrollment in decline, school employment on the rise and funding on the rise. The Dems are promoting a lie. The idea that education is in need of more and more funds is accepted as, as much a fact as the sun rising in the east. The diff is 1's true, 1's false. It's one thing Dems have learned very well, sell by emotion not by facts. The more spending for education myth is just that - a myth.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-28-13 6:43 AM

"Pennsylvania ranks 49th out of 50 states in job creation."

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I have a hard time believing this is true.

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rick424

Aug-28-13 7:20 AM

Apparently it is true Jerry.

Republicans are cringing because pretty much anyone can beat Corbett.

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djzlucky

Aug-28-13 8:13 AM

Jerry, the study Mr. Hanger used is from Arizona State University and does show that PA is 49th in "Total Nonfarm" job creation. If you look at "Total Private" job creation we're 47th...not much better.

Rick, I agree with you that Tommy Boy is doomed. Now is the time to start researching which of the many Democratic candidates deserve my vote.

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MarcusY

Aug-28-13 8:24 AM

LOL - It won't take much of anything for someone to do better than Corbett. He sold the state to the gas companies. He's made more money that anyone has any idea. Given it came at the expense of the commonwealth - you can't fault the guy for doing what he did. People will hate him but I think, as a multimillionaire, he can live with that. He also did all the damage he could to education. It's no wonder we're ranked so low.

All that said, I bet a Democrat does the same (in terms of a horrible job). The only difference will be which industries get what they want, how that impacts the commmonwealth in a negative way, what social services get axed so that special interests and wealthy constituents get what they want, etc.

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MarcusY

Aug-28-13 8:31 AM

On a sidenote - why does anyone believe Penn College fared so well when Penn State was taking a beating (in terms of losing their monetary allocation from the state)? Penn College kept their allocation. Might it be because Gene Yaw, formerly the College's solicitor, is very good buddies with Corbett?

Was it coincidence that Yaw's wife became the college solicitor after he left the college to be a politician?

So corrupt - all of them.

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eriklatranyi

Aug-28-13 9:25 AM

Education does not result in jobs.

Rendell spouted this nonsense when he ran for Governor and it has proven to be a total lie.

Education spending is money into the hands of the unions who give it back to Democrat candidates.

Simply put, it is money laundering from the taxpayers to the DNC.

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rick424

Aug-28-13 10:43 AM

"Education does not result in jobs."

Your kidding right? Even on the job training is education. Try getting a good paying job without a degree. Trust me you won't get far.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-28-13 11:19 AM

The GOP has complete control of state government and yet PA ranks near the bottom in job creation.

How can that be?

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JerryfromRI

Aug-28-13 11:28 AM

"The federal government should get out of education and return it to state and local control."

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Make a note on the calendar because for the first time ever, USABORN and I actually agree on something.

Please, let's get the Feds out of education. I see this as a State's right issue, plain and simple. From a fairness point of view, federal education dollars come disproportionally from blue states and go to red states. The red states don't want the Federal money, let the blue states keep it, they earned it, it's theirs.

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JerryfromRI

Aug-28-13 11:33 AM

"Education spending is money into the hands of the unions who give it back to Democrat candidates."

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Yeah, you hear this one a lot from certain people. Go have a gander at the cars in the teacher's parking lot at the school, you'll see for yourself how well the teacher's are living it up.

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rick424

Aug-28-13 11:37 AM

"The GOP has complete control of state government and yet PA ranks near the bottom in job creation."

It is all those gas industry jobs, Oh wait where are they??

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MarcusY

Aug-28-13 11:46 AM

erik clearly lacks, well, education...

Rand Paul on school choice and the importance of education in combating poverty: "And that's going to backfire on them because what they're going to discover is the Democrats want the status quo. They don't care what happens to the kids in the inner city, I truly believe that. The ticket out of the inner city, the ticket out of poverty is education. And people keep saying 'no it's poverty, you need to get rid of poverty before you can educate people.' No, you get rid of poverty by educating people"

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BornHere

Aug-28-13 2:29 PM

Hey rick..stop blaming everything on the gas industry!!

I think Corbett should be replaced because he did not do his job to bring charges against Sandusky.

Corbett should be held responsible for more children being abused during those 3 years because he did nothing to stop Sandusky, he was more concerned about his career than those children.

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Scott36

Aug-28-13 2:36 PM

Education does not result in jobs-eriklatranyi

I hesitate to ask, but Who put this ridiculous idea in your head?? Where did this "talking point" come from may be the better question.

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Capricorn1

Aug-28-13 2:48 PM

"The ticket out of the inner city, the ticket out of poverty is education." Marcus

Are you stating there is no public education in the inner cities? Or perhaps the drop out rate is so high and that's what keeps people in poverty. Public education is available to all and you get out of it what you put into it. Once again it's about personal choices and taking responsibility. Perhaps you way want to research how the illegitimacy rate in the inner cities effect the education of these children and how it effects the drop out rate. As for higher education, many need to get a high school diploma first and then maybe they will see how easy it is to get government loans and grants. Let's put the responsibility of education back on parents and students where it belongs. Dump all the money you want into it, unless you have the parents and students taking education seriously, you will continue to get the same results.

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Woolrich

Aug-28-13 3:43 PM

What a joke. Democrat trying to create jobs.......The Democrats policies is why the unemployment is so high..Listening to the Democratic party talk about job creation is like hearing Colonel Sanders tell a flock of chickens how he is so upset by the way they are being treated and wishes them a long life. After all the carnage Obama has created, Democrats can't really be that stupid can they.?????

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eriklatranyi

Aug-28-13 4:39 PM

That's right, spending on education does not result in more jobs.

You liberal boobs think you have a catchy sound-bite, but the fact is that we have been spending more and more on education since Obama took office and the unemployment rate is essentially unchanged.

Education spending does not go to teachers, it goes to administrators, and specially-created positions that add nothing to a child's education, but plenty to the unions.

Yes, teachers should be marching in the streets against their own union who spends millions supporting candidates while pensions go unfunded.

The private sector has seen through the union smokescreen and have been leaving organized labor in droves.

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MarcusY

Aug-28-13 5:22 PM

Cap - Teach is a verb. I don't mean that with hostility, just clarifying my perspective. Clearly certain academic systems are more successful than others. Unsuccessful systems, such as exist in many inner cities, are not unsuccessful because they have unintelligent or otherwise substandard students. Home is part of the puzzle for sure, but I believe it inaccurate to approach the issue as though the well is filled with wonderful water and some just aren't drinking. Great academic systems are successful despite the issues you've referenced. Personally, I believe it boils down to culture. Two schools can be equal in terms of their physical resources but the one with the healthier culture will always be more successful.

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rick424

Aug-28-13 5:38 PM

Just like republicans, they want to keep everyone uneducated so they can win votes.

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Scott36

Aug-28-13 6:08 PM

That's right, spending on education does not result in more jobs.---Erik- Typical of those I have spoken to from the right(I am sure some on the left do it too) when called on a stupid statement,(sound bite) add a word.(or delete one) In this case "spending" to change what you are being asked about. Man-up, either admit you said something stupid, or argue your original statement. I thought your side was the side of personal responsibility. Pathetic

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Scott36

Aug-28-13 6:11 PM

Just like republicans, they want to keep everyone uneducated so they can win votes.-rick424

I have felt this way for quite some time, Have a large group of uneducated, unemployed people that will scratch each others eyes out for a three dollar an hour job. The Far Right Fantasy Land.

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