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Who’s paying?

September 1, 2013

Who's paying the taxes on the rental properties, the mayor? City Council, crime watches, codes? Laws are already on the books for actions, unbecoming, unacceptable behaviors....

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nobud74

Sep-03-13 8:32 AM

mim, not hate, just tired of your incessant grousing that your tenants stick you with bills, that you have to pay so much in taxes, that codes is picking on you and on and on and on. If you are so unhappy, get out. Simple as that.

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CarlHiller

Sep-03-13 5:49 AM

Oh and as an aside, Penn College, the Health system and any other supposed non-profit should be paying real estate taxes on properties they own.

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CarlHiller

Sep-03-13 5:47 AM

Mike seems to have gone over to the "dark side". Mim - I pay a lot of taxes too, why can't I get food stamps?

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MimLogue

Sep-02-13 8:24 PM

"no bud" i said I pay a lot of taxes and I don"t even get a can of paint for it, but at least I get police protection. Why would other taxpayers pay for the pain??t I am having trouble making sense of what you say although I know it is negative and u hate me for some reason??

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nobud74

Sep-02-13 1:28 PM

Word cop, su ck it up cupcake!

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nobud74

Sep-02-13 1:27 PM

So, Mim, according to your earlier post if the taxpayers gave you a gallon of paint because you are such a wonderful landlord and pay your taxes you would be satiated. I'll pay for the darn paint. I am a landlord, I own a small business and I don't believe the taxpayer owes me diddly squat. I do these things and assume the risk/reward. I don't bellyache if things are tough. *****it up, cupcake!!!

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MimLogue

Sep-02-13 1:09 PM

I get such a kick out of Link a job is a job u do what u have to do, Paying other people s water bills that u have no control over is a problem for all landlords, paying higher taxes then any one else eg. Penn tech owns 450 million in real estate and pays no taxes no penalties for buying more and they compete with landlords in state college they have been paying an impact fee for years, but the idiots like u when someone like me brings it up I"m a greedy slumlord with no brain,

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MimLogue

Sep-02-13 1:01 PM

r miller Sorry , I said right now public opinion has "landlords as the lowest on the food chain" right next to the gang shooters of course who we rent to, By the way for the record I love being a landlord , I have 5% maybe bad experience but I am not gonna talk about the 95% good that would be boring.

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Capricorn1

Sep-02-13 12:08 PM

Yeah, OK. I propose that gas stations do background checks on people buying gas and not sell gas to those who speed, drive reckless or drive drunk. Yeah, I know it takes a little effort to do it but what the hay, it will cut down on the police work, right? -Mike

Mike, I have rented many times in different states while in the service. We always did our research regarding available schools, crime and the best neighborhoods to rent. 80% of the time, the property management companies that managed the properties, performed background checks, credit checks and contacted past rental agencies/landlords. It is just smart business and property owners should have a vested interest in protecting their investments and business. Those who don't shouldn't be in the business to begin with. If they don't want to manage their properties, then they should have a property management service do it for them. The police can't be held responsible for being everyone's private security firm.

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rmiller

Sep-02-13 12:06 PM

It goes without saying that you Mimi perhaps gained by the influx of the gas business. After all, rates for renting never raised, right? You were more than fair and have continued to be fair and keep/kept your rates competitive to LOCAL WAGES and not gas co. wages, right?

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nobud74

Sep-02-13 11:48 AM

Link, great comments.

Mim, if you hate your life and job and business so much why don't you do something else? Either you are the most altruistic person in town or you make a darn good living. Oh, and in no way shape or form are you a hero. Link nailed that!!!

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USABorn

Sep-02-13 9:27 AM

mikekerstetter is being extra think-minded today, trying to convince us with ridiculous comments.

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mikekerstetter

Sep-02-13 8:45 AM

CarlHiller-"I have stated that any responsible landlord would not rent to those with histories that show a proclivity to crime, or not paying their bills. It takes little time, effort and money to rent to responsible persons."

Yeah, OK. I propose that gas stations do background checks on people buying gas and not sell gas to those who speed, drive reckless or drive drunk. Yeah, I know it takes a little effort to do it but what the hay, it will cut down on the police work, right?

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CarlHiller

Sep-02-13 7:26 AM

And Mim, your tenants pay you rent to pay your taxes, maintenance and profit, if you are not getting that then maybe you need to find something else to do. A responsible landlord would do criminal history, credit history and check prior landlords. A responsible landlord would not rent to people who have a negative history. It is the landlords responsibility to take care of who they rent to. Renting to those who are problems shows a total disregard for the rights of all citizens in a region.

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CarlHiller

Sep-02-13 7:24 AM

"if you claim that the renter is paying the property tax on a rental property because the landlord is using the earnings off that property to pay them, you also have to realize that the same is true of your employer or the government, because that is where you are getting your earnings. It's either one way or the other, not both." So what is your point Mike? I have stated that the renters funds pay the taxes. And I do agree that the employers funds pay my taxes as part of my wages. The difference lies in that the renter is in essence the employer and the worker in essence is the landlord. So what's the prob? The whole problem lies with those landlords that rent to public nuisances and criminals. I have stated that any responsible landlord would not rent to those with histories that show a proclivity to crime, or not paying their bills. It takes little time, effort and money to rent to responsible persons.

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mikekerstetter

Sep-02-13 5:44 AM

USABorn,

It really is a simple concept. A landlord is in business to make money. The way they make money is by buying houses, (many times) fixing them up and renting them. The renter pays for the right to live in the home and use the property. It's a business. Part of the expense of any business that owns property is paying property taxes. So, yeah, the landlord taxes money out of their earnings from running that business and pays their property taxes.

If you work, your earnings come from your employer. If retired, from SS and/or pension. If you own property you pay the property taxes out of your earnings.

So, if you claim that the renter is paying the property tax on a rental property because the landlord is using the earnings off that property to pay them, you also have to realize that the same is true of your employer or the government, because that is where you are getting your earnings. It's either one way or the other, not both.

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Linhk48

Sep-02-13 12:57 AM

OOPS---that should be 'landlord' Guess I hit that 'a' by mistake

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Linhk48

Sep-02-13 12:55 AM

WOW mimlogue! It sure sounds like being a landloard, in your case, is a huge responsibility, thankless, a lot of hard work, irritating and apparently very expensive.

So, why do you do it? Why do you buy more properties instead of just getting rid of the ones you have and eliminating all the stress, expense and work that you constantly complain about??????

BTW--some definitions for you:

hero--a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities

landlord--A real estate owner who rents or leases land or a building to another party, known as a tenant

No similarities in those 2 words!

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rmiller

Sep-01-13 11:18 PM

Mimi,

I have a landlord, whose name won't be mentioned. When we moved in, the rental agreement was for him to mow the lawn, and take care of the obvious other responsibilities a landlord should do. My husband, mows the law (and it's a biggie, we buy the gas for it, my husband has spent hours landscaping the property, along with our own money, we have made physical repairs to the property, out of pocket, and general improvements that we won't take with us when we leave. You are speaking as if tenants are the lowest form of life on earth. He has not once, in three years even said, Thank you, I appreciate things you do, common courtesy. These people own several properties around this town. So, please tell me, who's picking up our trash?

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USABorn

Sep-01-13 8:29 PM

mikekerstetter - 4:17 PM "If you assert that the renter is paying the taxes because he is paying the rent on the property, you also must accept the fact that you employer is paying your taxes because that is where you are getting the money to pay them. It's a really simple concept."

A simple concept? Only in the mind of a simpleton!

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USABorn

Sep-01-13 8:25 PM

Sorry, nefore I could add my comment, the page refreshed!

Mike....That sure isn't one of the brightest things you have said lately! How you could even come up with that question based on my comment, is ludicrous!

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USABorn

Sep-01-13 8:23 PM

mikekerstetter - 4:42 AM "do you also assume that the government pays your property tax if you are retired or that your employer pays them if you are working?"

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USABorn

Sep-01-13 8:23 PM

mikekerstetter - 4:42 AM "do you also assume that the government pays your property tax if you are retired or that your employer pays them if you are working?"

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MimLogue

Sep-01-13 6:52 PM

oh yeah and dont forget the thousands in water bills we get stuck with

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MimLogue

Sep-01-13 6:50 PM

usa born I want to tell you my renters pay the rent for the privilege of having a roof and flushing toilet working heat, and plumbing nice soft carpet and a clean painted living area on top of this you want me to pay the mortgage the flood and fire insurance and then eak out the taxes too. We must be really good at what we do! thank you for pointing that out to all, Landlords are heroes, actually most small mom and pop landlords have a full time job or business which helps support their rentals

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